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Good!

let me kick off with some other mma talk than UFC.

Who also can't wait for the fight of 2012?

Aoki - Alvarez II at bellator 20-04-2012
 
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dirkvijf said:
The second use of Valentijn should be Alistair I think....

Besides that, Valentijn isn't very good, come on, you never tap to strikes....

valentijn is a coward for tapping to punches. but he is good, as in skilled
 
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dirkvijf said:
BTW, why not change the topic name to mma Talk?

MMA is more then only UFC, and to be completly honest, the UFC is one of the worst things ever to happen to the sport of mma.

agreed.


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Yes, it's very crooked, and also the reason why mma is still in its baby shoes.
Zuffa is also paying the lawyer of Overeem who aso represented Michael Jackson and Paris Hilton in other cases, so obviously they don't really care about his tests.

As long as Dana White and Mob brothers Fertitta keep treating the UFC as a popularity contest, the sport will never surpass being "entertainment".

I really miss the Pride days....

they never tested much in pride either. it was far worse but I don't care about that too much. steroids don't make you a better fighter overall.
 

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I'm not really a "caged violence" person, but as far as athletes I always wanted to do one of those Ultimate Fighter guys after they lost a fight. These huge muscle dudes often just collapse in a puddle of tears after they lose a fight. They're so vulnerable right at that moment I can just see them saying "OK" and throwing their legs in their air and letting me have my way with them. It's like life isn't worth living right in that moment. And the fact that they're often a bruised and bloody mess is a turn on as well.

But that's just a fantasy. If they took offense they could probably kill me pretty easily, but that's half the turn on..
 
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lackluster main event...

can't vs. won't....

Hyping a fight with fake-*** "bad-blood" is pathetic and makes the sport look like WWE.
 
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What a sickening injury that Anderson Silva got. I don't think he will be back from that. Not just the extent of the injury, but there's bound to be psychological scars about doing it in the future and whether he can overcome it in his head to do kicks, blocks, etc once again.

The Rousey/Tate fight was entertaining.
 
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I will be hoping Dustin Poirier beats Conor McGregor tonight. A lorry load of Irish fans gone over to it but I find McGregor a very dislikeable character and find it nauseating the hype he has got over here considering the level of opposition he has fought so far.

That fight against Brandao in July in Dublin was a joke and it was entirely done to keep him on winning ways. That was main event and the card as a whole was embarrassing. For me, McGregor is the most overhyped Irish sportsperson of all time. He has appeared multiple times on national tv chat shows and RTE have done documentaries on him following around. All this while other Irish sports stars who have achieved more and carry themselves well in public get largely little in comparison by way of attention.

Hope Poirier ends all this nonsense tonight. I would be disgusted if this is the kind of sports person people over here want to put on a pedestal.
 
While it wasn't as much fight as I would have liked to see, RR demonstrated once again that she is simply the best woman fighter. She just has too many weapons. I want to see her fight Cyborg, but only if Cyborg is clean and can get to a reasonable weight. I don't want to see RR fight a man, nor will I say "she could win vs. most of the guys 130 and below", but a man with her complete skill set would be the world champ too.

Some of the other action on the main card was good. As expected, it was very Brazilian style fighting which is a little different than what us USAers usually see. Gadeha vs. Aguilar was solid.
 
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jmdirt said:
While it wasn't as much fight as I would have liked to see, RR demonstrated once again that she is simply the best woman fighter. She just has too many weapons. I want to see her fight Cyborg, but only if Cyborg is clean and can get to a reasonable weight. I don't want to see RR fight a man, nor will I say "she could win vs. most of the guys 130 and below", but a man with her complete skill set would be the world champ too.

Some of the other action on the main card was good. As expected, it was very Brazilian style fighting which is a little different than what us USAers usually see. Gadeha vs. Aguilar was solid.


Ronda is far and away the best female fight in MMA and all credit too her for being so diligent in her training, however she isn’t a complete fighter by any means and there are plenty of male fighters who are just as skilled, she is way ahead of the other women currently competing though.
 
