Michael Barry

[Dazed and Confused]

I would recommend morphine, IV style but only if the nurse is sexy.

 

[D-Queued]

I would recommend morphine, IV style but only if the nurse is sexy.

Looks great. Sounds great.

Right up until she tells you to drop trou, because this is a direct testicular injection.

That's what you ordered? Right?

Dave.

 

[Hawkwood]

Opiate equivalence chart:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equianalgesic

tramadol is considered fairly weak, on a par with codeine.

From wiki: ` For pain moderate in severity its effectiveness is equivalent to that of morphine; for severe pain it is less effective than morphine.'

Not sure what `moderate pain' equates to? The first time I was given tramadol was when I'd fractured my wrist in a cycle crash, and it was reset wrongly, it was effective then.

 

[del1962]

https://twitter.com/PaulKimmage/status/459072171181342720

Things I never thought I'd say: I have more respect for @lancearmstrong than I have for @michaelibarry

Anyone knows what has prompted Kimmage to say this?

 

[King Boonen]

https://twitter.com/PaulKimmage/status/459072171181342720



Anyone knows what has prompted Kimmage to say this?

Attention seeking?

 

[Benotti69]

Anyone knows what has prompted Kimmage to say this?

Armstrong admitted to all his doping bar comeback '09/'10. Armstrong told the truth about his doping from 95-05 whereas it appears in Barry's forthcoming book he has not told all.

 

[caryopsis]

Armstrong admitted to all his doping bar comeback '09/'10. Armstrong told the truth about his doping from 95-05 whereas it appears in Barry's forthcoming book he has not told all.

While I don't claim to know Kimmage's particular motivations, as I understand it Barry is also traveling around to represent/generate interest for the 2015 PanAm Games which will be held in Ontario next summer. They are trying to make this "a moment" for Canadian cycling, and he seems to be acting as one of the faces of it, so to speak. Along with generating interest in the book he has coming out soon.

Some who feel he lied and held omerta too long as a now-admittedly-doped pro cyclist aren't comfortable with or happy about him now trying to be a face of Canadian cycling going forward, especially when there are actual clean cyclists who could be playing these roles.

 

[pmcg76]

https://twitter.com/PaulKimmage/status/459072171181342720



Anyone knows what has prompted Kimmage to say this?

You know Kimmage is really starting to irk me. The comment to Contador about his mother telling him not to cheat. Well Paul, did your mother tell you the same thing?

Read Rough Ride and try to remember in which passages did Kimmage seem the happiest. They nearly all relate to the post 87 Tour period when as he described it 'was like being a member of the Fab 4, the Beatles'. No embarrasment or shame about basking in the reflected glory of dopers there or giving his all for them when racing for Ireland. Still never called them out either.

To listen to his 'holier than thou' stuff now, you would think he never even rode as a Pro rider or knew what that environment was like.

 

[Benotti69]

You know Kimmage is really starting to irk me. The comment to Contador about his mother telling him not to cheat. Well Paul, did your mother tell you the same thing?

Read Rough Ride and try to remember in which passages did Kimmage seem the happiest. They nearly all relate to the post 87 Tour period when as he described it 'was like being a member of the Fab 4, the Beatles'. No embarrasment or shame about basking in the reflected glory of dopers there or giving his all for them when racing for Ireland. Still never called them out either.

To listen to his 'holier than thou' stuff now, you would think he never even rode as a Pro rider or knew what that environment was like.

Still kicking the messenger. Kimmage has called them out since.

Amazing how Kimmage is the top of journalists who have called out doping, but he irks you. Wonder how you feel about those who protect omerta.....must be hard to read cycling media.....or maybe you choose to believe that UCI wants to catch doping even though the history of the sport shows different.

Unicorns, get your unicorns, 3 for a pound!

 

[pmcg76]

Still kicking the messenger. Kimmage has called them out since.

Amazing how Kimmage is the top of journalists who have called out doping, but he irks you. Wonder how you feel about those who protect omerta.....must be hard to read cycling media.....or maybe you choose to believe that UCI wants to catch doping even though the history of the sport shows different.

Unicorns, get your unicorns, 3 for a pound!

When has Kimmage come out publically and specifically said that Kelly, Roche and Earley doped. It was a long time ago but would casue a stir in Ireland so clearly I missed it. When was that exactly?

I take issue with things like griping about the Giro coming to Ireland becasue it's full of dopers. What sport could anyone bring to Ireland that wouldn't contain dopers? Is it ok to write about BOD because there is no doping in Rugby(I know he abandoned that for other reasons).

Kimmage is a sports journalist yet the only sport he ever seems to attack is cycling. I find that hypocritical. Kimmage is a good writer but seems more interested in making petty remarks than actually doing anything worthwhile in terms of exposing doping.

List all those athletes he has called out?

