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Exciting night of fighting Saturday. Enjoyed the whole card. Standout obviously Anthony Johnson and the main event. Great to see them go at it for 25 minutes. Mcgregor deservedly won imo, he got rounds 1 and 4 while Diaz had rounds 3 and 5. 2nd round decided and think mcgregor's early succes there was the difference.

Full credit to Mcgregor for coming back after round 3. Really thought he was done for but he found a second breath. It didn't look good when he was already breathing heavily in his corner between rounds 1 and 2 while Diaz was very relaxed
 
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I had
CMc 3 rounds
ND 1 round
draw 1 round

The judges were more friendly to ND (especially the one who scored 47-47?)
I just watched the fight again. Its easier to be more objective because there's way less "amp" for me the second time around.

Using he 10 point system:

1-CMc 10-8
2-CMc 10-9
3-ND 10-9
4-CMc 10-9
5-draw (yah I know)
CMc-39
ND-36
Even if ND gets 5 its still a 48-46 win for CMc
The White judge is crazy if 3 is a 10-8 round (no knock down) and 1 isn't (with knock down). ND's ending flurry in 2 just saved that from being a 10-8 for CMc (it still could have been because of two knock downs).
 
Joe Silva is leaving the UFC. Silva already had been the UFC's fight matchmaker for several years before the Fertitta brothers bought the promotion. IMHO, he was the single most critical cog in the UFC machine, and I think it shows shortsightedness on the part of the new owners, WME, that they did not lock in his services before buying the business. There are rumours that WME wanted him out, wanted a fresh set of eyes in his position, but buying the UFC without Joe Silva would be like buying 'Top Gear' without Jezza Clarkson. I think it more likely he decided it would be too much bother to try to acquaint himself with the new management's quirks and he'd rather go home and while away his time counting his stacks of money.

Or maybe Bellator made him a better offer ....
 
Surprised how easy it was for McGregor at the end. But sitll more amazed how Stephen Thompson survived the 4th round and actually came out stronger of the two by the end of the round.With the planned main event being so one-sided, the Woodley-Thompson bout was the actual highlight of the night for me.
 
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Surprised how easy it was for McGregor at the end. But sitll more amazed how Stephen Thompson survived the 4th round and actually came out stronger of the two by the end of the round.With the planned main event being so one-sided, the Woodley-Thompson bout was the actual highlight of the night for me.

I only caught the last 2 rounds of this fight. I'm gonna have to find the fight.
 
Hopefully nowhere near a professional fight again, for everyone's sake. She had a head start on everyone and didn't use that to develop skills necessary to maintain her dominance, now she's so far behind it's too late to do anything about it. Hope she can get her head in the right space and enjoy the riches she's made.
 
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Hopefully nowhere near a professional fight again, for everyone's sake. She had a head start on everyone and didn't use that to develop skills necessary to maintain her dominance, now she's so far behind it's too late to do anything about it. Hope she can get her head in the right space and enjoy the riches she's made.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you there!
 
I payed to watch the fight. Luckily the two fights before the main event were very nice. Will be looking forward to a Dillashaw/Garbrandt fight.
Meisha Tate thought Ronda was gonna lose. Said it didn't seem like she had her head in the game. Her coachs must be stupid. She didn't even try to bring the fight to the mat.
 
Agree with everyone. When others developed, she didn't. Her boxing skills looked very poor and amateurish in two fights in a row now, and like Tate said, her head was somewhere else. She should retire, take up acting, or almost anything else.
 
At the Bellator in NY, Matt Mitrione, who some viewed as a scrub, flattened Fedor Emelianenko very quickly after they both knocked each other down. Fedor was much more badly hurt, and the fight was soon over. Just a few years ago Fedor was considered the best in the world when Pride champion. Pretty much one punch did him in here and now he looks beyond washed up. Someone should stop him from ever fighting again.

