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[BroDeal]

I doubt the change of Wiggins to Sir Wiggo makes any real difference, though it did have the one advamtage in that it got BroDeal throthing at the mouth

Sounds like what happens to you when anyone mentions Wigans' or Froome's obvious doping.

 

[burning]

Looks like he didnt ninja-edited the title, sorry about that.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Bison. It isn't just the Sir, he also changed Wiggins to Wiggo. It was an attempt to make it less incendiary by making it about the Clinic persona more than about the actual person or something like that, but I'd say it backfired spectacularly.

amazing....

what other titles are up for editing?

 

[pedaling squares]

I doubt the change of Wiggins to Sir Wiggo makes any real difference...

Then why did you complain about the original title? It's not the differences of opinion and arguments that make this place nearly unbearable at times, it's the near-constant whining and unnecessary moderator reaction to that whining.

 

[sittingbison]

I explained why I edited the title. To depersonalise it from the person Bradley Wiggins to the post 2012 caricature "Sir Wiggo"...and I used ".." to emphasise that aspect. If BroDeal has a suggestion that would satisfy both he and I, please PM me I am happy to change it.

Because it's not about Bradley Wiggins, Contador, Sky, Froome etc per se. It's about the process of getting the spectacular result (presumeably by nefarious means) then flying under the radar. As such a guy like Froome should never enter the conversation given he is doing the exact opposite and stated he wants another 5 or so TdF wins.

FYI I had to delete something like 30 posts in a row because it had got so off track rabbiting on about Sky etc. If the actual intent is to discuss Bradley Wiggins doping, or Sky team based doping, or Froome doping etc etc I will close the thread and you can use the existing ones. However I think the purported intention of this thread is sound and should remain open if it sticks to said intention.

 

[King Boonen]

Time to see it disappear from the front page then.

 

[The Hitch]

Time to see it disappear from the front page then.

That's as much the fault of you lot as it is of the sceptics.

These discussions don't fuel themselves.
When I entered the discussion it was to adress some very poorly made arguments about how weak the fields allegedly were for every sky victory.

I also notice that the froome thread hasn't been going too well lately. And it's because no sky fans have been participating in it. So it dies. Not one of you had anything to say about the Brailsford 2011 comments and Tbh, nor would I if the man I looked to as the genius behind miracles with sport was caught talking crap like that.

Since none of you had the balls to respond, the thread died.

And same goes for all the sky threads. It's ridiculous to on the one hand participate ferociously in these threads and on the other to complain how much attention they are getting. Don't poor fuel onto a fire if you want it to die.

Duh.

 

[King Boonen]

That's as much the fault of you lot as it is of the sceptics.

Who are you lot?

 

[The Hitch]

Who are you lot?

The Sky fans/ defenders/ believers etc.

 

[pedaling squares]

Because it's not about Bradley Wiggins, Contador, Sky, Froome etc per se. It's about the process of getting the spectacular result (presumeably by nefarious means) then flying under the radar.

Yes, as with Bradley Wiggins. Of course it is about him to some degree if it is about his performances. Just what effect did changing the title have, other than to annoy the masses by way of unnecessary moderation? I've never understood the need for some moderators to always be pressing buttons and much prefer it when you act when needed. Changing a thread title is such a minor thing, but really what on earth was the point?

 

[King Boonen]

Fanboys vs haters, cynics vs believers, sceptics vs defenders.

And which one of those do I fall into?

 

[Netserk]

And which one of those do I fall into?

See his edit.

 

[King Boonen]

See his edit.

Ah ok, wrong but thanks for playing Hitch.

 

[Netserk]

Ah ok, wrong but thanks for playing Hitch.

I am his sockpuppet after all ;-)

 

[The Hitch]

Ah ok, wrong but thanks for playing Hitch.

To paraphrase from ASOIAF - "then I'm not a dwarf"

 

[sittingbison]

...Changing a thread title is such a minor thing, but really what on earth was the point?

the point is I was seriously considering closing the thread almost before it got started, because we need another Wiggins - Sky - Froome (take your pick) thread like a hole in the head.

However I understood the intention of thread to be not so much about them per se as about the nature of a sudden extraterrestrial performance with subsequent sudden drop in performance to whit making hay while the sun shines then flying under the radar. And I thought this was a topic worth discussing. I also didn't want the fans of Wiggins to despoil the thread whinging it is all about bashing their man, and as the thread derailed action was required.

