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[auscyclefan94]

Best Aussie band is Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.

Just had a listen, anything in particular that you like about their music? Can't say I really like it. Bit weird... Have you listened to much australian music?

 

[auscyclefan94]

Feeling Good - muse, was on the radio. Seriously way to butcher an awesome song! Anyone else heard this version?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Just had a listen, anything in particular that you like about their music? Can't say I really like it. Bit weird... Have you listened to much australian music?

Nick Cave is VERY eclectic. The Birthday Party were a very off-kilter, deranged, sleazy and more than slightly crazy post-punk band. Then he started his own band. It started off being like evil, dark and raw blues, and slowly developed in sound. He was able to write some great ballads, in all senses (story songs, and slow, soft songs). A fascination with grim folk tales, and a great lyrical touch really sets him apart from most of his peers.

For an indication of the way his sound has developed, here's a few examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5I2vEcVC_I&feature=related
The Birthday Party "Nick The Stripper", 1981 - sleazy, dark, sinister.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OccHxBWcE4
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Your Funeral, My Trial", ca.1985 - balladeering, murderous, wistful, folk-tinged.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahr4KFl79WI
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "The Mercy Seat", 1988 - epic, driving, pulsating song about a condemned man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thHx7cdoaAc
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Weeping Song", 1990 - evil cabaret.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDpnjE1LUvE
Nick Cave and Kylie Minogue "Where The Wild Roses Grow", 1996 - romantic yet sinister duet between corpse and killer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuDP7c3Zd8I
Grinderman "No Pussy Blues", 2007 - furious, tense, angry blues-rocking.



What makes Nick Cave great is that he manages to combine music from all kinds of deadbeat, outsider groups; he sings the stories of prisoners, carnies, criminals and drunks; he is able to combine having the founder member of German industrial noise-terrorists Einstürzende Neubauten alongside a member of atmospheric Australian instrumental balladeers Dirty Three in his band; he stays true to the music of the past with blues, ballad and folk inflections, yet creates something unflinchingly modern and uncompromising. Always dark, usually sinister, he always seems to want to hark back to the days when Australia was a wild and dangerous place (as seen in his film The Proposition). And he's a brilliant lyricist who's willing to push the boundaries of what's acceptable (his cover of Stagger Lee turns the card-playing, gun-toting baddie into an unrepentant, womanising monster forcing people to perform unspeakable acts at gunpoint), ties things down with black humour, you can always imagine him with a sick, evil grin on his face.


I know quite a few Aussie bands. Some I like, like Dead Can Dance, the Triffids (or are they kiwis? I think they're Aussies), others I don't.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Nick Cave is VERY eclectic. The Birthday Party were a very off-kilter, deranged, sleazy and more than slightly crazy post-punk band. Then he started his own band. It started off being like evil, dark and raw blues, and slowly developed in sound. He was able to write some great ballads, in all senses (story songs, and slow, soft songs). A fascination with grim folk tales, and a great lyrical touch really sets him apart from most of his peers.

For an indication of the way his sound has developed, here's a few examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5I2vEcVC_I&feature=related
The Birthday Party "Nick The Stripper", 1981 - sleazy, dark, sinister.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OccHxBWcE4
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Your Funeral, My Trial", ca.1985 - balladeering, murderous, wistful, folk-tinged.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahr4KFl79WI
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "The Mercy Seat", 1988 - epic, driving, pulsating song about a condemned man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thHx7cdoaAc
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Weeping Song", 1990 - evil cabaret.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDpnjE1LUvE
Nick Cave and Kylie Minogue "Where The Wild Roses Grow", 1996 - romantic yet sinister duet between corpse and killer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuDP7c3Zd8I
Grinderman "No Pussy Blues", 2007 - furious, tense, angry blues-rocking.



What makes Nick Cave great is that he manages to combine music from all kinds of deadbeat, outsider groups; he sings the stories of prisoners, carnies, criminals and drunks; he is able to combine having the founder member of German industrial noise-terrorists Einstürzende Neubauten alongside a member of atmospheric Australian instrumental balladeers Dirty Three in his band; he stays true to the music of the past with blues, ballad and folk inflections, yet creates something unflinchingly modern and uncompromising. Always dark, usually sinister, he always seems to want to hark back to the days when Australia was a wild and dangerous place (as seen in his film The Proposition). And he's a brilliant lyricist who's willing to push the boundaries of what's acceptable (his cover of Stagger Lee turns the card-playing, gun-toting baddie into an unrepentant, womanising monster forcing people to perform unspeakable acts at gunpoint), ties things down with black humour, you can always imagine him with a sick, evil grin on his face.


