mickkk said:
I am disgusted with Matt White, the coward. Sitting there pretending to be clean, running a team, talking to the press, just disgraceful cowardly behavior.
This dirty rotten drug cheat has brought great shame upon Australian Cycling. I hope he is ostracised from the sport. I wouldnt spit on him if he was on fire, the dirty rotten stinking drug cheat.
Adn yet you've been here since 2009 and all silent. Why now dude?
Oh that's right, jumping on the bandwagon. So your reaction just needs to be given time to simmer. Guess USADA can be thanked for opening the eyes of many. Still there are way too many new faces around here posting who have old accounts but been eerily silent.
For what it is worth, you and other like minded people should be allowed to vent, but not paid too much attention too until you get back to planet earth. This sh1te has been obvious for a long time. Especially with the Aussies. Your reaction is really a joke...they're all doping champ. All of them. Evans, Gerrans, Rogers and Porte. Two worked with Ferrari, albeit only once with Cadel, Rogers for a long time (old news) and Gerrans use to go riding in Colorado with Lance and Levi (and we know who trained them).
So what are you going to do if the trail leads to Cadel? He's quiet because he can have his Tour win stripped. He won't say a damn thing. Nor will Rogers. Rogers talks, Sky go down. It is that simple. Rogers is part of the Sky inner sanctum and they are the four dirtiest riders ATM.
White at least isn't working for now. Can't say that about Riis can we?
@blackcat. Sure White's wife Jane Saville was for a period there one of the elite women walkers. But that was 12 years ago around Sydney. That sport is super dirty, just like all running disciplines. She needn't have gone far to get some nifty drugs. It's not coincidence that her decline coincided around when White left USPS and also his ability took a nose dive. Not that he was clean at Cofidis.
As for Gainsford Taylor. Was a member of Parliament, in the Legislative Assembly in Victoria, her home state. That's no small thing. It is big. Very big. She created controversy for being the first female to breastfeed in session. Her PB in the 100m is 11.12 sec. The current Aussie champ Melissa Breen struggles to make 11.3 sec and her PB is either 11.27 or 11.28 sec. Gainsford Taylor is right on the cusp of what I think is the maximal time a clean and uber gifted runner can make (11.1 BTW and for men 9.9). Now contrast with the Jamaicans and Americans from this year. Particularly Carmelita Jeter. Back in 2003-2004 her PB was barely over 11.5 sec. In one season, after a massive physical transformation, she shaved half a second off and this year she ran sub 10.8. Contrast Gainsford Taylors 200m PB with Alyson Felix this years fastest runner. Felix has a PB of 21.69 sec and ran 21.88 in the Olympic final for Gold. Gainsford Taylors best was 22.23, meaning she'd have made fourth at the Olympics this year on that time. Note Felix was the only woman to crack 22 seconds this year at a major meet. Now to contrast with a legendary Aussie runner Betty Cuthbert. Olympic Gold in Melbourne and PB's of 11.4 and 23.2 respectively for the 100m and 200m.
So was Gainsford Taylor dirty? Probably, but nothing like the Jamaicans now are doing and were doing, let alone what the Americans have done and still are doing. Gainsford Taylor physique wise was always really solid, so there is that and she doesn't have an iota of the technique and form let alone natural build the current Aussie champ has and Breen is much slower. So yeah, you have a point. Hackett? Bahahaha. Don't make me laugh. If he didn't leave Dennis Cottrell he'd have 3 gold medals for the 1500m. He was defending the Chinese 400IM girl on tv FFS. Was really, really painful to listen to. Nice guy but I have no doubt he wishes no doping questions or talk is EVER mentioned by anyone. And I know why.
On this note, ASADA needs to start getting their act together. Maybe if we clean up house, the Brits will be forced to and we all know they are the dirtiest English speaking nation at the moment. If Matt White were Danish he'd have no explaining to do. Perhaps also if he were Dutch or Belgian. I'm going to go see what SBS are saying on Cycling Central. They better be talking...they were dead silent in August. Matt White is tame. Someone should really be onto Rogers, heck even Scott Sunderland. He has a lot to answer for. Someone should definitely bring Del Moral up. This whole business with USADA and now White makes JV and Garmin appear to be squeaky clean (they aren't) and I have a problem with that. The 'Pro cycling is now Clean' card keeps getting used. Worse, by the dodgy questionable tools like Brailsford...not good. I'll give it time though. Some journalists are waking up
Maybe he had different expectations. Maybe there were different expectations of him. Maybe he had a different support structure over in Europe. Maybe he was on different teams.
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