Minsk World Championships

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Froome19 said:
I wouldn't call it worrying as it is evidently a transition stage for GB, but it was clear which team is better and I don't think any amount of training can fix that. Clancy was never the strongest rider in the team and though Burke is strong I don't think he ever rivaled guys like Wiggins or Thomas. Tennant seems to be good but he wasn't good enough to make the Olympic finals team . It will remain to be seen whether Harrison, Dibben and the other new guys can develop and rival the class of 08 and 12.

Good ride by GB in the ladies considering that Vicky has mostly raced only at junior level. There is a lack of top sprint riders though for the women sprinting, it may have been that though the UCI may not have received the desired effect by expanding the Women's disciplines for 2012 it may reap the rewards in 2016.

All this it only matters once every four years stuff gives me the ....
 
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Froome19 said:
I wouldn't call it worrying as it is evidently a transition stage for GB, but it was clear which team is better and I don't think any amount of training can fix that. Clancy was never the strongest rider in the team and though Burke is strong I don't think he ever rivaled guys like Wiggins or Thomas. Tennant seems to be good but he wasn't good enough to make the Olympic finals team . It will remain to be seen whether Harrison, Dibben and the other new guys can develop and rival the class of 08 and 12.
I think that is doing a bit of a disservice to the Aussie team. I believe they were missing Rohan Dennis and Jack Bobridge. Clancy has always been one of the stronger guys and quite often takes bigger turns.

And although this can be seen as the start of the 'Road to Rio' this is still the World Championships and a chance to win a rainbow jersey. There are not many big track events and other than the Olympics this is as big as it gets.
 
Don't be late Pedro said:
I think that is doing a bit of a disservice to the Aussie team. I believe they were missing Rohan Dennis and Jack Bobridge. Clancy has always been one of the stronger guys and quite often takes bigger turns.

And although this can be seen as the start of the 'Road to Rio' this is still the World Championships and a chance to win a rainbow jersey. There are not many big track events and other than the Olympics this is as big as it gets.

The fact such a high proportion of big names can't even be bothered to turn up, and the lack of posting volume here rather gives the lie to the pretence that this is a particularly important competition.

Other than 1, 0 is as big as it gets in the binary system, and it ain't that big.
 
Dec 30, 2011
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
The fact such a high proportion of big names can't even be bothered to turn up, and the lack of posting volume here rather gives the lie to the pretence that this is a particularly important competition.

Discussion here if this thread is boring you:
Disappointing 6th by Men's sprint considering 2 of the 3 are Olympic champions.

I don't know about Clancy. Also are Dennis & Bobridge continuing on the track at least for the time being. Considering their potentials I do not see either of them doing it but a lot could happen. Then again the British guys won gold, whilst the Aussies are yet to win it.
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
The fact such a high proportion of big names can't even be bothered to turn up, and the lack of posting volume here rather gives the lie to the pretence that this is a particularly important competition.

Other than 1, 0 is as big as it gets in the binary system, and it ain't that big.

It is not as important as the Olympics, not any more. The Commonwealth games was pretty much killed off altogether. Most sports have sold out to the Olympics and nationalism, especially track cycling, it's their meal ticket, it sustains the cult of winning. The British public needs an explanation as to why we are not getting wall to wall gold medals according to Rob Hayles.

Personally I like to see the younger riders fighting their way up the ranks - it is more natural and exciting in a true sporting context. Rather than they becoming medal producing machines, which has no real character. It is quite unbecoming to see grown men sobbing because they only got a silver medal!

And being winners, then not being able to win I don't think will be easy for cycling. What will happen when people get bored with it all and pull the plug on the funding. Check out the report into Australian swimming and the reason they give why they only won one gold at the Olypmics at London. This is what happens when your funding gets cut...happy days.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1146196
 
Mar 31, 2009
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James Bronze 500

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Getting above the red line.....
0.2 seconds from gold in the 500, won by Lee Wai Sze.
 
Mar 31, 2009
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Van Velthoven Kilo Silver

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Van Velthoven started with a large gear.
He lost 1.15 seconds by the 375 mark.
After that point, he was the fastest. 1:00.869
Even at losing 0:01.06 at the first lap cost him gold.
 

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horsinabout said:
It is not as important as the Olympics, not any more. The Commonwealth games was pretty much killed off altogether. Most sports have sold out to the Olympics and nationalism, especially track cycling, it's their meal ticket, it sustains the cult of winning. The British public needs an explanation as to why we are not getting wall to wall gold medals according to Rob Hayles.

