Men Elite Road Race - UCI RWC Doha 2016

[HelloDolly]

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another "Phinney fail" title page article in 3...2...1

Geez the guy still has damage to leg after what would have been for anyone else a career ending crash..

Kind of weak field

So who exactly was missing given Cancelera and Wiggin have retired ? All the other top TTers were there


As for it being late in the season and effecting top TTers ...its late in the season for everyone in the race

There are some negative sour grape comments on here

 

[glassmoon]

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another "Phinney fail" title page article in 3...2...1

Geez the guy still has damage to leg after what would have been for anyone else a career ending crash..

There are some negative sour grape comments on here

it wasn't meant against him, it was about the constant unfounded front-page press coverage

 

[Valv.Piti]

Froome and Canc missed (arguably top-5 time trialists) and Dumoulin was completely exhausted. I think its safe to say the field was pretty weak in this one..

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Froome and Canc missed (arguably top-5 time trialists) and Dumoulin was completely exhausted. I think its safe to say the field was pretty weak in this one..

Cancellara is retired. The only really high end TTers missing, as far as I can recall, were Froome and Malori. This is basically as good as TT fields can currently get.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Froome and Canc missed (arguably top-5 time trialists) and Dumoulin was completely exhausted. I think its safe to say the field was pretty weak in this one..

Cancellara is retired. The only really high end TTers missing, as far as I can recall, were Froome and Malori. This is basically as good as TT fields can currently get.

I know Canc is retired, but compared to the Olympic TT-field, I think this was semi lacklustre.

 

[DNP-Old]

Molano's time to shine tomorrow. He has great form. Won basically every sprint in Clasico RCN not too long ago, beat Lobato in Madrid in rather easy fashion in one of his not so many showings in Europe.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Some were already in Holiday mood. Some were overcooked due to long season. Some clearly were bad in the heat. which is probably why the result but this was a most complete field for a TT except for Froome.

 

[This Charming Man]

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There's no way they can do this at 260km after watching the women's TTT. It would be absurd. Insane heat with no respite sections, dry heat, no moisture. No fans, no racing. I'm pretty angry about it, having seen it. You had Mieke Kröger, who in most circumstances is a TT machine, just hit the wall and have to be helped out before she collapsed. You had two Twenty16 riders implode in the final kilometre. You had riders vomiting everywhere, and worst of all, Anouska Koster clearly passed out from heat exhaustion on the bike and veered into a wall, having a horrible crash where she landed on her face, since unlike Kröger the team only had four riders left and she couldn't let go. The team and the medics, rightly, wouldn't let her get back on the bike, but should never have been allowed to get to that stage. To be doing this at 7 hours, the pace would have to be so relaxed at the start to make it doable that it would be an almost unwatchably dull spectacle.

Tourof California stage, have you been to this place?After 3 cooking hot days. check from 118 on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBeorRYjJYE


i don't agree
with this temperature, it won't be any problem

i love the women cycling but sadly you could see many were not prepared (possibly medically) for such conditions. there were no problems at all in the men's race. it''s hot but not hotter than a stage in malaga or in the pyrenees.


what it's absolutely disgusting (almost criminal) is to not have ambulances ready at the finish.

The Men's race was also later on, so when the bigger teams were going the conditions were less excessive. They won't be able to race a 7hr 260km race without it going into the hottest parts of the day - the women were starting at 14:10 local time, so not exactly the midday sun either. Are they planning to have the men finish on Sunday at 9pm local time or something?

We do get this kind of heat in the Volta and some of the Vuelta's southern stages too, but it's also not that dissimilar from that Tour of California stage a couple of years ago when riders were collapsing. As has been pointed out the type of heat is different, but in addition to this, a lack of moisture or wind because of today's weather also exacerbated matters.

I guess no one at UCI will do anything till riders have a serious mishap or worse

Luckily, though she's pretty banged up, Anouska Koster didn't suffer any major injuries from this. But it could very easily have been a serious mishap. The lack of medical provisions from the organizers is absolutely ridiculous, though.

 

[RedheadDane]

So, Dumoulin thinks the races should have been held in the evening (or at least into the evening). Makes sense to me; not only would it probably be cooler then, it might also mean more spectators. It's possible the lack of spectators - at least in part - is due to the locals being smart enough to not go outside when the temperatures are at the hottest.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Froome and Canc missed (arguably top-5 time trialists) and Dumoulin was completely exhausted. I think its safe to say the field was pretty weak in this one..

Cancellara is retired. The only really high end TTers missing, as far as I can recall, were Froome and Malori. This is basically as good as TT fields can currently get.

Isn't he scheduled to ride Japan Cup? Says so on PCS. I would guess technically he hasn't retired yet. So he was indeed missing.

 

[Kwibus]

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So, Dumoulin thinks the races should have been held in the evening (or at least into the evening). Makes sense to me; not only would it probably be cooler then, it might also mean more spectators. It's possible the lack of spectators - at least in part - is due to the locals being smart enough to not go outside when the temperatures are at the hottest.