So yes, I felt a minor change in the title was worthwhile. Pulling a "Sir Wiggo" has quite different connotations to Pulling a Wiggins.

As I said, if BroDeal wants a change then he can contact me via PM. I am open to suggestion.

 

[King Boonen]

To paraphrase from ASOIAF - "then I'm not a dwarf"

No idea what that is.

 

[BroDeal]

So yes, I felt a minor change in the title was worthwhile. Pulling a "Sir Wiggo" has quite different connotations to Pulling a Wiggins.

As I said, if BroDeal wants a change then he can contact me via PM. I am open to suggestion.

I don't want any "sir" or "Wiggo" in any post of mine. Here's a suggestion: Change it back to what I wrote. If you don't like it then you can close the thread and start one of your own with your own title.

 

[ElChingon]

I don't want any "sir" or "Wiggo" in any post of mine. Here's a suggestion: Change it back to what I wrote. If you don't like it then you can close the thread and start one of your own with your own title.

With the current title I take it to mean we can pull off any of Wiggo's type antics, let the Wiggo shenanigans commence

 

[BroDeal]

I'd just like to say to the mods, nice way of getting people to move to other forums. Guess if you can't get people to move out by sheer peer pressure moderating to get people to quit posting is another way.

If only there were an open thread, perhaps titled something like "This forum blows," where we could post suggestions for other forums to move to. It will soon be necessary; the Clinic has fallen below critical mass.

Maybe a simpler solution would be to ban Joe Papp--that scumbag!--and ask the original mods to come back.

PS, this sh!ttily moderated forum seems to be fcuked up on my iPad since a day or two ago. Maybe it is just me but I suspect CN's crack team of Internet incompetents is probably to blame.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Bringing back "This Forum Blows" and "Contador's Head" would be a fair trade for shutting down the "Sir Wiggo"......right?

 

[pedaling squares]

With the current title I take it to mean we can pull off any of Wiggo's type antics...

Whereas I thought it was a reference to a hand jibber.

 

[BroDeal]

Whereas I thought it was a reference to a hand jibber.

True story. In lieu of shaving, I was buzzing my legs with a Wahl clipper with no guard while sitting in the shower. I stood up with the clippers still on, was not paying attention, and my Sir Wiggo swung into the clippers. Hurt like hell and made a bloody mess.

 

[sittingbison]

.. my Sir Wiggo swung into the clippers. Hurt like hell and made a bloody mess.

Well in that case we certainly can't have a thread about Sir Wiggo only rising to the occasion with performance enhancing medication

I am happy to change the title, as I said in the thread I thought both the title and OP were quite clear although it does give the opportunity for fans to misinterpret it.

I will post a warning (once again) that the thread is not about Wiggins, Sky, Froome etc doping per se and references as such without paying attention to the actual topic will not be tolerated. Rather than me also editing your initial post to emphasize what the topic actually is, can you edit it yourself to make it clear.

It is a good thread, pertinent, and I don't want it to be either closed or spoiled by fighting between "fanbois" and "haters" (or anyone inbetween) about Sky and its riders.

And BroDeal, perhaps you should think twice before trying to tamper with moderators edits.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I find it interesting that a number of you should propose this. At least so far as I understand it, the feeling amongst mods lately has been that anything less than a week has no impact whatsoever. Perhaps we are wrong in this. But, I fail to see that if a poster finds it impossible to heed warnings delivered over a period of days and weeks, then that poster would likely not be deterred by a 24 hour hiatus.

There you have it. A penny. Heads on one side, tails on the other. Which side earns you the $.01?

Im baaaaack.


Hiero - I actually believe you are one of the best mods here - in fact you may get upgraded to best mod, if I knew what 'mods' are actually left here?
To save nitpicking the obvious reply - that list on the forum is not up to date.


You asked other Mods their opinion?? Sweet Jesus.
Lets be clear - there are a number of 'mods' here who do not have a clue what they are at.
They are using bans to banish a perceived problem or someone they do not like, nothing more.
These mods have no idea about what a forum is, or how it should be run.


As TheHitch noted - a 24 hour ban is perfect if someone needs to cool off. If they are persistent then it can be marginally increased.
Recently it has been noted that some posters have been 'perma banned' (almost with glee) - this is totally ridiculous and shows that some mods have lost the plot.