I know quite a few Aussie bands. Some I like, like Dead Can Dance, the Triffids (or are they kiwis? I think they're Aussies), others I don't.

Definetly Alternative Rock, can't say I really like it. Obviously his music is for more for a target market as it isn't really commercialised mainstream music.

If you want some great aussie msuic then type in a recently retired bad called powderfinger. A lot of meaningful deep songs which did quite well but also do some more heavier rock music which is also really good.

One of the most successful acts in Australia of the past 20 years.

 

[The Hitch]

Just had a listen, anything in particular that you like about their music? Can't say I really like it. Bit weird... Have you listened to much australian music?

The best nick cave song like anyone who appeared on "im your fan" is a leonard cohen cover.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duv1MxvXYck


I also like the song from Shrek. It came soon after a Tom Waits song as i recall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdoBzzc8hU8

 

[The Hitch]

Well, they can hardly sing and the lyrics are a bit of an embarrassment:

I mean, wow.

I have no problem with simple songwriting (after all, my "genre of choice" is punk rock), but los Fresones Rebeldes... Come on! I admit they're ridiculously catchy and "Al amanecer" is part of the sountrack of my teen years, but still.

edit: also, curse you! Now I'll have to listen to it at least 10 times in a row.
edit 2: I think I'm in love with the bassist.

mmm so your a punk guy.

Question then, do you know of any Spanish bands from this genre you could reccomend? Ive been listening to nothing but Spanish music for the last 4 months or so, in order to improve it, but the only link i have is some soft pop station called Cadena Dial.

Would you maybe classify el canto del loco as being part of this? You know of some other bands of the variety, maybe slightly more hardcore, though at the same time not ott?

 

[hrotha]

mmm so your a punk guy.

Question then, do you know of any Spanish bands from this genre you could reccomend? Ive been listening to nothing but Spanish music for the last 4 months or so, in order to improve it, but the only link i have is some soft pop station called Cadena Dial.

Would you maybe classify el canto del loco as being part of this? You know of some other bands of the variety, maybe slightly more hardcore, though at the same time not ott?

Gah, El Canto del Loco? They're ultra-commercial pop rock. Not punk in any way. Nothing you'll ever hear on Cadena Dial will be even remotely close to punk.

From what you say, you want pop punk, right? A band you might like is Airbag. They are mostly pop punk, but they also have some surf thrown in for good measure, and many simple pop tunes (especially in their last album, "Alto disco").
Airbag - Territorio Dagger

Los Punsetes aren't punk, they're a pop band, but their guitar playing is influenced by punk bands (similar to some other bands Libertine was talking about a while ago).
Los Punsetes - Pinta de tarao

The thing is, I don't listen to any of the more traditional Spanish punk bands (Reincidentes, Boikot, La Polla, El Último Ke Zierre, or newer bands in that vein, like Lendakaris Muertos), so to illustrate the harder sound you probably won't like I'm going to use Soziedad Alkoholika. They're hardcore punk/metal, but I'm going to post one of their more punk sounding songs:
Soziedad Alkoholika - La aventura del saber

 

[The Hitch]

From what you say, you want pop punk, right?

Well rock and punk sort of thing. To be honest im not that good at classifying these things into genres. When you said punk i thought you meant something like green day, and i meant that sort of thing. Also perhaps more of the modern rock things, eg killers, muse, kaiser chiefs.

And Cadena Dial was the only Spanish only station i found. Well there was something called rtva canal fiesta radio but that was only andalucia

 

[sublimit]

I've been playing Blowout - Radiohead quite a lot recently.

I cant track down the original Ventolin video by Aphex twin, its very good track. yet another music video unavailable on youtube due to greedy moneymakers.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Best Aussie band is Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.