I doubt locals will come oout and watch this, racing in the evening is very logical indeed. Weird that its just the first time someone mentioned it.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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So, Dumoulin thinks the races should have been held in the evening (or at least into the evening). Makes sense to me; not only would it probably be cooler then, it might also mean more spectators. It's possible the lack of spectators - at least in part - is due to the locals being smart enough to not go outside when the temperatures are at the hottest.

Well, that's up to the fan. Someone should interview him.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

I don't think it has been mentioned here: Martin solo would have ended 9th in the TTT, beating 9 of the teams competing!

 

[boasson]

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So, Dumoulin thinks the races should have been held in the evening (or at least into the evening). Makes sense to me; not only would it probably be cooler then, it might also mean more spectators. It's possible the lack of spectators - at least in part - is due to the locals being smart enough to not go outside when the temperatures are at the hottest.

Well, that's up to the fan. Someone should interview him.

If Dumo would have won this, he would say: its no problem with the heat, no problem with the country and the spectators. So now he is pissed of because he have won nothing this year. No olympic Gold, no medal at the WC, no podium at the GTs and no podiums at any other WT race.

It's every time the same.If you lose you're complaining about everything. The motos in front of the other riders, the dangerous parcours, the heat, the spectators,...

 

[DNP-Old]

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So, Dumoulin thinks the races should have been held in the evening (or at least into the evening). Makes sense to me; not only would it probably be cooler then, it might also mean more spectators. It's possible the lack of spectators - at least in part - is due to the locals being smart enough to not go outside when the temperatures are at the hottest.

Well, that's up to the fan. Someone should interview him.

If Dumo would have won this, he would say: its no problem with the heat, no problem with the country and the spectators. So now he is pissed of because he have won nothing this year. No olympic Gold, no medal at the WC, no podium at the GTs and no podiums at any other WT race.

It's every time the same.If you lose you're complaining about everything. The motos in front of the other riders, the dangerous parcours, the heat, the spectators,...

Dumoulin had complained about Qatar weeks before the time trial was even a thing, so this isn't true at all.

 

[gerundium]

dutch commentators said mullen was overtrained this season and is now getting it all back together. anyone know if this is correct? Then you can count on him having a good season next year i think.

 

[Popchu]

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So, Dumoulin thinks the races should have been held in the evening (or at least into the evening). Makes sense to me; not only would it probably be cooler then, it might also mean more spectators. It's possible the lack of spectators - at least in part - is due to the locals being smart enough to not go outside when the temperatures are at the hottest.

Well, that's up to the fan. Someone should interview him.

If Dumo would have won this, he would say: its no problem with the heat, no problem with the country and the spectators. So now he is pissed of because he have won nothing this year. No olympic Gold, no medal at the WC, no podium at the GTs and no podiums at any other WT race.

It's every time the same.If you lose you're complaining about everything. The motos in front of the other riders, the dangerous parcours, the heat, the spectators,...

Dumoulin had complained about Qatar weeks before the time trial was even a thing, so this isn't true at all.

Yes, this is true. Dumoulin is someone who complains a lot, which is not necessary negative because most of the times he's got a point. This has nothing to do with winning or not, he is always honest about his own performances.

 

[DNP-Old]

Livestream of UCI Channel not available in Spain. Does anyone have an alternative for me?

 

[DNP-Old]

Never mind, it's on TVE.

 

[Echoes]

good news of Jasper Philipsen in the Belang van Limburg

As soon as the body starts thrilling, you should stop right away.

I feel a whole lot better and the doctor is caring for everything. My eyes are still a bit red. If it were irresponsible to stat next Friday, I wouldn't do it. My health is above everthing.

About being back on his bike:

Just a little on the rollers under the airco. Riding on the outside wouldn't be wise for me. I just let the muscle warm up. Despite the circumstances, the legs were turning rather loosely again. In my opinion I'll be okay for next Friday. It'll be important not to make the same mistake as during the ITT in which I totaly blew myself up. And if it's a failure again I certainly won't take it so far again. As soon as the body starts thrilling, you should stop right away.

Carlo Bomans from the Belgian Fed had called Jasper's parents in order to reassure them before it was on the news. They appreciated it.

 

[RedheadDane]

So... how do you pronounce that Iranian guy's name?
Not that Gebrezgahibier is much easier.

 

[Monte]

Halvorsen easy win U23

 

[DNP-Old]

That was one of the most boring races ever.

 

[Monte]

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That was one of the most boring races ever.

I dont expect anything more for Sundays race.. But the positive is that its gonna be a pretty good fair sprint. After seeing this i think Kittel or Cav wins..

 

[Escarabajo]

I saw the TT race last night. Martin was impressive. I am glad that he is back to winning.

I also noticed almost nobody on the streets. Maybe the heat. Or maybe they don't care. Either reason begs the question why they did it in this place.

As far as a weak field for the TT, this is not the first time in which this argument is not use for any of the important races. It sounds like an excuse. Besides have somebody remember a time when all (100%) potential contenders for any race are on top form fighting for the win? I don't remember.