Teams & Riders Matteo Jorgenson and his inexorable rise to the top

[jmdirt]

Do you have a source for that? Is there a report for that?

Well, I read it in several places, and HE said it in an interview.

 

[danielzu]

A chance he goes in the breakaway tomorrow and goes for the stage? He should have rested today

 

[jmdirt]

GREAT work today MJ!

 

[AmRacer]

Why didn't you help Wout win Olympic gold? 🙃

 

[Oldman]

Why didn't you help Wout win Olympic gold? 🙃

How would he accomplish more than being vital in pursuing Remco? He could serve his country and team interests both if Wout was there, right? Wout was a bit behind and LaPorte got the bronze. Seems like the effort he put into this Tour played largely both on Jonas getting 2nd in GC and Wout's win today.

 

[Oldman]

A chance he goes in the breakaway tomorrow and goes for the stage? He should have rested today

Very close prognostication and he was vital in Wout's win.

 

[Juan Pelota]

Procyclingstats has him going to the Vuelta....WHOA BABY

 

[theyoungest]

Procyclingstats has him going to the Vuelta....WHOA BABY

Matteo Jorgenson has himself going to the Vuelta, maybe that's a more credible source than PCS.

 

[Lequack]

Fans: "You're that American at Visma right?"

 

[CyclistAbi]

He got a Kuss.

 

[Oldman]

Haven't heard much from the bashers that are hoping Mateo would suck this Vuelta. Seemed pretty healthy today with serious riders sitting in his wake. Jonas liked the easy day, too.

 

[Extinction]

Haven't heard much from the bashers that are hoping Mateo would suck this Vuelta. Seemed pretty healthy today with serious riders sitting in his wake. Jonas liked the easy day, too.

Yea, Matteo looks like he has bounced back from a lackluster Tour and looks poised to be the Tour 23 Kuss for Vingegaard in this race.

 

[Sciatic]

Yea, Matteo looks like he has bounced back from a lackluster Tour and looks poised to be the Tour 23 Kuss for Vingegaard in this race.

Yup, he could end up being an outside contender for the 3rd podium spot, though it will depend on how Visma decide to ride the mountain stages this weekend.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Yea, Matteo looks like he has bounced back from a lackluster Tour and looks poised to be the Tour 23 Kuss for Vingegaard in this race.

Vingo will make sure Kuss' situation doesn't repeat this time. He won't allow his American friends in any breakaway!

 

[Extinction]

Vingo will make sure Kuss' situation doesn't repeat this time. He won't allow his American friends in any breakaway!

No, I meant Kuss helping Vingo to beat Pogi at the 23 Tour, not Kuss slipping away in a break of the 23 Vuelta.

 

[Red Rick]

Jorgenson should go in the break today. But he probably won't.

 

[Netserk]

Jorgenson should go in the break today. But he probably won't.

But I can see him go on Vivero. Kuss is still useful for infiltrating dangerous breaks.

 

[P4rthen0n]

Haven't heard much from the bashers that are hoping Mateo would suck this Vuelta. Seemed pretty healthy today with serious riders sitting in his wake. Jonas liked the easy day, too.

Jorgensen is a great rider and a super domestique.
What he did in the 2024 Tour was amazing.
In this year's Tour he started strong but then got sick midway.

He's been great in this Vuelta. Visma could try to send him up the road to put some pressure on Almeida and Pidcock.
If neither of them follows, then Vingegaard could bridge to him.

 

[Oldman]

Jorgensen is a great rider and a super domestique.
What he did in the 2024 Tour was amazing.
In this year's Tour he started strong but then got sick midway.

He's been great in this Vuelta. Visma could try to send him up the road to put some pressure on Almeida and Pidcock.
If neither of them follows, then Vingegaard could bridge to him.

Today's stage showed the friskiness of the top ten competitors. IMO JV can't really do this until the last week with a little more buffer for Jonas. This is a typically weird Vuelta and they will/should keep a full wrap of support around the GC leader. If they don't win it'll be catastrophic for management as much as the riders.

 

[theyoungest]

Today's stage showed the friskiness of the top ten competitors. IMO JV can't really do this until the last week with a little more buffer for Jonas. This is a typically weird Vuelta and they will/should keep a full wrap of support around the GC leader. If they don't win it'll be catastrophic for management as much as the riders.

Catastrophic? They're riding as a team, by far the strongest team in the race, to support their leader. It's UAE who should really be scratching their heads if it turns out at the end they've lost the race by a few seconds, and think if maybe at some point they could have done a little more to support Almeida.

 

[Oldman]

Catastrophic? They're riding as a team, by far the strongest team in the race, to support their leader. It's UAE who should really be scratching their heads if it turns out at the end they've lost the race by a few seconds, and think if maybe at some point they could have done a little more to support Almeida.

You're correct, they are and much smarter than LeTour. My point is there is are no guarantees against mechanicals, crashes, etc that could have Jonas standing on the side of the road.

I was responding to P4thenOn's strategy:
He's been great in this Vuelta. Visma could try to send him up the road to put some pressure on Almeida and Pidcock.
If neither of them follows, then Vingegaard could bridge to him.

I'd love to see that happen but understand why JV wouldn't attempt it this early. Jonas' needs a bigger GC gap to attempt it IMO. After the Tour they can't afford an embarrassing strategic error.

 

[Peyroteo94]

You're correct, they are and much smarter than LeTour. My point is there is are no guarantees against mechanicals, crashes, etc that could have Jonas standing on the side of the road.

I was responding to P4thenOn's strategy:
He's been great in this Vuelta. Visma could try to send him up the road to put some pressure on Almeida and Pidcock.
If neither of them follows, then Vingegaard could bridge to him.

I'd love to see that happen but understand why JV wouldn't attempt it this early. Jonas' needs a bigger GC gap to attempt it IMO. After the Tour they can't afford an embarrassing strategic error.

They are not racing smarter. Why do you think that?

 

[Oldman]

They are not racing smarter. Why do you think that?

They've let other teams wear themselves out instead of full on bludgeoning of the field at every moment; then losing the sprints. The Tour was a bad idea, repeated daily.

 

[Red Rick]

Terrible performance today.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Terrible performance today.

A bit too steep for a rider of his stature.