 

[Benotti69]

When has Kimmage come out publically and specifically said that Kelly, Roche and Earley doped. It was a long time ago but would casue a stir in Ireland so clearly I missed it. When was that exactly?

I heard him say it on stage at a whistleblowers. I am sure he said it on radio.

I take issue with things like griping about the Giro coming to Ireland becasue it's full of dopers. What sport could anyone bring to Ireland that wouldn't contain dopers? Is it ok to write about BOD because there is no doping in Rugby(I know he abandoned that for other reasons).

I agree that other sports get let off the hook. But Kimmage cannot be the go to man for all doping in all sports. Too much for one to take on.

Kimmage is a sports journalist yet the only sport he ever seems to attack is cycling. I find that hypocritical. Kimmage is a good writer but seems more interested in making petty remarks than actually doing anything worthwhile in terms of exposing doping.

List all those athletes he has called out?

He called out Michelle Smith.

List all the other journalists who have called out other sports doping?

To attack Kimmage is small and petty when so many other sports journalists ignore the obvious and have done worse by protecting omerta.

 

[Samson777]

To attack Kimmage is small and petty when so many other sports journalists ignore the obvious and have done worse by protecting omerta.

Writing Contador, to ask about his mother is small and petty. Just because the majority of journalist is full of ****, doesn't mean that Kimmage can't be called out, when he behaves like an idiot.

 

[Benotti69]

Writing Contador, to ask about his mother is small and petty. Just because the majority of journalist is full of ****, doesn't mean that Kimmage can't be called out, when he behaves like an idiot.

Didn't see that, got a link?

Kimmage has admitted his mistakes in the past.

 

[Samson777]

Didn't see that, got a link?

Kimmage has admitted his mistakes in the past.

What didn't you see? Kimmage asking Contador about his mom?
https://twitter.com/albertocontador/status/458175628043628545

 

[Benotti69]

What didn't you see? Kimmage asking Contador about his mom?
https://twitter.com/albertocontador/status/458175628043628545

Your upset by that!!!! Jeez!

 

[pmcg76]

Your upset by that!!!! Jeez!

There is a serious difference between being a classy journalist calling someone out based on their performances/what they say and being an asshat throwing insults around like Kimmage has done recently. His twitter comments read more like something from on here.

When he wrote his piece on Armstrong in 99 saying why he refused to applaud his win, it was excellent and informative without hitting below the belt. Those were the types of articles he built his reputation on.

This has nothing to do with ometra, but everything to do with showing a bit of class. I don't really care who he calls out as long as he shows a bit of respect at the same time.

 

[Samson777]

There is a serious difference between being a classy journalist calling someone out based on their performances/what they say and being an asshat throwing insults around like Kimmage has done recently. His twitter comments read more like something from on here.

When he wrote his piece on Armstrong in 99 saying why he refused to applaud his win, it was excellent and informative without hitting below the belt. Those were the types of articles he built his reputation on.

This has nothing to do with ometra, but everything to do with showing a bit of class. I don't really care who he calls out as long as he shows a bit of respect at the same time.

This

10 chr

 

[gooner]

Still kicking the messenger. Kimmage has called them out since.

Amazing how Kimmage is the top of journalists who have called out doping, but he irks you. Wonder how you feel about those who protect omerta.....must be hard to read cycling media.....or maybe you choose to believe that UCI wants to catch doping even though the history of the sport shows different.

Unicorns, get your unicorns, 3 for a pound!

It's more the timing of his response to Contador when he was mentioning his mother. If he wants to question him after Contador tweeting something in relation to his racing or something more related to the sport, by all means do it and continue it if he wishes. You won't hear any complaints from me.

When has Kimmage come out publically and specifically said that Kelly, Roche and Earley doped. It was a long time ago but would casue a stir in Ireland so clearly I missed it. When was that exactly?

I take issue with things like griping about the Giro coming to Ireland becasue it's full of dopers. What sport could anyone bring to Ireland that wouldn't contain dopers? Is it ok to write about BOD because there is no doping in Rugby(I know he abandoned that for other reasons).

Kimmage is a sports journalist yet the only sport he ever seems to attack is cycling. I find that hypocritical. Kimmage is a good writer but seems more interested in making petty remarks than actually doing anything worthwhile in terms of exposing doping.

List all those athletes he has called out?

Agree, if that's the case why should we bring any sporting events here so?The UFC is coming here in July and I'd nearly stick my head on the line and say that's worse off than cycling. I went to the first and previous time they came to the O2 back in January 2009 and they're in the stone age testing wise in comparison to cycling. Should we not accept this then? Why doesn't he have a go at that?

He also came out in that same interview and said things are as bad as they were back with Festina due to tramadol and caffeine use mentioned in Barry's book. Substances that are still legal but he somehow thinks it's as bad at the height of EPO use. It's hyperbole. Daniel Friebe said there was nothing explosive mentioned in the book.

