Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[Czapiewski]

Quintana is killing this sport, try to imagine him winning for a few years, it would less popular than curling...

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Quintana is killing this sport, try to imagine him winning for a few years, it would less popular than curling...

I don't get the impression that he is the most interesting person indeed. Great rider though, and with a couple of Pantani rides he will be popular enough

 

[Stromeon]

Way more interesting person than Froome though...

The problem with Nairo is that he's very shy by nature and so I can understand he might be a little hard to connect with because he doesn't really say much, unlike Contador etc but to say he is 'killing the sport'? I honestly don't know what to say to that ridiculous idea.

 

[peloton]

Quintana is killing this sport, try to imagine him winning for a few years, it would less popular than curling...

What a load of nonsense.

 

[ILovecycling]

Quintana is killing this sport, try to imagine him winning for a few years, it would less popular than curling...

actually some of his interviews in spanish are very interesting.

 

[cineteq]

Quintana: "Should I lose any time, it’s obvious that it will be because they’re better specialists than me on time trialling. I don’t think I’ll lose much, though"

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/09/v...-lose-time-in-the-time-trial-it-wont-be-much/

 

[Escarabajo]

Quintana should be very strong on Covadonga, Farrapona and Ancares. But the question is how much time he will lose in the TT (especially to Contador and Froome maybe). It could be something about a minute. If so he will have problems with catching Contador.

LOL.

Are you friends with damian13ster?

Or did Quintana trash your idol in the mountains?

It has to be something.

 

[Escarabajo]

Quintana is killing this sport, try to imagine him winning for a few years, it would less popular than curling...

LOL.

Are you friends with damian13ster?

Or did Quintana beat your idol in the mountains?

It has to be something.

 

[damian13ster]

LOL.

Are you friends with damian13ster?

Or did Quintana beat your idol in the mountains?

It has to be something.

Ouch, nice shots.
I dont agree with original statement. Any sport discipline would be hard to get less exciting than curling, and Quintana isnt going to change that (although female Swedish curlers might )
But it is true. I dont like the guy.
Its hard to like him since he wheelsucks more than any serious GT contender, and with such a climbing talent......
From what I heard, the only time he actually attacked this Vuelta was when Froome fell. And I am sure nobody believes BS that it was an attack from 130k out, or that he is the one that would be trying to break down the peleton instead of his teammates. It looks like its just his nature. Whenever his rivals have some misfortune (Froomes fall)/stop racing (Giro), he decides to go full gas.
Hardly a likeable trait.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Ouch, nice shots.
I dont agree with original statement. Any sport discipline would be hard to get less exciting than curling, and Quintana isnt going to change that (although female Swedish curlers might )
But it is true. I dont like the guy.
Its hard to like him since he wheelsucks more than any serious GT contender, and with such a climbing talent......
From what I heard, the only time he actually attacked this Vuelta was when Froome fell. And I am sure nobody believes BS that it was an attack from 130k out, or that he is the one that would be trying to break down the peleton instead of his teammates. It looks like its just his nature. Whenever his rivals have some misfortune (Froomes fall)/stop racing (Giro), he decides to go full gas.
Hardly a likeable trait.

this is so much bs. when does quintana ever wheelsuck? just few days ago contador attacked and the only favorite to attack then was quintana.

 

[LaFlorecita]

this is so much bs. when does quintana ever wheelsuck? just few days ago contador attacked and the only favorite to attack then was quintana.

And then he wheelsucked Rodriguez all the way to the finish.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

And then he wheelsucked Rodriguez all the way to the finish.

ugghhh sometimnes it's so f'n annoying reading people who don;'t understand jack**** this was an explosive final. quintana is completley UNexplosive. quintana had to do all he can to just follow purito's wheel. that's not wheelsucking. purito nealry dropped him.

 

[LaFlorecita]

ugghhh sometimnes it's so f'n annoying reading people who don;'t understand jack**** this was an explosive final. quintana is completley UNexplosive. quintana had to do all he can to just follow purito's wheel. that's not wheelsucking. purito nealry dropped him.

okay

 

[Arnout]

Ouch, nice shots.
I dont agree with original statement. Any sport discipline would be hard to get less exciting than curling, and Quintana isnt going to change that (although female Swedish curlers might )
But it is true. I dont like the guy.
Its hard to like him since he wheelsucks more than any serious GT contender, and with such a climbing talent......
From what I heard, the only time he actually attacked this Vuelta was when Froome fell. And I am sure nobody believes BS that it was an attack from 130k out, or that he is the one that would be trying to break down the peleton instead of his teammates. It looks like its just his nature. Whenever his rivals have some misfortune (Froomes fall)/stop racing (Giro), he decides to go full gas.
Hardly a likeable trait.

