Men Elite Road Race - UCI RWC Doha 2016

[Pippo_San]

Also how about the double second place of the year for Cav after the Omnium in Rio? BIG LOL

 

[Durden93]

Great win by Sagan! I would've loved to see an attack by EBH, Hayman, and a Belgian. I know that Boonen was third but if I'm any of those riders/teams I wouldn't have trusted my sprint against Cav/Sagan.

 

[BigMac]

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Causally forget about Merckx, de Vlaeminck, Coppi, Kelly...

What makes you think I forgot about any of them? I carefully chose my words there.

Because Sagan will not win 11 Grand Tours, 19 monuments and 4 WCs in his career. Probably the last one actually. But he needs another eighteen monuments in ten years to match Merckx.

Different eras tho. Some relativity applies, you can't only take stats into account.

Let's not forget Sagan has only won one monument in his whole career and obviously has never come anywhere near winning a GT. He's a superb rider, but any talk of greatest of all time is ridiculously premature.

Again:

*near-legend*

*I'm*

*confident*

Future implied. Expectations and hope.

 

[Craigee]

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Am I missing something? Sagan looked faster than Cav.

that's what I think too but British commentators are 100% sure that Cav would have won. Rubbish.

 

[Singer01]

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Best rider of his generation, a near-legend. I'm confident that by the end of his career I'l be able to say he was the best cyclist ever.

Causally forget about Merckx, de Vlaeminck, Coppi, Kelly...

What makes you think I forgot about any of them? I carefully chose my words there.

Because Sagan will not win 11 Grand Tours, 19 monuments and 4 WCs in his career. Probably the last one actually. But he needs another eighteen monuments in ten years to match Merckx.

Different eras tho. Some relativity applies, you can't only take stats into account.

Different eras is what anyone says when the stats don't back up their argument. At the same age as Sagan is now EM had 2 World Championships, 5 Grand Tours and 10 Monuments. Though i imagine Sagan will have a longer career at the top.

 

[saganftw]

belgians made a mistake of going for sprint imho

if you have 6 riders in the leading group without great sprinter why would you try to go for sprint?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Bring on the
podium
sheiks

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Also how about the double second place of the year for Cav after the Omnium in Rio? BIG LOL

Disappointing for him, but still a world champion on the track this year and finally won a yellow jersey in the Tour and 4 stages, Not a bad year.

 

[The Badger]

So Belgium had six riders in the front group and decided to ride for podium with Boonen. Bah

 

[Flamin]

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Belgian riders and commentators and experts all very proud of riding to their own execution together

***. Planckaert just said they made a tactical mistake in the final 5k. Bit butthurt that the Belgians singlehandedly prevented a Dutch WC I guess.

 

[Durden93]

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Belgian riders and commentators and experts all very proud of riding to their own execution together

I presume by "their own execution" you mean that they killed their chances rather than they worked well together (ie executed a plan)?

 

[Red Rick]

First WC podium with all former champions?

 

[TMP402]

According to David Millar, Cavendish crashed a few days ago was in hospital, and is missing skin on his back and leg.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Come on, no is doing it anymore? Jesus, guess it's up to me

LS WHERE ARE YOU???? WHY DO YOU HATE SAGAN?

Really?

I've literally watched two races he's been involved in this year. Literally. It's apparently never boring to add more sycophancy to the Sagan bandwagon, but it's apparently boring to hear any opinion that isn't gushing in praise, and because I find him so objectionable I can't help myself getting wound up by it, and because I get wound up by it so easily people keep poking the bear, to prevent all of the Sagan Defandboys from throwing a strop at me every time I say anything remotely negative about Slovak Barbosa, I've just taken to avoiding him all out.

