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cineteq

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Valverde knows how strong Quintana is in the longer climbs. Quintana losing 10-15 seconds wasn't surprising at all. It's basically what I expected.
 
Forunculo

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The problem is there isn't long climbs in Vuelta like we see at Tour and Giro.

And the same can be applied for Contador and Froome. Not a good day at all for Nairo.
 
Marco Pantani

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Forunculo said:
The problem is there isn't long climbs in Vuelta like we see at Tour and Giro.

And the same can be applied for Contador and Froome. Not a good day at all for Nairo.
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I'm convinced the climbs to come will be long enough for him to create the necessary gaps. After the long resting period, his form will rise from day to day.

It will be a spectacular fight for sure.
 
Escarabajo

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Futuroscope said:
Valverde knows how strong Quintana is in the longer climbs. Quintana losing 10-15 seconds wasn't surprising at all. It's basically what I expected.
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You could be right, but I was a little surprised that he was distanced.

In the last two GT's he has been the best during the last (3rd) week. Let's wait and see. Hope everything is fine with him.
 
sir fly

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An insignificant deficit today, I think. The more important fact is that Valverde was working for him until Purito attacked. Looks like the team hierarchy in Movistar is defined.
For me, he's still the main favorite. The third week should be spectacular since all the most serious contenders should reach their peak by then.
 
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damian13ster

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Valverde is not going to work for him now. Not in the leader's jersey (and why would he since he is not the one who cracked despite doing all the work?)
Quintana might be better in third week, and Alejandro might be diplomatic in interviews, but he is not a domestique at this point.

Hell, he worked for Nairo showing class, being just few seconds back in GC and despite that he still passed him in overall standings. Why wouldnt it work the other way now until situation in standing reverses once more? (of course if Valverde drops then no waiting for him, I mean setting the pace)
 
yespatterns

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damian13ster said:
Valverde is not going to work for him now. Not in the leader's jersey (and why would he since he is not the one who cracked despite doing all the work?)
Quintana might be better in third week, and Alejandro might be diplomatic in interviews, but he is not a domestique at this point.

Hell, he worked for Nairo showing class, being just few seconds back in GC and despite that he still passed him in overall standings. Why wouldnt it work the other way now until situation in standing reverses once more? (of course if Valverde drops then no waiting for him, I mean setting the pace)
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Go easy, Piti wont hold form, Quintana is content with th current Movistar 1-2. Big team win. When Piti can't do what he's doing now (which WILL happen) Nairo, will do his thing. They both seem to be team players.
 
ILovecycling

ILovecycling

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about nairo, it's best to wait for farrapona and and the third week mainly. he was talking to valverde today and in my opnion he gave him the green light to go for the stage win.

i never expected nairo to win this anyway. if he wins the vuelta, it will be in the third week not now
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interesting,you might be right,I have to check it again,this time in hd.


I didnt expect him to lose more than 10s on the explosive winner (murito,bala),but it is not crucial.Those accelerations were to fast for him probably,but yeah,I have to check it again.
 
Rollthedice

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damian13ster said:
Valverde is not going to work for him now. Not in the leader's jersey (and why would he since he is not the one who cracked despite doing all the work?)
Quintana might be better in third week, and Alejandro might be diplomatic in interviews, but he is not a domestique at this point.

Hell, he worked for Nairo showing class, being just few seconds back in GC and despite that he still passed him in overall standings. Why wouldnt it work the other way now until situation in standing reverses once more? (of course if Valverde drops then no waiting for him, I mean setting the pace)
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It's whoever is stronger policy. Seems obvious for Movistar and this is how it should be. Valverde might fade away while Quintana might grow stronger by the third week. "Day by day" as they say.
 
Red Rick

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Quintana is the purest climber in the peloton. The harder, higher and longer, the better. Problem is that there's no altitude and little long climbs to be found. There are only 2 mountain stages that are really suited to Quintana, the competition is a lot tougher than in the Giro, so I don't see him throwing minutes at everybody. He has limited opportunities to gain time on everyone, so he can't exactly afford losing additional time in the mountains.