I stopped reading at "From what I heard".

 

[hrotha]

Some people try to convince themselves Quintana is some sort of reincarnated Pantani, when all evidence suggests he's extremely conservative and definitely not above wheelsucking with some frequency.

 

[Netserk]

this is so much bs. when does quintana ever wheelsuck? just few days ago contador attacked and the only favorite to attack then was quintana.

Oropa .

 

[ILovecycling]

Some people try to convince themselves Quintana is some sort of reincarnated Pantani, when all evidence suggests he's extremely conservative and definitely not above wheelsucking with some frequency.

If he will be ever as dominant climber as pantani,he will attack a lot more.Dou you think pantani would have attack 20 km away if he had competition like froome or contador ,hell know,his competition was way worse than him.


And also wait for 3rd week.

 

[hrotha]

If he will be ever as dominant climber as pantani,he will attack a lot more.Dou you think pantani would have attack 20 km away if he had competition like froome or contador ,hell know,his competition was way worse than him.


And also wait for 3rd week.

Pantani competed against Ullrich, for example. And plenty of riders who aren't as dominant are a lot more attacking. See Contador at the 2012 Vuelta, or hell, Pantani in 1994-1997 when he wasn't dominant yet (as a climber, he was, at certain points in that timeline; but not as a GC rider).

And regardless, there's plenty of room between "always attacking no matter what" and "just following wheels". Quintana falls somewhere in the middle, but decidedly closer to the latter extreme point.

I just don't understand this need to paint every aspect of Quintana's riding in an extremely positive light.

 

[ILovecycling]

Pantani competed against Ullrich, for example. And plenty of riders who aren't as dominant are a lot more attacking. See Contador at the 2012 Vuelta, or hell, Pantani in 1994-1997 when he wasn't dominant yet (as a climber, he was, at certain points in that timeline; but not as a GC rider).

And regardless, there's plenty of room between "always attacking no matter what" and "just following wheels". Quintana falls somewhere in the middle, but decidedly closer to the latter extreme point.

I just don't understand this need to paint every aspect of Quintana's riding in an extremely positive light.

Its not,everybody is bad in somrthing,but I just think its not the later.just look at tour 13 or burgos,giro is an example for you. Ut as we know he was ill till 3rd week.

But Quintana is a special sort of gc rider who imo conservates energy during first and second week,to be very good in 3rd.Its raher strange nobody really does that,interesting..

 

[Stromeon]

If he wants to save energy (eg in relatively early MTFs like Oropa and Sunday) then he saves energy, but if he doesn't, he doesn't. He's not going to launch huge attacks on every MTF right from the beginning, otherwise you end up with Froome 2013 syndrome and fade at the end, and he doesn't have the TT cushion that Froome does, so it would be a rather unwise strategy. Just wait until the final week and then pass judgement on whether he's a wheelsucker (ugh... hate that word) or not. So far in this discussion we've come up with 1.5 examples from 3 GTs - definitely enough evidence to label him as this

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

if you think quintana rides conservaitly you must've been sitting under a rock during the tour 2013

 

[hrotha]

if you think quintana rides conservaitly you must've been sitting under a rock during the tour 2013

When he attacked, he was preparing the ground for Valverde, who was still the team leader at the time.

 

[Angliru]

Quintana is killing this sport, try to imagine him winning for a few years, it would less popular than curling...

Okay. Thank you for your (non) contribution to the discussion.

 

[Angliru]

And then he wheelsucked Rodriguez all the way to the finish.

His teammate was in red, his option was to help distance his teammate and a struggling Froome or sit in and take the time on Froome while not assist in furthering the gap on Valverde. He did what was right from a team perspective.

 

[SeriousSam]

ugghhh sometimnes it's so f'n annoying reading people who don;'t understand jack**** this was an explosive final. quintana is completley UNexplosive. quintana had to do all he can to just follow purito's wheel. that's not wheelsucking. purito nealry dropped him.

Yes it is wheelsucking. It doesn't magically become something different if the rider in question actually has a hard time holding the wheel. What an absurd idea.