Mixed Martial Arts

[StyrbjornSterki]

The MMA News minute:

ESPN's Jim Lampley believes there will be a Mayweather-McGregor rematch because "there are enough suckers out there." He also believes "scam artist" Mayweather deliberately gave McGregor the three rounds he won on the judges scorecards. DW claims the original did a record 6.7 million PPVs.

Michael Bisping is being sued by some random guy in a California gym who claims "The Count" assaulted him for taking "his" weights.

R3 is training full-time for becoming a regular performer in the WWE.

Georges St Pierre opines that the UFC's new procedure for weigh-ins the day before the fight is "the worst thing they could do" because it encourages even more drastic weight cutting. I wonder if he's been reading my posts here?

But the day-before weigh-ins is half of the cure for drastic weigh-cuts. The other half is another weigh-in before the fighter can leave the dressing room to begin his ring walk. No one can afford to stay significantly dehydrated for an entire day.

 

[jmdirt]

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The MMA News minute:

ESPN's Jim Lampley believes there will be a Mayweather-McGregor rematch because "there are enough suckers out there." He also believes "scam artist" Mayweather deliberately gave McGregor the three rounds he won on the judges scorecards. DW claims the original did a record 6.7 million PPVs.

Michael Bisping is being sued by some random guy in a California gym who claims "The Count" assaulted him for taking "his" weights.

R3 is training full-time for becoming a regular performer in the WWE.

Georges St Pierre opines that the UFC's new procedure for weigh-ins the day before the fight is "the worst thing they could do" because it encourages even more drastic weight cutting. I wonder if he's been reading my posts here?

But the day-before weigh-ins is half of the cure for drastic weigh-cuts. The other half is another weigh-in before the fighter can leave the dressing room to begin his ring walk. No one can afford to stay significantly dehydrated for an entire day.

Three words: Base line wight.

 

[Tonton]

...still, no probs for GSP. What a win. Greatest ever.

 

[jmdirt]

GSP clearly wasn't sitting on the couch during his four year hiatus. He looked good, but a few times you could tell that his body wasn't used to being hammered. Bis no tap!

Dillashaw got the belt back and now wants Johnson. That should be a good fight, but I don't see Dill winning. I wonder if they will fight for a belt or at a catch weight? If they fight heavy, Dill has a better shot.

 

[May0maniac]

...still, no probs for GSP. What a win. Greatest ever.

Yeah, returning after 4 years at a higher weight class and finishing the champion is just incredible, he has to be the greatest.

 

[King Boonen]

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mmapayouts.com is speculating UFC 216 sold 120,000 PPVs. Av! That is truly pathetic. There already were rumours that DW might scupper the flyweight division. His accountants can't be happy that Mighty Mouse took home $3 per each PPV.

As long as any discussion remains factual and it doesn't move into speculation I don't see it being a problem.

Cheers! I saw it as more a statement on rules clarification rather than directly PEDs related. There undoubtedly are many twists ant turns yet to come in the Jon Jones drama, so I shall endeavour to limit comments of fact.

No worries, it's actually the same rules that apply to the whole forum, just as an FYI. It's speculation that is an issue and belongs in the clinic. The line that is a little difficult is between forum user speculation and reporting of external speculation. I think external speculation on consequences of known doping offences (e.g. Jones gets popped and Rogan speculates on ban length) is fine. External speculation on who is doping but hasn't been caught (e.g. Rogan and Rutten talk about Bob Sapp's supposed doping) isn't ok as really it's just making an argument by proxy. That kind of thing would need to be in the clinic.

The MMA News minute:

[Georges St Pierre opines that the UFC's new procedure for weigh-ins the day before the fight is "the worst thing they could do" because it encourages even more drastic weight cutting. I wonder if he's been reading my posts here?

But the day-before weigh-ins is half of the cure for drastic weigh-cuts. The other half is another weigh-in before the fighter can leave the dressing room to begin his ring walk. No one can afford to stay significantly dehydrated for an entire day.

Three words: Base line wight.

From what I remember GSP was a big welterweight back in the day with considerable reach advantage over Penn, Hughes, Newton, Trigg, Sherk etc. and was always talked about as a fighter who was likely fighting in a weight class below what his natural size would usually be. He was at least pushing the limits for a welterweight. I know that there has been the introduction of lower weight classes and that a few of the older welterweight fighters were really lightweights stepping up (dare I say that's why Hughes was so dominant..?) but I must admit I find GSP complaining about weight cutting fairly hypocritical. Happy to be corrected if my memory on that is wrong!