Not IMO. IMO, best Aussie band, maybe of all-time, is AC/DC. Here's one kick a$$ tune to get you pumped:
AC/DC - Thuderstruck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnT9h8mKGUo

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

While on the military video theme, here's another entertaining vid with background music by one of my favs...
P.O.D. - Boom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMzuzMD6eF4
the end of the vid gives credit to the machines

 

[rhubroma]

I enjoy different genres from traditional rock - back in the 80's U2, the Cure, REM, etc. were some of the prefered groups - to what I now often listen to in the way of Brasilian, Cuban, Greek and Turkish music.

Once in Istanbul I came across this great street band in the rather bohemian Galata Tower quarter across the Bospherous and they were just incredible. Arabic wails with rock and folk accents.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Not IMO. IMO, best Aussie band, maybe of all-time, is AC/DC. Here's one kick a$$ tune to get you pumped:
AC/DC - Thuderstruck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnT9h8mKGUo

Pah, once you've heard one AC/DC record you've heard them all. Do they write great riffs? Sure. Are they a great band to get you in the mood to party? Sure. Have they been doing the same thing for 30+ years now? Yes. Would I stick one of their records on out of choice when I want some classic rocking out? No.

 

[mortand]

Best Aussie band:

The Go-Betweens!

The Lucksmiths are the second best Australian band, and Dead Can Dance number three (if they count as an Australian band).

But to be fair, I've probably got about 10 Australian artists in my collection, and the majority is somehow related to Go-Betweens or The Bad Seeds, so I haven't got too many to choose from.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Pah, once you've heard one AC/DC record you've heard them all. Do they write great riffs? Sure. Are they a great band to get you in the mood to party? Sure. Have they been doing the same thing for 30+ years now? Yes. Would I stick one of their records on out of choice when I want some classic rocking out? No.

HaHa. You have a point with heard one heard all. That was typical of bands of the 70's. Except Zeppelin, who managed to evolve over the years, which is one reason I admired them. Of newer genre, The Killers manages a different theme for every new album to avoid that trap.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I think only really gets people going if everyone has "had a few".

 

[TexPat]

Best Aussie band is Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.

Without a doubt.
Funny how the talent is missed by the locals as is so often the case.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Without a doubt.
Funny how the talent is missed by the locals as is so often the case.

Of there 14 studio albums they did nothing in Australia, can't say I had ever heard of them. Didn't like it. Why do you like them?

 

[hrotha]

The best Australian bands (i.e. Australians bands I like the most - but this won't keep me from presenting my personal tastes as objective truth) are Architecture in Helsinki, Mutiny and Fear Like Us.

Well rock and punk sort of thing. To be honest im not that good at classifying these things into genres. When you said punk i thought you meant something like green day, and i meant that sort of thing. Also perhaps more of the modern rock things, eg killers, muse, kaiser chiefs

Green Day are pop punk for the most part, so you might like Airbag after all - they're quite poppy at times. I don't really listen to any Spanish bands even remotely similar to Muse and the others.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Of there 14 studio albums they did nothing in Australia, can't say I had ever heard of them. Didn't like it. Why do you like them?

The Birthday Party were either hated or completely ignored in Australia and so travelled to Britain to take part in punk, only to find they were a bit late and synthpop and stuff like that was taking over, which made them pretty annoyed and weirded out.

Nick Cave joins a large group of people like Jimi Hendrix and the Pixies who've been very obscure in their own countries, then the Brits have gone nuts for them.

Cave is popular because he is just a great songwriter; great lyrics, and an ear for music's traditions and history whilst retaining a touch of originality. He's able to reconcile a huge number of influences and inspirations and create cohesive albums; he's mostly quite dark and miserable, but infuses his work with a black sense of humour that adds extra layers of depth to his work.

 

[simo1733]

They're not bad, dont really like Garrett tbh. Like listetning to good aussie bands such as silverchair & powderfinger.

I like Lostep, they are an Aussie band.Burma is a great tune.Not your sort of thing though i fear

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

John Lennon - Happy xmas (war is over)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8jw-ifqwkM

 

[Finbouy]

Bebe........

 

[The Hitch]

Bebe........

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[auscyclefan94]

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Justin Bieber?! another good Australian band that I would suggest for you to have a listen to it the John Butler Trio.

John Butler Trio - Revolution One of the great singer-songwritesr going around.