Personally I like to see the younger riders fighting their way up the ranks - it is more natural and exciting in a true sporting context. Rather than they becoming medal producing machines, which has no real character. It is quite unbecoming to see grown men sobbing because they only got a silver medal!

And being winners, then not being able to win I don't think will be easy for cycling. What will happen when people get bored with it all and pull the plug on the funding. Check out the report into Australian swimming and the reason they give why they only won one gold at the Olypmics at London. This is what happens when your funding gets cut...happy days.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1146196

It's the price of annual world championships in the modern day - it happens in many olympic sports - I'd bet good money this years world swimming will be 'moderate' in places, the "worlds athletics" too quite likely. yet the same programmes in the year before 2016 will be like a bloodbath of tension.

A world's every year is probably too much for track, but with so little alternative outlet for trackies, what can you do? It just doesn't have the narrative the road does.

All that said, today my country got it's first track world champ in 100 years, so I'm happy!
 
Aug 13, 2010
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Froome19 said:
Discussion here if this thread is boring you:
Disappointing 6th by Men's sprint considering 2 of the 3 are Olympic champions.

I don't know about Clancy. Also are Dennis & Bobridge continuing on the track at least for the time being. Considering their potentials I do not see either of them doing it but a lot could happen. Then again the British guys won gold, whilst the Aussies are yet to win it.
Only speculating here but I could well imagine they will give the road a go and see what happens. If they do well then continue if not they have a potential safety net of coming back to track or at least competing in both and focusing on prologues/TTs.
 
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martinvickers said:
All that said, today my country got it's first track world champ in 100 years, so I'm happy!

Are you refering to the Irish win in the scratch race? Well congratulations to the rider, glad your happy!
 
Dec 30, 2011
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It was a brilliant day by Irvine. From silver in the IP to a gold. Really brilliant. Chapeau to him.
 
horsinabout said:
Are you refering to the Irish win in the scratch race? Well congratulations to the rider, glad your happy!
I was impressed with Martyn Irvine at both the Glasgow World Cup
and at the recent Revolution in Manchester where he was resplendent
in SKY kit. Well done Martyn, a lovely lad.
 
horsinabout said:
It is not as important as the Olympics, not any more. The Commonwealth games was pretty much killed off altogether. Most sports have sold out to the Olympics and nationalism, especially track cycling, it's their meal ticket, it sustains the cult of winning. The British public needs an explanation as to why we are not getting wall to wall gold medals according to Rob Hayles.

Personally I like to see the younger riders fighting their way up the ranks - it is more natural and exciting in a true sporting context. Rather than they becoming medal producing machines, which has no real character. It is quite unbecoming to see grown men sobbing because they only got a silver medal!

And being winners, then not being able to win I don't think will be easy for cycling. What will happen when people get bored with it all and pull the plug on the funding. Check out the report into Australian swimming and the reason they give why they only won one gold at the Olypmics at London. This is what happens when your funding gets cut...happy days.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1146196

Track cycling will only go from strength to strength in The UK for the foreseeable future. We've dominated for a decade on the back of two indoor velodromes. Glasgow opened last winter, London and Derby should be operational in 2014. Comparisons with the Aussie swimmers at this stage are well wide of the mark. There's more chance of a cut in fuel duty than funding to UK cycling:)

The BBC have been doing a pretty good job of explaining to the the wider public why GB isn't winning everything in Minsk, on the radio and TV. The broadsheets also doing their bit.

That said, you'd only bet on the women's Team Pursuit at the moment...
 
Froome19 said:
I wouldn't call it worrying as it is evidently a transition stage for GB, but it was clear which team is better and I don't think any amount of training can fix that. Clancy was never the strongest rider in the team and though Burke is strong I don't think he ever rivaled guys like Wiggins or Thomas. Tennant seems to be good but he wasn't good enough to make the Olympic finals team . It will remain to be seen whether Harrison, Dibben and the other new guys can develop and rival the class of 08 and 12.

Good ride by GB in the ladies considering that Vicky has mostly raced only at junior level. There is a lack of top sprint riders though for the women sprinting, it may have been that though the UCI may not have received the desired effect by expanding the Women's disciplines for 2012 it may reap the rewards in 2016.

Clancy and Burke were the two strongest Brits in the team pursuit in London. Thomas was the weakest (official word is that he picked up food poisoning a week before the games and without that they would have gone close to breaking 3:50).
 
Mar 31, 2009
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Lee sprint 1/4

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Lee finishes out the fourth rider in the semis.
She pushed at the perfect moment.