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

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... I must admit I find GSP complaining about weight cutting fairly hypocritical. Happy to be corrected if my memory on that is wrong!

I don't think it's a concern over fighter weight as much as it is GSP wanting to take issue with the UFC's decision making in general (DW's in particular). He still has unresolved issues in that regard.

Wow, what an ace event. Three title fights and three new champions. And I think Namajunas was the least expected of the lot of them, especially with the first round finish.

I'd always thought Bisping only won the belt on a fluke, a belief reinforced by his inability to finish pensioner Dan Henderson in his one and only successful title defence. Especially considering the four year layoff, I though GSP fair made 'The Count' look a piker. Apart the couple of times he misjudged Bisping's reach by about an inch or so, Bisping had nothing for him so long as they stayed on their feet. And Bisping looked like he'd forgot to practice takedown defence. Georges took no end of heat for failing to finish any of his last seven fights before he stepped away from the sport, and he hadn't finished anyone since BJ Penn almost eight years ago. And although he was 3-for-3 on takedowns against Bisping, it was his striking that set up the RNC. FightMetric gives GSP more punches landed in all three rounds, and more thrown in the 1st and 3rd. His significant strikes landed was higher by about 20% over all three rounds (Bisping spent most of the 2nd shadowboxing). So maybe this is a different GSP. GSP v2.

Dana says GSP gets Robert Whittaker for his first title defence, which seems odd to me because Whittaker is still on the mend from the interim title fight with Romero. And Whittaker only got the interim shot because Bisping was injured and unable to defend his title. Meanwhile, Luke Rockhold, who had had five consecutive finish wins prior to the loss to Bisping, and who I would argue by rights was due a rubber match title fight with Bisping, is fit to fight. GSP had to have his nose sewn back together so he undoubtedly will get a short medical suspension, but even if that extends until Whittaker is fit to fight, I still think Rockhold is deserving of the first shot at GSP.


Props to Big John for letting the fight continue through the flurry of unanswered elbows that GSP landed after he'd felled Bisping, allowing it to proceed to a clear conclusion. No doubt Mario Yamasaki would never have let it go that far. And add 10 points to Bisping's man-card for refusing to tap. I never thought him a legitimate title contender but I can't deny he is a true gamer and always comes prepared to bring it for 10 rounds. There is no questioning his heart.


On a humerous note, Demetrious Johnson wants $2 mil for his next fight. The problem with that strategy is his draw is too meagre. MMA Payout.com figures live gate plus PPVs at UFC 216, the setting for Mighty Mouse's record 11th conescutive title defence, only came to a bit less than $11 million USD. So Johnson thinks it's reasonable he should receive 18% of the event's gross.

Dana's response was expectedly "conciliatory:"

Listen, you can’t be in a position where you’re like ‘I want $2 million, f—k you, I don’t care what you make. I don’t care how much this thing sells, I just want $2 million.’

Proof yet again, it's good to be the king.

 

[Tonton]

...still, no probs for GSP. What a win. Greatest ever.

Yeah, returning after 4 years at a higher weight class and finishing the champion is just incredible, he has to be the greatest.

Benotti69 would add: even Lance couldn't do it . Yes KB I saw your post . No such talk. And from that prospective, GSP's stand on the issue is crystal clear btw. But to the point:

Bisping is way underrated. No bum beats Anderson Silva. Add to his credit Mayhem Miller (crazy...good), one on the Iron Dan of MMA , yes the guys who beat Fedor...that's not shabby at all. And the test of all tests when it comes to the testes: facing and going the distance against Wanderlei, that's bad@ss. Respect to Michael Bisping. And he's a nice guy too, who should never have fallen in the trash-talking trap...big minus for me.

Dana White is going to milk it, hope that GSP keeps winning until what I would personnally setup as GSP's next fight: versus Mc Gregor at 155. UFC's biggest payday, by a thousand miles. GSP can go down that much I believe (at least for the weight-in), be 165 on fight night...and kick the punk's derriere. It would be not even close.

