Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[Ataraxus]

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Contador destryoed nairito last year too. He had an excuse: the giro just like contador this year has

That's true. Contador was in stellar form last year, whereas this year is different. In the three stage races he has participated, he has gotten beaten by riders he will later contest GTs with. I haven't checked statistics but I think that's very low by Contador standards. Most probablyy only 2013 can get worse than that.

 

[AlexNYC]

I think many here are overlooking Quintana's seemingly strong allergy to pollen. He mentioned being sick from allergies before and during Pais Vasco and the Tour of Romandie; and as anyone who suffers from the same thing can corroborate, physical exercise is extremely difficult during an episode. Also, if I remember correctly, Nairo was having allergy issues during the first half of the Giro last year, which would explain his struggles during the early going of that race.

If his allergy to pollen is as bad as it looks, he should probably re-work his schedule in the future as to avoid competing during late spring races in Europe. Indurain, who also had this problem, stopped competing in the Vuelta partly due to this (back then, the Vuelta was the first GT of the season).

Also of note, Colombians usually don't know if they suffer from pollen allergies until they move to Europe or to other regions where the seasons are pronounced. Many Colombians don't even know that this allergy exists!

 

[Miburo]

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Contador destryoed nairito last year too. He had an excuse: the giro just like contador this year has

That's true. Contador was in stellar form last year, whereas this year is different. In the three stage races he has participated, he has gotten beaten by riders he will later contest GTs with. I haven't checked statistics but I think that's very low by Contador standards. Most probablyy only 2013 can get worse than that.

Terrible comparison. Can't use stats from last years since he's doing the doulble this year, competely different.

 

[SeriousSam]

If we use the stats from 2011, Contador will end the year with 0 GT victories to his name.

But let's get back to Quintana. He is now the clear favourite for the Tour with the bookies. I wonder whether they priced his mental fragility in.

 

[Jspear]

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If we use the stats from 2011, Contador will end the year with 0 GT victories to his name.

But let's get back to Quintana. He is now the clear favourite for the Tour with the bookies. I wonder whether they priced his mental fragility in.

Where in the world did you come up with this whole mental fragile thing?

 

[Ataraxus]

Re: Re:

Contador destryoed nairito last year too. He had an excuse: the giro just like contador this year has

That's true. Contador was in stellar form last year, whereas this year is different. In the three stage races he has participated, he has gotten beaten by riders he will later contest GTs with. I haven't checked statistics but I think that's very low by Contador standards. Most probablyy only 2013 can get worse than that.

Terrible comparison. Can't use stats from last years since he's doing the doulble this year, competely different.

Terribly hasty statement. 2011 come to mind?

 

[AlexNYC]

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If we use the stats from 2011, Contador will end the year with 0 GT victories to his name.

But let's get back to Quintana. He is now the clear favourite for the Tour with the bookies. I wonder whether they priced his mental fragility in.

Mental fragility? Interesting how two people can watch the same thing and yet come up with diametrically opposite conclusions.

Quintana was simply not fit enough to beat Froome in Romandie; I don't understand how you read that as being mentally fragile.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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Contador destryoed nairito last year too. He had an excuse: the giro just like contador this year has

you mean in tirreno? who cares about that? by that logic quintana destroyed contador as well this year

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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I think many here are overlooking Quintana's seemingly strong allergy to pollen. He mentioned being sick from allergies before and during Pais Vasco and the Tour of Romandie; and as anyone who suffers from the same thing can corroborate, physical exercise is extremely difficult during an episode. Also, if I remember correctly, Nairo was having allergy issues during the first half of the Giro last year, which would explain his struggles during the early going of that race.

If his allergy to pollen is as bad as it looks, he should probably re-work his schedule in the future as to avoid competing during late spring races in Europe. Indurain, who also had this problem, stopped competing in the Vuelta partly due to this (back then, the Vuelta was the first GT of the season).

Also of note, Colombians usually don't know if they suffer from pollen allergies until they move to Europe or to other regions where the seasons are pronounced. Many Colombians don't even know that this allergy exists!

this guy knows what he's talking about

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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If we use the stats from 2011, Contador will end the year with 0 GT victories to his name.

But let's get back to Quintana. He is now the clear favourite for the Tour with the bookies. I wonder whether they priced his mental fragility in.

lol, the delusional trolling gets more hilarious with every post

 

[classicomano]

Hes clearly on the decline already, his spring has been more than lackluster. Also hes obviously scared shitless of Froome and Contador who are much more talented GT riders than he will ever be.