I didn't expect him murder everyone, but I also didn't expect him to get dropped by 4 others.

I wonder what Ryo thinks
 
ILovecycling

ILovecycling

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Red Rick said:
Quintana is the purest climber in the peloton. The harder, higher and longer, the better. Problem is that there's no altitude and little long climbs to be found. There are only 2 mountain stages that are really suited to Quintana, the competition is a lot tougher than in the Giro, so I don't see him throwing minutes at everybody. He has limited opportunities to gain time on everyone, so he can't exactly afford losing additional time in the mountains.

I didn't expect him murder everyone, but I also didn't expect him to get dropped by 4 others.

I wonder what Ryo thinks
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I think the problem names are Froome and Contador.Likes of Aru,Valverde,Rodriguez,those he will crack them bad at some point and Chaves won't ride against him,but AC and CF are real deals!
Crucial will be not to lose (fvcking boni seconds:mad:) time in stage 9 and TT.He needs to limit losses to a 1.15 to Froome in TT.I dont know about Alberto,he should limit it to 45secs to him,cuz I feel it might be very hard to drop him in 2nd week.Impossible in 3rd,as imo they'll be almost equal in mountains and Nairo doesnt have a punch to drop him,only pace.
He can make damage in stages 16,20 + maybe even Lagos (st 14 iirc), but will it be enough?
Contador clearly is his biggest rival now,if dawg won't put more than a 1.15 to him in that TT of course.
 
Ryo Hazuki

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Red Rick said:
Quintana is the purest climber in the peloton. The harder, higher and longer, the better. Problem is that there's no altitude and little long climbs to be found. There are only 2 mountain stages that are really suited to Quintana, the competition is a lot tougher than in the Giro, so I don't see him throwing minutes at everybody. He has limited opportunities to gain time on everyone, so he can't exactly afford losing additional time in the mountains.

I didn't expect him murder everyone, but I also didn't expect him to get dropped by 4 others.

I wonder what Ryo thinks
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quitnana has problems with handling the heat. just remember vuelta 2012 where he wa snowhere in first 2 weeks because of the heat. he needs adaptation time and in general colder temperatures to be at his best. even if ysterdays climb being just 4 km isn't quited to him. I'm sure he was content with how he performed yesterday
 
ILovecycling

ILovecycling

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yep,he mentioned it few times.it does make sense as he is from boyaca,so he needs mild tempretarus and humidity,thats his advantage.
I just checked weather for stage 9 and it looks like it should be warm about 28 degrees but with rain,that should be a whole lot better :cool:

otoh do you think these losses are crucial for his battle with Contador and Froome?
I mean he cant lose any more time. (will depend on his tt)
 
Maaaaaaaarten

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I remember Lagos de Covadonga in 2012 where he was climbing with Valverde, Rodriguez and Contador as a neo pro working for Valverde. Quite a bit ahead of Froome, but of course Froome wasn't in his best shape at that point.

Lagos de Covadonga will be a massacre by Quintana. :)
 
cineteq

cineteq

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Ryo Hazuki said:
he's from a region where temperature never goes over 13 degrees
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Just look at °C max

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http://es.climate-data.org/location/5328/
 
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Maaaaaaaarten said:
I remember Lagos de Covadonga in 2012 where he was climbing with Valverde, Rodriguez and Contador as a neo pro working for Valverde. Quite a bit ahead of Froome, but of course Froome wasn't in his best shape at that point.

Lagos de Covadonga will be a massacre by Quintana. :)
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After the ITT he might realise he can't wait to start the massacre in Covadonga and needs to put the hammer down just the day after in San Miguel de Aralar
 
trevim

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That doesn't mean anything: in the Summer I usually ride with 30º or 40º and I still perform better in the rare cold and wet conditions rather than the really hot days.
Nairo seems better in the cold though.
 
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