Sometimes you just get a sense something is going to happen. At the Ronde I was so angry about Lizzie beating Emma J at the end that I just knew it meant Sagan would win, and I would lose my rag and probably get myself banned. So I didn't watch the Ronde van Vlaanderen. I got that same feeling today. This World Championships has been such a shower of garbage from start to finish that as soon as the riders who made the selection were announced on social media, I just had that sense he was going to win, so I didn't watch, so as not to repeat the Richmond go-around. I don't recant anything I said then, nor do I have any intention of apologizing to any of the people I insulted simply by proxy of liking or defending Sagan. But while "Sagan is amazing", "Sagan is a beast" and "Sagan is the best thing to happen since the invention of the bicycle and a model human being omgyea!" can apparently never be heard enough, I've been told often enough that voicing my contrary opinion is boring, so to stop myself from throwing those same tantrums as I did last year I've been steering clear of him as much as possible. Doha got the World Championships based on vulgar, opulent excess, so he's the perfect winner for them, when you think about it.

 

[portugal11]

I just love this race (despite the horrible route)!!! I was able to see kittel angry (made my day) and a tremendous victory for sagan against the pure sprinters.

 

[Tank Engine]

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great Sagan!!..
Cavs had to pause in the sprint... but followed the right wheel of Sagan...

He had to pause, because he followed the wrong wheel. For once Sagan's wheel was not the right one, he should have followed Blythe.

 

[TMP402]

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Also how about the double second place of the year for Cav after the Omnium in Rio? BIG LOL

But before that he became a World Champion on the track (again) earlier this year.

 

[Pippo_San]

Re: Re:

Also how about the double second place of the year for Cav after the Omnium in Rio? BIG LOL

Disappointing for him, but still a world champion on the track this year and finally won a yellow jersey in the Tour and 4 stages, Not a bad year.

I'd say one of his best years, somehow probably the best all around.
And people saying he was done for.
One of the best pure sprinter ever.

 

[Billie]

When was the last time that all 3 riders on the podium had already been World Champ?

 

[Red Rick]

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Belgian riders and commentators and experts all very proud of riding to their own execution together

******. Planckaert just said they made a tactical mistake in the final 5k. Bit butthurt that the Belgians singlehandedly prevented a Dutch WC I guess.

You know what they did well?
Split the peloton in the desert

You know what they did wrong
They rode for a sprint of a guy who hasn't won a bunch sprint in ages, against a guy's that are just faster no matter how the race went. They couldn't seriously have thought Boonen would beat Sagan? Beat Cavendish after he only sat on wheels for 250km? Sure.

They had 6 guys in the group of 26 riders, and they still only rode for a medal.

Ofcourse I'm butthurt.

That does not mean I'm wrong.

 

[infeXio]

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Come on, no is doing it anymore? Jesus, guess it's up to me

LS WHERE ARE YOU???? WHY DO YOU HATE SAGAN?

Really?

I've literally watched two races he's been involved in this year. Literally. It's apparently never boring to add more sycophancy to the Sagan bandwagon, but it's apparently boring to hear any opinion that isn't gushing in praise, and because I find him so objectionable I can't help myself getting wound up by it, and because I get wound up by it so easily people keep poking the bear, to prevent all of the Sagan Defandboys from throwing a strop at me every time I say anything remotely negative about Slovak Barbosa, I've just taken to avoiding him all out.

Sometimes you just get a sense something is going to happen. At the Ronde I was so angry about Lizzie beating Emma J at the end that I just knew it meant Sagan would win, and I would lose my rag and probably get myself banned. So I didn't watch the Ronde van Vlaanderen. I got that same feeling today. This World Championships has been such a shower of garbage from start to finish that as soon as the riders who made the selection were announced on social media, I just had that sense he was going to win, so I didn't watch, so as not to repeat the Richmond go-around. I don't recant anything I said then, nor do I have any intention of apologizing to any of the people I insulted simply by proxy of liking or defending Sagan. But while "Sagan is amazing", "Sagan is a beast" and "Sagan is the best thing to happen since the invention of the bicycle and a model human being omgyea!" can apparently never be heard enough, I've been told often enough that voicing my contrary opinion is boring, so to stop myself from throwing those same tantrums as I did last year I've been steering clear of him as much as possible. Doha got the World Championships based on vulgar, opulent excess, so he's the perfect winner for them, when you think about it.