 

[Ataraxus]

I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

 

[Escarabajo]

LOL. This thread has become comedy gold!!!!

What would we do without the comments of the trolls!

 

[SeriousSam]

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I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

I share your suspicion based on just his looks, but his youthful trepidation whenever Froome is in sight indicates otherwise

 

[Angliru]

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I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

All of this weak b.s. about mental fragility and the steaming pile of poo that is the above post is more an example of the off the charts ignorance and lack of respect for one of the sport's great young talents. It's just sad.

 

[Ataraxus]

Re: Re:

I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

All of this weak b.s. about mental fragility and the steaming pile of poo that is the above post is more an example of the off the charts ignorance and lack of respect for one of the sport's great young talents. It's just sad.

Before starting a dispute with you (which I'm planning to because, at first sight, I believe your post has more BS than mine), would you care to explain why do you call my post a steaming pile of poo. Please do.

 

[Jspear]

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I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

All of this weak b.s. about mental fragility and the steaming pile of poo that is the above post is more an example of the off the charts ignorance and lack of respect for one of the sport's great young talents. It's just sad.

Before starting a dispute with you (which I'm planning to because, at first sight, I believe your post has more BS than mine), would you care to explain why do you call my post a steaming pile of poo. Please do.

Surely there is more evidence proving that he is actually 25 than there is against, no? Or are you just joking with these last posts?

 

[Ataraxus]

Re: Re:

I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

All of this weak b.s. about mental fragility and the steaming pile of poo that is the above post is more an example of the off the charts ignorance and lack of respect for one of the sport's great young talents. It's just sad.

Before starting a dispute with you (which I'm planning to because, at first sight, I believe your post has more BS than mine), would you care to explain why do you call my post a steaming pile of poo. Please do.

Surely there is more evidence proving that he is actually 25 than there is against, no? Or are you just joking with these last posts?

And surely there's more evidence today's riders are riding clean. Yet the clinic is sometimes crowdier than PRR

 

[Jspear]

Re: Re:

I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

All of this weak b.s. about mental fragility and the steaming pile of poo that is the above post is more an example of the off the charts ignorance and lack of respect for one of the sport's great young talents. It's just sad.

Before starting a dispute with you (which I'm planning to because, at first sight, I believe your post has more BS than mine), would you care to explain why do you call my post a steaming pile of poo. Please do.

Surely there is more evidence proving that he is actually 25 than there is against, no? Or are you just joking with these last posts?

And surely there's more evidence today's riders are riding clean. Yet the clinic is sometimes crowdier than PRR

There's compelling reasons to believe clinic related stuff. Give me compelling reasons as to why Quintana is older. I'm not denying that this practice is never committed. I'm specifically talking about Quintana.

 

[Arnout]

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I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

And Esteban Chaves is 14.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Re: Re:

I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

All of this weak b.s. about mental fragility and the steaming pile of poo that is the above post is more an example of the off the charts ignorance and lack of respect for one of the sport's great young talents. It's just sad.

Before starting a dispute with you (which I'm planning to because, at first sight, I believe your post has more BS than mine), would you care to explain why do you call my post a steaming pile of poo. Please do.

Surely there is more evidence proving that he is actually 25 than there is against, no? Or are you just joking with these last posts?

And surely there's more evidence today's riders are riding clean. Yet the clinic is sometimes crowdier than PRR

lol. the clinic isn't more crowded then here and besides, it's the only forum in the world with a seperate clinic board. outside of the ridiculous anglophone cycling followers(who are a VERY small portion of all cycling fans), nobody is interested in doping

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Re: Re:

I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

And Esteban Chaves is 14.

lol. this post wins

 

[trevim]

Re: Re:

I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

And Esteban Chaves is 14.

I could buy into that, he looks like a kid

 

[classicomano]

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I don't know if I'm the only one, but, in my mind I have questioned Quintana's age. His face gives the impression of a much older man.
And in Latin America (and Africa) they have this trend of manipulating sportsmen passports to show them as much younger in Europe hence to increase their contract values. (There are plenty of suchlike speculations about south-american footballers)

He looks at least 42 years old. Maybe hes had a history of substance abuse in his youth, he is from Colombia after all.

 

[Velolover2]

Chaves is actually older than Quintana. But they look like they could be father and son.