Maybe GSP will say goodbye. There's a two-fight deal, I know, but if I were him, I'm Rocky Balboa, just smacked Nigel Drago, thank you very much...I'm the greatest. Wittacker? Meh...The End.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

GSP has a neck injury. He caught an incidental elbow to the back of the neck in the first round. So he'll be out for an indeterminate period, but neck injuries being what they are, he could be done. So Whittaker might get yet another interim belt match.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

Anderson Silva has been popped for PEDs. Again. USADA gave him an OOC on 26 October and it came back positive. Which scuppers his scheduled 25 November bout with Kelvin Gastelum. Spider tested positive for drostanolone and methyltestosterone after his UFC 183 bout with Nick Diaz in 2015 (and invoked the "contaminated sex pill" defence).

Isn't it odd that the only anti-doping agency that ever catches out the Brazilian fighters is USADA? Is everyone else asleep at the switch?
[/rhetoricism]

If you haven't seen, "The Notorious" leapt into the cage at the end of the opening match of last night's Bellator 187 in Dublin, Ireland, which saw one of his mates KO his opponent (with a single second remaining on the clock). And he took umbrage when referee Mark Goddard (who hadn't yet completed his responsibilities to the downed fighter) told him to get the hell out of his cage. And McGregor pursued Goddard and shoved him from behind. A wee, dainty ceremonial shove, but he laid his hands on an official just the same.

McGregor had no credentials for the fight, wasn't a licensed cornerman, purely there a spectator. And he doesn't fight for Bellator, so there's no recourse there, but if might affect his ability to get a license to fight in his home country.

But what about the UFC? In 2014, Dana White unceremoniously threw Jason High out of the UFC for shoving referee Kevin Mulhall at Fight Night 42. After which DW was quoted as saying, “You don’t touch a referee ever. Unforgivable. Don’t come back, ever.”

So now we'll see whether DW is a man of his word or a believer in moral relativism.
[/cynicism]

 

[jmdirt]

When I saw it, all I thought was "lame". Even if he was just putting on a silly show, what about respecting the fighter on the floor?!

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

I find this a bit bizarre.

I knew some of the American Indian tribes were heavily invested in the gambling industry. Apparently, at least one of them -- the Mohegan tribe -- has branched out into combat sports regulation (who knew?). And they were the regulating body for Bellator 187.

American Indians, regulating an MMA event, in Ireland. Are you with me so far?

And as it happens, the chairman of the Mohegan Tribe Depart of Athletic Regulation (Mike Mazzulli) also is the president of the Association of Boxing Commissions, which is the big kahuna of all boxing and MMA commissions in the USA and Canada (to include the sovereign Indian territories therein). A man of considerable influence, to say the least. And he already has sent messages to all of his fellow ABC commissioners under whose authority McGregor is licensed to fight advising them of his misconduct. So Connor might have underestimated the blowback from his little display of exuberance.


And not one to let a good nickname go to waste, The Notorious already tweeted a big F-U! to Bellator, et Al (which he deleted shortly thereafter). So I'm thinking that he aspires to replace Jon 'Bones' Jones in his (former?) role as the UFC's premier train wreck in slow motion.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

Bloody Elbow is reporting that Mike Mazzulli was told by UFC officials within two hours of the incident that McGregor was being pulled from the card at UFC 219 (30 December). Their quote from Mazzulli: “They did inform me that he was set to be on the December 30th card and he will not be on it. So I do commend UFC to some extent for doing that. On the other hand, I will be looking at it, I will be speaking to my attorney's upon returning to the United States to see if I have any action." (emphasis added)

Bellator announced that they have an 8-man heavyweight tournament slated for 2018, one bout at each of seven events. And the contestants will be Fedor Emelianenko, Frank Mir, Matt Mitrione and Roy "Big Country" Nelson, plus LHWs Ryan Bader, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, Muhammed Lawal and Chael Sonnen. Glad to see Bellator continuing with the creative fight cards. Ditto for Fedor not retiring after the Rocky-ish finish to the fight with Mitrione.

There's also a rumour making the rounds that Chuck Liddell is considering a come-back. And despite his past ties to the UFC, if this comes to pass, I'd give even money he'll go with Bellator.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

Bloody Elbow is reporting that an 18-year-old young woman in Perth, Australia, died making the cut to 64 kilos for a Muay Thai bout. She collapsed and died four days later from what the doctor called "heat exhaustion or heat shock." Her case has been referred to the coroner for investigation.

On a less somber note, Shane Carwin has told Scott Coker he wants in on Bellator's heavyweight tournament. But they need an even number of fighters to support the single-elimination format. If they let him in it could bring out other UFC pensioners like Mark Coleman and Randy Couture.