If someone wanted to see Holm KO Crreira, here it is. Still would like to see Holly open up her offensive arsenal more. It seems like she's capable of using her strikes to KO just about anyone, but hesitates and waits to counter too miuch. I wonder of Nunes can bring that out of her?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS55i7lyFmI
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
At the Bellator in NY, Matt Mitrione, who some viewed as a scrub, flattened Fedor Emelianenko very quickly after they both knocked each other down. Fedor was much more badly hurt, and the fight was soon over. Just a few years ago Fedor was considered the best in the world when Pride champion. Pretty much one punch did him in here and now he looks beyond washed up. Someone should stop him from ever fighting again.

If someone wanted to see Holm KO Crreira, here it is. Still would like to see Holly open up her offensive arsenal more. It seems like she's capable of using her strikes to KO just about anyone, but hesitates and waits to counter too miuch. I wonder of Nunes can bring that out of her?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS55i7lyFmI
Yeah, Fedor looks washed up for sure.

It's actually embarrassing to watch his terribly unfit body lumber around the octagon. He never was very fit looking but he was an animal when fighting just a few short years ago, I guess it doesn't take long to lose your "edge".

I used to be a Fedor fan but it's hard to root for someone that don't take themselves seriously, even at 39 years old he should have been able to handle his opponent. :eek:
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
At the Bellator in NY, Matt Mitrione, who some viewed as a scrub, flattened Fedor Emelianenko very quickly after they both knocked each other down. Fedor was much more badly hurt, and the fight was soon over. Just a few years ago Fedor was considered the best in the world when Pride champion. Pretty much one punch did him in here and now he looks beyond washed up. Someone should stop him from ever fighting again.

If someone wanted to see Holm KO Crreira, here it is. Still would like to see Holly open up her offensive arsenal more. It seems like she's capable of using her strikes to KO just about anyone, but hesitates and waits to counter too miuch. I wonder of Nunes can bring that out of her?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS55i7lyFmI
That's a better video than the one that was up just after the fight (gone now). You gotta feel silly when you showboat and then get KOed! :eek:
 
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I remember laughing so hard when Conor lost to Diaz. I figured at the time that it would derail the absurd Conor hype train. Kind of stopped following MMA soon after.

And now he's in the general news because he somehow arranged a boxing bout against FLOYD MAYWEATHER, one of the best boxers of all time. Getting humiliated for a few rounds will make Conor more money in one night than every UFC fighter's career earnings.

Intrigued, I check his Wikipedia page. Surely he must have done incredibly impressive things since losing to Diaz, restoring the hype train to stratospheric levels. And I see that he's avenged the loss against Diaz and beat Eddie Alvarez.

That's it? How on earth did he secure a fight against Mayweather based on this?
 

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SeriousSam said:
I remember laughing so hard when Conor lost to Diaz. I figured at the time that it would derail the absurd Conor hype train. Kind of stopped following MMA soon after.

And now he's in the general news because he somehow arranged a boxing bout against FLOYD MAYWEATHER, one of the best boxers of all time. Getting humiliated for a few rounds will make Conor more money in one night than every UFC fighter's career earnings.

Intrigued, I check his Wikipedia page. Surely he must have done incredibly impressive things since losing to Diaz, restoring the hype train to stratospheric levels. And I see that he's avenged the loss against Diaz and beat Eddie Alvarez.

That's it? How on earth did he secure a fight against Mayweather based on this?
Its probably more than the next top 10 combined.
Why wouldn't Mayweather take this fight, it will be the easiest £100 million anyone ever earned, i doubt he gets hit once.
 
RE: Mayweather/McGregor, Dana White's just following the money. McGregor's trash-talk got the blogosphere buzzing over the potential for this match and it took on a life of its own. The boxing figureheads are aghast at the prospect of prizefighting's GOAT fighting an exhibition bout against a cage brawler, but even they agree this is a match the public were demanding. Just gate and PPV (ignoring sponsorships), this fight should bring in more than $500 million USD. How could you not want a piece of that action?