I don't even know why you dignify it with a response anymore..

 

[Craigee]

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According to David Millar, Cavendish crashed a few days ago was in hospital, and is missing skin on his back and leg.

More TUE's?

 

[BigMac]

Re: Re:

Come on, no is doing it anymore? Jesus, guess it's up to me

LS WHERE ARE YOU???? WHY DO YOU HATE SAGAN?

Really?

I've literally watched two races he's been involved in this year. Literally. It's apparently never boring to add more sycophancy to the Sagan bandwagon, but it's apparently boring to hear any opinion that isn't gushing in praise, and because I find him so objectionable I can't help myself getting wound up by it, and because I get wound up by it so easily people keep poking the bear, to prevent all of the Sagan Defandboys from throwing a strop at me every time I say anything remotely negative about Slovak Barbosa, I've just taken to avoiding him all out.

Sometimes you just get a sense something is going to happen. At the Ronde I was so angry about Lizzie beating Emma J at the end that I just knew it meant Sagan would win, and I would lose my rag and probably get myself banned. So I didn't watch the Ronde van Vlaanderen. I got that same feeling today. This World Championships has been such a shower of garbage from start to finish that as soon as the riders who made the selection were announced on social media, I just had that sense he was going to win, so I didn't watch, so as not to repeat the Richmond go-around. I don't recant anything I said then, nor do I have any intention of apologizing to any of the people I insulted simply by proxy of liking or defending Sagan. But while "Sagan is amazing", "Sagan is a beast" and "Sagan is the best thing to happen since the invention of the bicycle and a model human being omgyea!" can apparently never be heard enough, I've been told often enough that voicing my contrary opinion is boring, so to stop myself from throwing those same tantrums as I did last year I've been steering clear of him as much as possible. Doha got the World Championships based on vulgar, opulent excess, so he's the perfect winner for them, when you think about it.

Stick-out-tongue.

Believe me, most people respect your opinion.

 

[Billie]

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According to David Millar, Cavendish crashed a few days ago was in hospital, and is missing skin on his back and leg.

yes looked like he was telling that to Sagan and Boonen there right before the podium ceremony.

 

[Miburo]

Re: Re:

Come on, no is doing it anymore? Jesus, guess it's up to me

LS WHERE ARE YOU???? WHY DO YOU HATE SAGAN?

Really?

I've literally watched two races he's been involved in this year. Literally. It's apparently never boring to add more sycophancy to the Sagan bandwagon, but it's apparently boring to hear any opinion that isn't gushing in praise, and because I find him so objectionable I can't help myself getting wound up by it, and because I get wound up by it so easily people keep poking the bear, to prevent all of the Sagan Defandboys from throwing a strop at me every time I say anything remotely negative about Slovak Barbosa, I've just taken to avoiding him all out.

Sometimes you just get a sense something is going to happen. At the Ronde I was so angry about Lizzie beating Emma J at the end that I just knew it meant Sagan would win, and I would lose my rag and probably get myself banned. So I didn't watch the Ronde van Vlaanderen. I got that same feeling today. This World Championships has been such a shower of garbage from start to finish that as soon as the riders who made the selection were announced on social media, I just had that sense he was going to win, so I didn't watch, so as not to repeat the Richmond go-around. I don't recant anything I said then, nor do I have any intention of apologizing to any of the people I insulted simply by proxy of liking or defending Sagan. But while "Sagan is amazing", "Sagan is a beast" and "Sagan is the best thing to happen since the invention of the bicycle and a model human being omgyea!" can apparently never be heard enough, I've been told often enough that voicing my contrary opinion is boring, so to stop myself from throwing those same tantrums as I did last year I've been steering clear of him as much as possible. Doha got the World Championships based on vulgar, opulent excess, so he's the perfect winner for them, when you think about it.

I was just trolling man, you can have your opinion