 

[Tonton]

Shin-Gi-Tai...

Shin: in MMA, killer instinct, the will to suffer more than your opponent.

Gi: skills. You can learn them.

Tai: the physical part, that can mitigate a small disadvantage with regards to skills, that can make you outlast the opponent (i.e. your strength bar in the video game doesn't go to red as fast as your opponent), endurance while you are explosive, that's why you dope.

There's no substitute for mental toughness and skills. Or at least no quick substitute, hence the say that you can't turn a donkey into a Kentucky Derby winner. Shrinks, training can improve a fighter. But the low hanging fruit is Tai: after round one and your opponent is at 80%, you're at 90%. after round two your opponent is at 70% and you're at 85%. Or just over-power. It can be natural, and you're a great athlete, or it can be...and you're a fraud.

That's Jones, Spider, Brock, and plenty more.

I would venture to say that MMA is more dirty than any sport. That's why GSP left, The come-back was risky, you don't show up with a knife at a gunfight with all the doping going on. Maybe that's why he chose Bisping.

GSP: stop or you will meet a Lance, who may not get busted and your legacy is tainted. Just a Connor smack and go. Big money.

 

[jmdirt]

Shin-Gi-Tai...

Shin: in MMA, killer instinct, the will to suffer more than your opponent.

Gi: skills. You can learn them.

Tai: the physical part, that can mitigate a small disadvantage with regards to skills, that can make you outlast the opponent (i.e. your strength bar in the video game doesn't go to red as fast as your opponent), endurance while you are explosive, that's why you dope.

There's no substitute for mental toughness and skills. Or at least no quick substitute, hence the say that you can't turn a donkey into a Kentucky Derby winner. Shrinks, training can improve a fighter. But the low hanging fruit is Tai: after round one and your opponent is at 80%, you're at 90%. after round two your opponent is at 70% and you're at 85%. Or just over-power. It can be natural, and you're a great athlete, or it can be...and you're a fraud.

That's Jones, Spider, Brock, and plenty more.

I would venture to say that MMA is more dirty than any sport. That's why GSP left, The come-back was risky, you don't show up with a knife at a gunfight with all the doping going on. Maybe that's why he chose Bisping.

GSP: stop or you will meet a Lance, who may not get busted and your legacy is tainted. Just a Connor smack and go. Big money.

NOT. We probably should engage in that discussion here though.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

A former UFC fighter just got 10 months in the dock for accepting a bribe to take a dive at Fight Night 79 (2015) in Seoul.

A sudden swing in the betting tipped off UFC officials that the fight might have been fixed so they went to Bang Tae-hyun and gave him a very pointed warning before the fight. His sentence was reduced because he both won the fight and gave back the money but the online story offers no detail as to how the police might have known he repaid the bribe, or what the proof was that he had accepted it in the first place. The fight took place two years ago today and Bang (is that not the perfect name for a fighter?) apparently is still both alive and ambulatory, so it seems to me he has been treated much more harshly by the Korean legal system than the Korean mafia (but maybe we should reserve judgement on that account until we've seen how he fares after 10 months in the nick).

AFAIK this is the first public acknowledgement of fight fixing in the UFC, but it does give one to wonder, is this the only time it's happened or merely the first time anyone's been caught?

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

GSP now is on the UFC's sick list due to colitis. He is famous for the anxiety bouts he experiences before a fight, which can't help in that regard. I think this probably comes closer to the truth of why he skipped out on four years fighting than tales of "unfairness" due to the UFC's slipshod policing of PEDs. If he's looking for an honourable "out" from fighting for a living, this looks bespoke. But considering the result of the Bisping fight, and considering how few of his final pre-layoff fights he managed to score a finish on, I can't help but wonder whether he isn't a more formidable fighter with the extra one stone. I don't think he ever in his career scored such an blatant "walk-off" KO as he did against Bisping.

Speaking of GSP, in short order we've had two knockouts in the octagon -- Bisping's (via GSP) and 'Reem's (via Ngannou) -- that were about as violent a "snap-the-head-straight-back" KTFOs as I've ever seen. Overeem lying stiff on the canvas like he was clutching a high voltage wire was just frightening. Ngannou appears to have punching prowess to make Mike Tyson jealous.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

Right on queue, GSP has relinquished the middleweight title for 'health reasons."