Kimmage is a good journalist but at times, he does leave his emotions get the better of himself.

I heard him say it on stage at a whistleblowers. I am sure he said it on radio.



I agree that other sports get let off the hook. But Kimmage cannot be the go to man for all doping in all sports. Too much for one to take on.



He called out Michelle Smith.

List all the other journalists who have called out other sports doping?

To attack Kimmage is small and petty when so many other sports journalists ignore the obvious and have done worse by protecting omerta.

There's journalists in other sports who have done significant work in digging up stories in relation to match fixing in football or corruption in it. Check it up.

On that point, by Kimmage's logic we shouldn't have brought the Europa League final to Dublin in 2011 as a result of that. I don't accept this. Or does this only apply to cycling events with him?

 

[Benotti69]

All the Kimmage haters coming out of the woodwork.....

He asked a simple question of a doper "Did she ever talk to you about cheating?" and you fellows re calling it below the belt. Contador aint no small school doper....

Contador brought his Mother into the conversation on public social media and Kimmage took a shot. Grow up!

You are acting like he called his mother a ***** FFS!

 

[Benotti69]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

Go call out the other sports journalists writing about the sports you are talking about.

Trying to pick at Kimmage is pathetic. He has done more than most sporting journalists put together and yet you still look for faults. Pathetic really pathetic. Y'all probably subscribe to sky sports that funds the like of these doping sports.....well done lads. Sure yee are great!

 

[pmcg76]

Go call out the other sports journalists writing about the sports you are talking about.

Trying to pick at Kimmage is pathetic. He has done more than most sporting journalists put together and yet you still look for faults. Pathetic really pathetic. Y'all probably subscribe to sky sports that funds the like of these doping sports.....well done lads. Sure yee are great!

There is room for both praise and criticisim when they are warranted. Like Walsh or any other journalist, just becasue they have been proven correct before don't mean they are above reproach either. I have been praiseworthy of Kimmage in the past so I can point out when I think he is being a **** as well.

There are ways and means of asking questions and calling people out without being a **** about it. Since he has got on twitter, Kimmage is coming across more and more like a **** than a serious journalist.

The fact that you get all high and mighty about the in-morality of doping yet see nothing wrong with what Kimmage interjected to a comment on Contador's mother illustrates your own warped ideas of what is appropiate or not.

 

[andy1234]

Go call out the other sports journalists writing about the sports you are talking about.

Trying to pick at Kimmage is pathetic. He has done more than most sporting journalists put together and yet you still look for faults. Pathetic really pathetic. Y'all probably subscribe to sky sports that funds the like of these doping sports.....well done lads. Sure yee are great!

So he's done too many good things to be questioned?
Hmm, where have I heard that before?

 

[D-Queued]

So he's done too many good things to be questioned?
Hmm, where have I heard that before?

My siggy is a constant reminder of that...

Kimmage does get criticized a lot. Has been for years.

He was also the subject of a well documented, pre-meditated attack by Lance - who oddly first asked if he was Paul Kimmage in order to be certain that the subject of his planned attack was who it was intended for.

Said attack then being echoed, mindlessly and vociferously, by fanboys and PR folks alike.

Said attack also being part of the ongoing Lance modus operandi when dealing with the press.

In well knowing both the former (Kimmage has long been the subject of critique) and the latter (both barrels of a Lance attack), you are more likely to be seen as a persistent fanboy than as presenting a reasoned stance by questioning this.

Just saying.

Dave.

 

[andy1234]

My siggy is a constant reminder of that...

Kimmage does get criticized a lot. Has been for years.

He was also the subject of a well documented, pre-meditated attack by Lance - who oddly first asked if he was Paul Kimmage in order to be certain that the subject of his planned attack was who it was intended for.

Said attack then being echoed, mindlessly and vociferously, by fanboys and PR folks alike.

Said attack also being part of the ongoing Lance modus operandi when dealing with the press.

In well knowing both the former (Kimmage has long been the subject of critique) and the latter (both barrels of a Lance attack), you are more likely to be seen as a persistent fanboy than as presenting a reasoned stance by questioning this.

Just saying.

Dave.

Kimmage has indeed been the subject of critique, some of it justified, some not.
When he is being an obvious Twunt, such as tweeting Contador about his Mother, the critique is justified.
To claim he has done more than x y or z, and should not be criticised is comical, and even more so, given the history.....

A persistent fanboy would also need to have been a fanboy at some point.
Just saying.....

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Kimmage has indeed been the subject of critique, some of it justified, some not.
When he is being an obvious Twunt, such as tweeting Contador about his Mother, the critique is justified.
To claim he has done more than x y or z, and should not be criticised is comical, and even more so, given the history.....

A persistent fanboy would also need to have been a fanboy at some point.
Just saying.....

Qualifying as a fanboy, and acting like a fanboy are two entirely different things

Just saying.....