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jmdirt said:
While it wasn't as much fight as I would have liked to see, RR demonstrated once again that she is simply the best woman fighter. She just has too many weapons. I want to see her fight Cyborg, but only if Cyborg is clean and can get to a reasonable weight. I don't want to see RR fight a man, nor will I say "she could win vs. most of the guys 130 and below", but a man with her complete skill set would be the world champ too.

Some of the other action on the main card was good. As expected, it was very Brazilian style fighting which is a little different than what us USAers usually see. Gadeha vs. Aguilar was solid.


Ronda is far and away the best female fight in MMA and all credit too her for being so diligent in her training, however she isn’t a complete fighter by any means and there are plenty of male fighters who are just as skilled, she is way ahead of the other women currently competing though.

She can win via Judo (!), Boxing/kickboxing, and Muay Thai, that's pretty complete (Sonnen agreed with my Tweet that she is one of the most complete! :D ). A big part of this win was Correia focusing on Rousey's Judo so RR beat another way. Most of RR's fights are too short for her to demonstrate her skill set though. The competition does make a difference because at each men's weight class there are 10 guys who can win. That's not a knock on RR though. If anything its a knock on the other woman. Woman's combat fields will likely never be as deep as men's.
EDIT: Okamoto agrees with me too.
 
Athlete of the year.

I like the way Meisha Tate tweeted that she would last longer than that. I'm not sure if that's a challenge, or what, but Rousey has already beaten her twice. Though is there anyone left to fight RR? Zingano was supposed to last longer than she dd. Same with Correia. Do they get rematches?

RR has already blown through the competition. But she, and women's MMA is already a gold mine now that we are seeing an extremely high skill level from the fighters. So if I were Dana White, I'd write a big check and start developing as many female fighters as possible, as its likely to take a year to get someone able to even compete with RR. But the long tern dividends here could pay off well.

As to RR fighting a man, I hope it never happens. It becomes a side show then. Unless Floyd Mayweather wants to get into MMA. I'd watch that, because Floyd has a long history of liking to hit women. I'd pay to see Ronda beat his ass to a pulp.
 
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jmdirt said:
She can win via Judo (!), Boxing/kickboxing, and Muay Thai, that's pretty complete (Sonnen agreed with my Tweet that she is one of the most complete! :D ). A big part of this win was Correia focusing on Rousey's Judo so RR beat another way. Most of RR's fights are too short for her to demonstrate her skill set though. The competition does make a difference because at each men's weight class there are 10 guys who can win. That's not a knock on RR though. If anything its a knock on the other woman. Woman's combat fields will likely never be as deep as men's.
EDIT: Okamoto agrees with me too.

Like I said, in womens MMA she's way ahead and her oppenents are really making her look good but it's not her fault there's no serious competition. Her stand up though when performing is still middling and that's an area where she does have room for improvement but I'm not sure if she'll ever really be challenged as any possible opponent will likely be rushed and fed to her early or Ronda will disappear to hollywood for good. If there is someone out there they'll need to be another olympian type who lives to compete and dominate.
 
YES!!! Holmes beat Rousey!!

Amazing to see Rousey breakdown...I think once she realized she couldn't get Holmes onto the mat, she had a bit of a mental breakdown...just my opinion. Holmes looked so calm and collected.
 
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Jspear said:
YES!!! Holmes beat Rousey!!

Amazing to see Rousey breakdown...I think once she realized she couldn't get Holmes onto the mat, she had a bit of a mental breakdown...just my opinion. Holmes looked so calm and collected.
Worst title defense since Don King persuaded Mike Tyson to be Buster Douglas's punching bag. Rousey made little effort to take down Holmes, she was determined to prove a point by finishing it standing up. Unfortunately, her only strategy appeared to be letting Holmes beat her face until she'd burned out her arms. Her coach should be fired for not persuading her to follow a different strategy after the first round.

That's one of the great things about MMA compared to boxing. So many ways to lose, so few ways to win.