Anderson Silva's coach claims the Spider tested positive owing to contaminated supplements (how original!). Also claims they will be testing those supplements (future tense) to confirm they were the cause. Which probably means they're shopping at this moment for contaminated supplements to be the scapegoat. In Brazil, this should not be too challenging.

Roy "Big Country" Nelson gets Matt Mitrione on 16 February at Bellator 194 in the heavyweight grand prix. Should be quite a watchable bang-fest, even if you're not a fan of Bellator. They've fought once before, in 2012, and Nelson won by TKO in the first. But it was only Mitrone's seventh MMA bout and Nelson's 25th. Coming off a dramatic "Rocky-esque" win over The Last Emperor, Mitrione starts the tourney as the odd-on favourite. I like watching both these guys fight because guys there's no show-boating, no finesse. Just two very large men, each promising to push your face in.

The UFC cleared Mark Hunt to resume fighting after a battery of tests at the Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health in Las Vegas. Dana White pulled Hunt from all fight cards after Hunt wrote a letter to PlayersVoice.com.au complaining he wasn't sleeping well, he was forgetting things and slurring his words. Next Hunt sued the UFC claiming his words were being taken out of context. To which DW replied in a letter to the Daily Telegraph asking how is it possible to take the words Hunt himself wrote out of context. The letter ends with a bit of self-serving promotion, DW claiming the fighter's health always comes first (except, of course, for when the promotions' concerns come first.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

MMA Fighting is reporting that Jon 'Bones' Jones was administered and "passed" a polygraph test in which he stated he had taken NO PEDS in the run-up to UFC 214.

I have no idea if a poly holds water with USADA (or WADA).

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

When Uriah Hall sent no notice and didn't show up for the weigh-in for last weekend's UFC Fight Night in St Louis, he got the rough edge of a lot of people's tongues, most of all his scheduled opponent, Vitor Belfort. Now he's claiming he had a mini-seizure and slight heart attack. Which sounds credible to me, on two counts. First, this guy loves to bang, and I'm hard pressed to believe he would try to dodge a fight with Godzilla, much less Vitor "Mister TRT" Belfort. Second, Dhafir Harris, AKA Dada 5000, who collapsed in the ring at the end of an otherwise completely forgettable fight against Kimbo Slice (at Bellator 149, 19 February 2016), same venue as the equally forgettable Ken Shamrock vs Royce Gracie bout) and was later diagnosed with cardiac arrest and renal failure due to dehydration. He had cut ~40 pounds (18 kg) to make Bellator's heavyweight limit of 265 and was suffering from severe electrolyte imbalance.

Hall also mentioned his kidneys were involved, and his doctor told him he probably would have died had he managed to make weight. The words "electrolyte imbalance" aren't mentioned in the linked article but that's my completely half-arsed diagnosis.

I'd be preaching to the choir/ beating the dead horse [pick one] if I bothered of mention the stupidity of allowing weight-cutting to continue that puts so much physical stress on the fighters, so I won't.

 

[jmdirt]

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When Uriah Hall sent no notice and didn't show up for the weigh-in for last weekend's UFC Fight Night in St Louis, he got the rough edge of a lot of people's tongues, most of all his scheduled opponent, Vitor Belfort. Now he's claiming he had a mini-seizure and slight heart attack. Which sounds credible to me, on two counts. First, this guy loves to bang, and I'm hard pressed to believe he would try to dodge a fight with Godzilla, much less Vitor "Mister TRT" Belfort. Second, Dhafir Harris, AKA Dada 5000, who collapsed in the ring at the end of an otherwise completely forgettable fight against Kimbo Slice (at Bellator 149, 19 February 2016), same venue as the equally forgettable Ken Shamrock vs Royce Gracie bout) and was later diagnosed with cardiac arrest and renal failure due to dehydration. He had cut ~40 pounds (18 kg) to make Bellator's heavyweight limit of 265 and was suffering from severe electrolyte imbalance.

Hall also mentioned his kidneys were involved, and his doctor told him he probably would have died had he managed to make weight. The words "electrolyte imbalance" aren't mentioned in the linked article but that's my completely half-arsed diagnosis.

I'd be preaching to the choir/ beating the dead horse [pick one] if I bothered of mention the stupidity of allowing weight-cutting to continue that puts so much physical stress on the fighters, so I won't.

