Member Suspension Appreciation/Depreciation Thread

[pmcg76]

Then have a sit down (electronically) with Daniel and change the rules some more. The incredibly simple reason that this forum has reached the current state of play is that the most disruptive influences, the ones who have repeatedly attracted bans for all the reasons that come under the heading 'being disruptive to the smooth running of the forum', have been allowed back time after time to continue their disruption. Once someone has been banned for several limited periods, and then continues the behavior for which they were banned in the first place, it's time to wave them goodbye permanently.

I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone in particular, just a general observation based on my broad and long experience of forums.

P.S. Daniel - Closing the only topic where members can express their views and/or frustrations is a VERY BAD idea. The answer is to police it better, not to make it unavailable. Sending emails about the forum to someone who is as busy as you are with other things, is not any kind of way forward, and will only lead to further frustration, aggravation, and loss of membership.

This x 1000

 

[Afrank]

P.S. Daniel - Closing the only topic where members can express their views and/or frustrations is a VERY BAD idea. The answer is to police it better, not to make it unavailable. Sending emails about the forum to someone who is as busy as you are with other things, is not any kind of way forward, and will only lead to further frustration, aggravation, and loss of membership.

+1000, re-open the moderators thread! I can't believe we even have to ask for it to be opened again. IMHO a very bad decision to leaved it closed. Plus leaving it closed could result in losing intelligent members of the forum. I suspect we may have already lost BroDeal.

 

[Christian]

I just realized ebandit's gone too (not banned though) - granted it took me a while to notice but still too bad .......

same goes for palmerq who was my favourite mod :S

 

[darwin553]

P.S. Daniel - Closing the only topic where members can express their views and/or frustrations is a VERY BAD idea. The answer is to police it better, not to make it unavailable. Sending emails about the forum to someone who is as busy as you are with other things, is not any kind of way forward, and will only lead to further frustration, aggravation, and loss of membership.

Yes, yes, yes - just because you may think it is an inconvenience to the moderators to have to respond to the members' grievances doesn't mean it isn't a necessary aspect of a forum which ought to appear accountable and transparent for its administrative decisions.

 

[mewmewmew13]

it's closed?

...am not surprised

 

[pedaling squares]

Yes, yes, yes - just because you may think it is an inconvenience to the moderators to have to respond to the members' grievances doesn't mean it isn't a necessary aspect of a forum which ought to appear accountable and transparent for its administrative decisions.

That thread was actually helpful for the moderators who worked here about a year or so ago. The ones who allowed discussion and critique and could even, God forbid, admit that a decision wasn't perhaps the best option. Too many of the current crop used the thread to discuss at a level of "Did not." "Did too." and "I know you are, but what am I?", then ran to the CN/FP staff when they got too much stick from the great unwashed. I guess it worked. No more discussion must mean no more problems.

 

[Hugh Januss]

They have got it to where they like it. No complaints means no problems.

 

[sittingbison]

I just realized ebandit's gone too (not banned though) - granted it took me a while to notice but still too bad .......

ebandit has been reading the clinic and active as of today, but it looks like he has not posted since July

cheers
bison

 

[sittingbison]

They have got it to where they like it. No complaints means no problems.

not quite correct....where we like it is no problems means no complaints

 

[ChrisE]

not quite correct....where we like it is no problems means no complaints

Yeah, I am sure Benson is right on those PMs in his inbox asking WTF happened to deleted posts, etc. MI and I were having a discussion about witnesses to LA doping on the LA thread, and my last reply got deleted and perhaps others that replied to me. There was nothing out of bounds about this line of discussion, and there were no rules being violated by MI or me at least. It was a respectful discussion.

No, I didn't send him a PM complaining because this is all BS. Nothing will happen, and we are not so stupid to believe what you wrote (which is impossible with the current wad of mods) as opposed to what HJ wrote. HJ hit the nail on the head. At least with the mod thread we could complain and at least have a public forum to highlight actions such as this, and perhaps show the mods a different POV. Now it just goes into Dan's rabbit hole and the mods run amok with zero accountability.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Just wanted to complain about people complaining about complaints.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

who has the best ban ratio? bpc??? or for that matter infraction

 

[hrotha]

It's hilarious how The Hog always walks away with a slap on the wrist.

 

[Netserk]

It's hilarious how The Hog always walks away with a slap on the wrist.

He was recently banned for a month...

 

[pmcg76]

He was recently banned for a month...

How many times in total now whilst others are banned for good first time out

 

[Netserk]

How many non-sockpuppets are 'banned for good first time out'?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

How many non-sockpuppets are 'banned for good first time out'?

We (the other members) have no idea.

But Ianfra has been perma banned - airstream, perma banned, Dr. Lexus, perma banned - were all these running sock puppets??

 

[pmcg76]

How many non-sockpuppets are 'banned for good first time out'?

Nice deflection. A certain poster has now been banned 4 times in just over 3 months, considering one of those was a month ban, that's an impressive record. 6 times this year altogether and Gods knows how many times in total.

 

[Eshnar]

We (the other members) have no idea.

But Ianfra has been perma banned - airstream, perma banned, Dr. Lexus, perma banned - were all these running sock puppets??

not the first time they were banned, was it?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

not the first time they were banned, was it?

I was asking a question.

So, the answer is......

 

[Eshnar]

I was asking a question.

So, the answer is......

the answer is no, as you could have easily seen by checking the reason why they were banned.

edit: Now that you mention it Airstream did return as a sockpuppet though.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

the answer is no, as you could have easily seen by checking the reason why they were banned.

edit: Now that you mention it Airstream did return as a sockpuppet though.

Hold on.

I DID check - here is the reason for Ianfra:
"ianfra is perma banninated for trolling and baiting....after countless discussion and warnings to desist."

Nothing about being banned before.

Here is the reason for Dr_Lexus:
"Dr_Lexus is banned for trolling"

Again nothing about being banned before.

 

[gooner]

the answer is no, as you could have easily seen by checking the reason why they were banned.

edit: Now that you mention it Airstream did return as a sockpuppet though.

There was no length given for the ban he was serving at the time. Myself and Christian asked about this and got no answer from the mods. That's why he returned as a sockpuppet.

 

[the sceptic]

Nice deflection. A certain poster has now been banned 4 times in just over 3 months, considering one of those was a month ban, that's an impressive record. 6 times this year altogether and Gods knows how many times in total.

Im sure most of those bans were a result of a certain poster and a certain poster complaining to the mods about every single little thing that is against The Rules.

And besides, certain other posters deserved the ban just as much after ruining a certain thread but somehow it is only a certain poster that gets banned.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Im sure most of those bans were a result of a certain poster and a certain poster complaining to the mods about every single little thing that is against The Rules.

And besides, certain other posters deserved the ban just as much after ruining a certain thread but somehow it is only a certain poster that gets banned.

MV? I doubt it, as it took the mods a long while before arriving on scene.
Also, MV recently made a plea (quite correctly) to the mods about a post - a mod eventually arrived and took decisive acton......
by deleting MVs post and leaving the offending post in place

And I did not complain or report a post - indeed The Hog said they had reported one of mine (don't worry,I didn't believe him either).

And when you say people "ruined a thread" - it was not posted on in almost a week, very obvious what was being done.