Quintana has more talent in his left food than Bardet has in his whole body.
He was the best climber in the world between 2013 and 2017
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He was the best climber in the world between 2013 and 2017
It does not depend on your perception or mine. Of course He does not stand a chance IMHO. The only thing that matters is how other people view it. Especially in certain markets around the world.
Doesn't have to be the selling point though. Through the late 2000s and early 2010s plenty of "veteran swansong hopes" were pretty significant stories at the Giro, from Garzelli's pursuit of the GPM in 2009 and 2011, Simoni's forlorn hope to go out on top in 2010, Nibali and Pozzovivo keeping the hopes of the tifosi alive in their dog days in 2022, Cunego hunting the GPM in 2016, Scarponi searching for a redemption arc in 2009 and 2010, di Luca's attempts to weasel back into the good graces in his mid-30s with Katyusha, Acqua e Sapone and eventually flying too close to the sun with Vini Fantini...
Now, at the same time, pretty much all of those are to do with Italian riders and home hopes, so it remains to be seen whether a redemption arc for Nairoman would get the same kind of response from the fans and the media.
Probably better than Froome without salbutamol in his system.
And while it wasn't really a pre-race selling point, Uran and Henao launching the Colombian revival in 2012 turned out to be quite a significant story.
A big Quintana comeback story would definitely create some more interest around the Giro for us Giro romantics, considering the rather dreadful past few editions we've had.
A big Quintana comeback story would definitely create some more interest around the Giro for us Giro romantics, considering the rather dreadful past few editions we've had.
Yes, but all that hope has faded and this would simply be a reminder of promise undelivered.
Just you wait until the actual fisherman makes his way to Europe to usurp the Danish pretender!
I think that there is a bunch of sock puppet conversation going on.. You would have to assume that Nario was on the phone asking advice from Valverde..probably down to what do you eat for breakfast, what time do you go to bed? And also bold presumptions about his ego and the real world the Movistar management lives and works in. Lots of these posts are written as if Movistar is signing Quintana as a leader or the leader instead of a guy that can give you dozens of great race days..just maybe not in a row or 3 weeks at a time. Nario on the exact opposite career trajectory as Sepp Kuss and if both racers are managed by people who bridle their expectations everything is going to be fine. If Quintana rolls off the front what do you do as a director of another team? Give no respect.. He is old he will pop 10k from now or say the old guy still has some juice and send riders to cover his moves? All the posts that paint him as a doped up old slob are little over the top in my opinion..
The context was riders versus Froome. Bardet 2nd and 3rd to him as Quintana was 2nd & 3rd so in the sports biggest race v Froome I'd say their results are about equal.
Problem with Quintana is he's a strong rider, but a loner in a sport that epitomises the importance of not being a loner in a team.
It's not a doping accusation or even inaccurate - it actually happened, so simply reality. UCI banned it, he took it twice and tested positive and had his results nulled.
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Not really. The OP stated against Froome in the Sky era so assume he's talking Le Tour primarily as that's mostly where Quintana raced against Froome. As above, Bardet 2nd & 3rd and Quintana 2nd & 3rd to Froome in that era.
You are going to have to post a link to the survey.. He may have been voted most likely to get a job as a garden gnome after bike racing or modeling children's clothing..Quintana was voted most attractive rider at the 2013 Tour de France, because of his shy smile!
I agree, hence why he always had his brother and Anacona around as a security blanket. Kind of like Sagan with his brother and Oss, perhaps.
Also, and this is just my impression, could be totally wrong, but he seems a little, maybe "simple" is too strong a word, naive. To put your french team in jeopardy at the Tour twice in a row for doping-adjacent activities is a really bad look. (and what exactly happened in 2021 anyway?)
I'm actually a big fan of his riding, and despite all the noise he's had a productive career.
I remember when Quintana was called the Next Ullrich after being the youngest rider on the Tour podium in decades. Then Bardet came along and everyone called him the First Evenepoel. Only a decade ago but seems like another lifetime.
Those two are not comparable at all. Quintana is an actual GT winner and was a major threat to Froome when Froome was in his prime. When Bardet podiumed, he faced a weaker Froome and was still nowhere near.
Quintana beat froome to won la vuelta you mug
I'm happy to see NQ back. I'm not expecting fireworks, but it will be great to see him, hopefully, in very decent shape, up at the pointy end of the peloton.
Nairito is back!
Don't suspect a revival of his best form or anything, but at this point Movistar need to make some dice rolls. Who knows maybe Nairo has learned some lessons while away and is ready to work harder or be more clever about how he works.
I am gonna be very generous here and presume Movistar has seen him be really serious about his training in his off period.
Don't suspect a revival of his best form or anything, but at this point Movistar need to make some dice rolls. Who knows maybe Nairo has learned some lessons while away and is ready to work harder or be more clever about how he works.
I am gonna be very generous here and presume Movistar has seen him be really serious about his training in his off period.
And again the context was Froome & his Tour era. Bardet only raced La Vuelta once v Froome in 2017 and never against Quintana who wasn't there anyway, so impossible to judge performance relatively. The only races in Froomes era 'they all' targeted was Le Tour so the context stands. They are on equal finishing spots v Froome in Froome's era. Le Tour is the only race you can really use to judge these 3 riders because Vuelta & Giro were not priority races for even Froome in his era and definitely not Bardet who's only raced it three times his entire career.
As for name calling - grow up you little child, no need for that nonsense here if you want to make a point, make it!
Quintana:
2013: 2nd, +4'20" (1 stage win, KOM and BYR)
2015: 2nd, +1'12" (BYR)
2016: 3rd, +4'21"
Bardet:
2016: 2nd, +4'05" (1 stage win)
2017: 3rd, +2'20"
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