I'll keep singing it...walking weight rule. They have to weigh in once a month and can not cut more than 5% from their 12 month average. ie: 180 lb average could fight as low as 170, no more 180 fighting 155. Not only would this be healthy (ier) for the fighters, I think that it would make for better fights for many reasons.

Should be a good heavyweight fight tonight!

 

[Ferminal]

Not quite... Ngannou was pretty embarrassing, even for a heavyweight. I mean I get the lack of cardio when you're carrying that much muscle but there's no way he should have been in a title fight as those four rounds showed.

I'm not a fan but Macdonald was most impressive for me tonight, proper tough.

 

[jmdirt]

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Not quite... Ngannou was pretty embarrassing, even for a heavyweight. I mean I get the lack of cardio when you're carrying that much muscle but there's no way he should have been in a title fight as those four rounds showed.

I'm not a fan but Macdonald was most impressive for me tonight, proper tough.

I didn't see the fight, but in the highlights Ng just looks slow from round one. He's a big man and that can win some fights, but Miocic is a good fighter so you need more than just size and power to get him.

 

[jhonnyllb]

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The ladies division is wild! I like that any one of them could win on any given night! So does AN get RR or HH now? AN looked WAY bigger than MT.

Last I heard him remark to it, Dana said R3 will get whomever wears the belt on her return. I haven't looked into Nunes's "street weight" but the Brazilians across the board are notorious for their weight-cutting.


The Ferttitas bought the UFC about UFC 40, but even with all their financial backing (read: dad's money), it stayed underwater until UFC 100 (hindered, no doubt, by widespread misunderstanding of the sport, which Zuffa have made great headway in correcting). If MMA Payout's estimate of 1-1.2m is accurate (actual numbers won't be available for weeks yet), UFC 200 will be no threat to eclipse UFC 100 as the high water mark for PPV sales (@1.6m). Which will leave speculation what might have been if Jones-Cormier II had come off, but Jones-Cormier I only sold 800,000 PPVs.


Both Rashad Evans and Chael Sonnen are saying Jon Jones tested positive for two estrogen-blockers. This is a possible indicator he was on post-cycle therapy, coming off a "cycle" of anabolic steroids. Natural Test production is depressed when on cycle, so symptoms of excessive estrogen, like gynecomastia (AKA ***'s tits), can appear immediately post-cycle, when the exogenous Test is withdrawn but before the testes have regained normal output.

On PCT, an anti-estrogen (SERM) typically is accompanied by HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin), which mimics the natural luteinizing hormone to trigger the testes into resuming natural production all the sooner (a function of the HPG axis). When Jones said he was accused of taking something he couldn't even pronounce, hCG was the first banned substance I thought of. Now they are available in the form of drops, which are still banned in USA.

AASs also would explain why his T/E ratio was as low as 0.19:1 during testing prior to Jones-Cormier I (UFC 182). The OOC might have been administered early enough into his PCT that endogenous Test production was still depressed but long enough into his course of diuretics that no exogenous Test remained. NSAC did a CIR test on account of the abnormal T/E, but it came back cleans.

In a recent Joe Rogan Experience podcast, Chael Sonnen tells the tale (which he alleges he heard from eye-witnesses) that USADA showed up unexpectedly at Jones's gym in the run-up to Jones-Johnson at UFC 187 (23 May, 2015), which never came off, on account of Jones's hit-and-run incident. The story alleges that Jones panicked at the approach of the USADA men and hid under the cage, thinking they'd leave once convinced he was not there. This was prior to the UFC signing with USADA, before fighters were obliged to keep the organisation apprised of their location, so there would have been no penalty for Jones being unlocatable. But instead of leaving, the USADA men took a seat and waited until the gym closed for the day and everyone (except Jones, hiding under the ring) went home for the night.

All of which only got Jones off the hook temporarily, because USADA got wind of how they had been duped, and moved Jones's name to the top of their hit list. Sonnen says they were so vexed, in fact, they figured Jones must have had to go to answer the call of nature at some point while he was in hiding, so they even tried (unsuccessfully?) to get a warrant to test the floor under the cage for Jones's urine.

Sonnen also speculates that this one positive was so far in advance of the match, and the OOCs were coming with such regularity, that there likely are other (possible) positives that USADA just haven't finished testing yet.

Did brock lesnar ever had drugs? I heard most MMA fighters take Drugs before matches.. Only few of them caught under dope test. Is that true?