Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[fauniera]

When he attacked, he was preparing the ground for Valverde, who was still the team leader at the time.

Not on Ventoux. Valverde was 12 minutes down at that point, Nairo still attacked.

 

[damian13ster]

I stopped reading at "From what I heard".

well, there was no TV coverage yet at that point....

 

[damian13ster]

His teammate was in red, his option was to help distance his teammate and a struggling Froome or sit in and take the time on Froome while not assist in furthering the gap on Valverde. He did what was right from a team perspective.

I call BS on that. He had no idea that
Rodriguez will catch Contador so the logical thing to do would be to close the gap to Berto, and nobody at Movistar would blame him for it.

Yes, in Tour 2013 he attacked some, but he was considered an underdog there.
In the races with good competition in 2014 he just wheelsucks (unless riders stop for neutralisation or his rival falls, then he is happy to attack).
And for 'best climber in the world' such behavior stands out a lot.

 

[Red Rick]

What's now for Nairito? Working for Valverde again?

 

[bicifan]

What's now for Nairito? Working for Valverde again?

I hope not, a wild card.

 

[fauniera]

What's now for Nairito? Working for Valverde again?

Attacking!

If he is okay.

 

[Stromeon]

Please let him not be too badly hurt... race needs him to attack otherwise it could be a bit of a parade like other two GTs this year (although it's never dull with Bertie).

 

[Afrank]

Attacking!

If he is okay.

This I hope. Try for a couple risky long range attacks would be nice. Doubt the others will let him get too much time with such an attack, but maybe move up some to top 5, or podium if he's lucky and really strong. Or some stage wins maybe.

Ideally him and Contador would join together for a long range attack and go on to take 1-2 in GC.

 

[Marco Pantani]

Damn, juut got home and checking the results.

How was he going before he crashed? And how much time has he lost there?
Any news on the injuries?

 

[Red Rick]

Damn, juut got home and checking the results.

How was he going before he crashed? And how much time has he lost there?
Any news on the injuries?

He was down 21 seconds on the intermediate

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

When he attacked, he was preparing the ground for Valverde, who was still the team leader at the time.

except that no orders were given and unzue called quintana specifically not to attack and said the same thing after the stage. and what about ventoux? valverde still leader 12 minutes behind in gc?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Yes it is wheelsucking. It doesn't magically become something different if the rider in question actually has a hard time holding the wheel. What an absurd idea.

no it isn't but thank you for making clear in one post that you don';t have the faintest idea what cycling is. I;m sure you've never even sat on a bike in any form of race

 

[damian13ster]

It is most likely just a road rash. Didnt look like anything serious. He will be fine.
Still, crashing in an ITT, with noone around you and good conditions.......

 

[Marco Pantani]

He was down 21 seconds on the intermediate

On Contador, Martin, Rigo?

 

[TomekA]

I'm not his fan, but I really feel for him today. But man, what a stupid crash that was....

 

[Red Rick]

On Contador, Martin?

On Contador

 

[damian13ster]

no it isn't but thank you for making clear in one post that you don';t have the faintest idea what cycling is. I;m sure you've never even sat on a bike in any form of race

It is wheelsucking......
So according to you Oropa wasnt wheel-sucking either? He freaking sprinted past Pozzovivo.......and he LIED to Pozzovivo telling him he has no strength anymore

Well, maybe now that everybody knows how strong Alberto is, how weak his team is, and he is not a true contender anymore he might, just might, actually go for an attack

 

[Marco Pantani]

On Contador

How was he going compared to Valverde, Froome?

Ty in advance.

 

[Afrank]

How was he going compared to Valverde, Froome?

Ty in advance.

First intermediate.
Contador 201 19' 29''
2. Valverde 151 + 8''
3. Sánchez 41 + 11''
4. Uran 177 + 16''
5. Quintana 159 + 20''
6. Coppel 72 + 23''
7. Rodriguez 131 + 27''
8. Froome 191 + 28''
9. Navarro 71 + 30''
10. Sicard 81 + 31''

 

[SeriousSam]

no it isn't but thank you for making clear in one post that you don';t have the faintest idea what cycling is. I;m sure you've never even sat on a bike in any form of race

Oh deary me, seems like you're really upset your boy isn't as attacking a rider as you'd like him to be. Maybe you just need to come to terms with his wheelsucking. Honestly, it ain't that bad. Sometimes it's even the right thing to do, as it was when he wheelsucked Purito.
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Stupid crash, only has himself to blame. It didn't look serious though so he should be ok. Will this lead to some viscous attacks featuring Quintana or will be a super domestique for Valverde from here on out? They did say the leader would be decided on the road after all.

 

[Angliru]

I call BS on that. He had no idea that
Rodriguez will catch Contador so the logical thing to do would be to close the gap to Berto, and nobody at Movistar would blame him for it.

Yes, in Tour 2013 he attacked some, but he was considered an underdog there.
In the races with good competition in 2014 he just wheelsucks (unless riders stop for neutralisation or his rival falls, then he is happy to attack).
And for 'best climber in the world' such behavior stands out a lot.

Where did I mention anything about Rodriguez catching Contador? After a brief wait Quintana was the first to respond to Contador's attack. They all had to know that Froome was in trouble and there was the opportunity to gain time on him. Once Purito bridged to his teammate you think Quintana should have taken a pull versus two Katusha riders? Had he jumped Purito at the line like he did Pozzivivo at the Giro, then you would have a valid complaint but he just covered Purito for his teammate and himself.

 

[Piz Buin]

Do we know anything about Quintana's injuries? He was down a long time...
Didn't think he would get back on the bike.

 

[Angliru]

It is most likely just a road rash. Didnt look like anything serious. He will be fine.
Still, crashing in an ITT, with noone around you and good conditions.......

That was a hard impact on his back. Just like with any rider he will feel worse tomorrow and the next day. I think he will struggle through the remainder of week 2 and begin to improve in week 3 provided he hasn't broken anything.
I think he had the wind knocked out of him and that was what delayed him getting back up quickly. What is your point in your last sentence?

 

[jens_attacks]

this is a crash where it could all end. i feared the worst when i saw the images and that barrier. at that speed, it acts like a blade. it was just a tumble and a huge shock to his body and especially to the mind. very good that he continued, he did very well. we'll see tomorrow if he attacks from the foot of the climb, that would be nice

 

[damian13ster]

Yeah, he was able to adopt decent position on a bike afterwards so I believe there are no bone or muscle injuries. Most likely just discomfort and pain for couple of days.

last sentence was just saying that it is a cyclist's job to stay on the bike and it is a part of racing. Hardly a misfortune since there was nobody around to cause the crash or even distract him. Really stupid mistake.