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[JRanton]

I don't think a 7k prologue this early in this season is a good indicator of doping/not doping in all honesty.

Yeah, I agree. Valverde was really pushing it in the technical sections so I don't find the result that surprising.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

No. Luckily we have plenty of other results that prove Movistar is a complete joke. The 2012 Tour had the effect that many of us feared.

Correct. Of course some of the newer fans believed this could be contained.
Lol.

 

[Graham_S]

No. Luckily we have plenty of other results that prove Movistar is a complete joke. The 2012 Tour had the effect that many of us feared.

I can understand results raising concerns, but they don't actually prove anything.

 

[EnacheV]

I think there is no anti-doping control for Valverde after this race. Or ?

As some people noticed, he just put 15 seconds over 7km in to Sir Bradley

 

[BigMac]

I think there is no anti-doping control for Valverde after this race. Or ?

As some people noticed, he just put 15 seconds over 7km in to Sir Bradley

Sir Brad was done with road cycling by the end of 2012.

Everything normal with Valverde's performance.


Valverde: ''Primera CRI con la nueva cabra; estreno inmejorable'' which by other words means, Canyon > Pinarello.

 

[EnacheV]

Sir Brad was done with road cycling by the end of 2012.

Everything normal with Valverde's performance.


Valverde: ''Primera CRI con la nueva cabra; estreno inmejorable'' which by other words means, Canyon > Pinarello.

damn, i didn't thought about motors in bikes, nice catch

i think this competes for the lamest doping excuses thread.

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

I think there is no anti-doping control for Valverde after this race. Or ?

As some people noticed, he just put 15 seconds over 7km in to Sir Bradley

Yeah or like that time when Cavendish won a 2km prologue with a few seconds. He would have won with more than a minute if it had been 50km

 

[EnacheV]

Yeah or like that time when Cavendish won a 2km prologue with a few seconds. He would have won with more than a minute if it had been 50km

The first of the moviborg breed ? welcome

 

[Afrank]

Valverde has always owned these smaller Spanish races. Take a look at his palmares. This is a guy who even with a 2 year gap has amassed more cq points or uci points than any other active rider and iirc more cq points than anyone since records began.

Nothing new.

Pretty much thought the same thing. Just take a look at the last couple years of just this race. Valverde's won the overall plus stages. Plus it's February, not everyone's in form quite yet.

Valverde probably doping of course, but today's in no way a giant red flag of it.

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

The first of the moviborg breed ? welcome

I have no illusions of Valverde being cleans, I just think you couldn't have picked a worse indication of his doping than this prologue.

 

[Rollthedice]

Valverde is at his level. Nothing to question here. Sir Brad on the other hand is not. No surprise, it's the first race of the season. I really don't see the point in this topic.

As for Movi as a team, it remains to be seen if they applied the same advanced science and hard work as Sky and become a real contender in races that matter.

 

[BigMac]

Valverde is at his level. Nothing to question here. Sir Brad on the other hand is not. No surprise, it's the first race of the season. I really don't see the point in this topic.

As for Movi as a team, it remains to be seen if they applied the same advanced science and hard work as Sky and become a real contender in races that matter.

This post speaks the truth.

 

[JRanton]

Valverde is at his level. Nothing to question here. Sir Brad on the other hand is not. No surprise, it's the first race of the season. I really don't see the point in this topic.

As for Movi as a team, it remains to be seen if they applied the same advanced science and hard work as Sky and become a real contender in races that matter.

Well they've been doing something right given that they won the World Tour last year and had strong performances in the grand tours. Dowsett said in an interview that he kept hearing the word ''Sky'' during last year's Movistar training camps and team meetings.

Brailsford has hinted in some recent interviews that other teams have caught up with them.

 

[EnacheV]

Valverde is at his level. Nothing to question here. Sir Brad on the other hand is not. No surprise, it's the first race of the season. I really don't see the point in this topic.

how do you know valverde is at his level and wiggins is not ? you have a crystal ball ?

Idk, some climber putting 15 secs over a 7km prologue in to Wiggins seems to me like an extremely ridiculous thing. No matter at what levels they are.

 

[BigMac]

how do you know valverde is at his level and wiggins is not ? you have a crystal ball ?

Idk, some climber putting 15 secs over a 7km prologue in to Wiggins seems to me like an extremely ridiculous thing. No matter at what levels they are.

What? Froome is a climber too, and guess what, he's a beast time trialist. Valverde isn't, but he is a decent time trialist.

To the bolded, I can only say: Precisely, it is just 7k!

 

[EnacheV]

Now i remember the ITT and GC destruction in San Luis early this year.

2014 will be the first year, after a long time, when a team wins 2+ GT's, and it won't be Sky

 

[Netserk]

Now i remember the ITT and GC destruction in San Luis early this year.

2014 will be the first year when a team wins 2+ GT's, and it won't be Sky

You mean since 2010?

 

[hfer07]

Valverde is at his level. Nothing to question here. Sir Brad on the other hand is not. No surprise, it's the first race of the season. I really don't see the point in this topic.

As for Movi as a team, it remains to be seen if they applied the same advanced science and hard work as Sky and become a real contender in races that matter.

^^^^^This^^^^^

 

[EnacheV]

You mean since 2010?

i added, "after a long time" and 2010 TdF winner is not Contador, so it goes back a little longer since one team wins 2 gt's.

 

[Netserk]

i added, "after a long time" and 2010 TdF winner is not Contador, so it goes back a little longer since one team wins 2 gt's.

Who won the Giro and who won the Vuelta that year?

 

[the sceptic]

Now i remember the ITT and GC destruction in San Luis early this year.

2014 will be the first year, after a long time, when a team wins 2+ GT's, and it won't be Sky

A good year for clean cycling then.

 

[EnacheV]

Who won the Giro and who won the Vuelta that year?

damn you are right. somehow i'm thinking to much about TdF and to little about the other 2.

 

[EnacheV]

Mikkel Condé v2.0 @mrconde
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You know Valverde is flying when he puts in 14 sec on Wiggins in a flat prologue, just coming off "some days with high fever after Dubai".

 

[the sceptic]

Mikkel Condé v2.0 @mrconde
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You know Valverde is flying when he puts in 14 sec on Wiggins in a flat prologue, just coming off "some days with high fever after Dubai".

no one thinks Valverde is clean.

now, maybe you could explain how this uberdoper Valverde got destroyed so badly by the clean Froome in the tour last year?

 

[EnacheV]

no one thinks Valverde is clean.

now, maybe you could explain how this uberdoper Valverde got destroyed so badly by the clean Froome in the tour last year?

idk how doped was valverde last year

for sure he didn't obliterate people in flat TT's last year so i guess he wasnt doping so hard.