And before you write off McGregor, let me give you a few 'facts' in the way of numbers.

Mayweather is 40 years old. He scored half of all his professional knock-outs before he'd turned 22. He's fought seven times since he last knocked out an opponent (ko or tko). All seven of those contests went 12 rounds. He won all seven on points but two of them were by split decision.

McGregor is aged 28. In the time since Mayweather last KO'd an opponent, McGregor has fought 12 times, won 11,** nine by ko/tko, five knock-outs in the first round. Mayweather hasn't had a 1st round knock-out in more than 20 years.

To put that in perspective, over the most recent 60 months, McGregor has KO'd as many as Mayweather has fought. Mayweather, in the meanwhile, KO'd none.

Mayweather fights at very nearly his walking-around weight. He's rarely been over 160 lbs. McGregor has cut as much as 27 lbs to make 145, so when he steps in the ring with Mayweather, his true weight will be nearer light heavyweight than super welterweight.

At this stage I doubt Mayweather could knock out his baby mama (again). McGregor has never gone more than five rounds, and that only once, but those are 5-minute rounds, vice boxing's 3-minute rounds. How long McGregor can maintain his customary striking tempo with two minutes shorter rounds is an unknown, but there is little question a 12-year younger man will make better use of the minute between rounds. And the momentums of their respective careers are headed in exactly opposite directions.

I'm not predicting that McGregor will win, just that I think it is shortsighted to give him no chance at all. Make no mistake, he earns his living with his fists. The fact that he does so under the rubric of MMA rather than Prizefighting has everything to do with McGregor's notion of what true "fighting" is and not any lack of pugilistic skill. I don't think anyone without intimate knowledge of McGregor's preparations and game plan has a clue how the fight will progress, but there are indications it will be ...unconventional. The one thing I do know (or think I do) is that the longer it goes, the uglier it will become.

**Statistically, undefeated strings in MMA are much rarer/shorter because there are far more ways to lose than in boxing. It bears mention that Fedor Emelianenko's repute as GOAT is based largely on a "mere" 29-fight undefeated streak (compared to Marciano & Mayweather's 49-0). Anderson Silva's 16-win run is the greatest to date in the UFC.


RE: Fedor/Mitrione, the irony is that Matt Mitrione got his dream fight, the fight of a lifetime (against Emelianenko) because his UFC opponent (the soon-to-be Mr. Ronda Rousey) didn't get penalised for an eye poke so severe it broke Mitrione's eye socket. Fedor might have been past his "best if used by" date, but he's only two years older than Mitrione. And who knows how epic the fight might have been if not for the freak double-knockdown.


And, oh, the President of Chechnya has his own MMA league, Akhmat MMA. And he's challenged the UFC to a tournament.

All fights will be to the death. THUNDERDOME!
 
Great card tonight, but I'm not sure I'm in the mood to sit at a bar for four hours with an MMA crowd.

Cormier vs. Jones-- I'm not sure how to pick this one. Jones is much longer, and has more weapons, but DC can smother him. I'd like one of them to take it out of the judges' hands (I prefer that with every fight).

Woodly vs. Maia-- Woodly will likely win. He's better overall, plus Maia had a really quick turn around and short camp which doesn't usually work unless you are a superior fighter. That said Maia can grapple like no other so...

Justino vs. Evinger-- Justino will likely win. She will be 10ish pound heavier in the ring, and she punches hard. Evinger has to grapple, that's her only chance to push the fight out.

EDIT: I decided not to go watch the fights. I was just able to watch the Cormier vs. Jones fight though, and that was a good fight with good action. I would have liked them to go two more rounds, but finish the same way. Hopefully I'll see the other two fights soon.

EDIT 2: Justino was clearly bigger and stronger, and controlled the fight. It was better than most expected, and Evinger is better than what she showed. I'd like to see a rematch after Evinger has some time to be 145.