Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[ILovecycling]

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Quintana doesnt have to take risk in a race like this just before le Tour.
Contador did and is a better descender, it is hevier than Quintana.
Good for Contador but the real race for the big riders is Le Tour...both are ready and if Contador didnt take easy is becouse he considers he wont be tired in the 21 days of Le Tour.
Difficult to say if Contador give everything today on the climb... in the descent he did.
If Contador gave everything, Quintana will be stronger in le Tour.

The funny thing is we dont know if Quintana gave everything on the climb or if he could attack and win by half a minute.

 

[Gigs_98]

He showed that he is in good shape, but he really should work on his descending skills. He is lucky that there is only one downhill finish in this tour because otherwise I could see guys like nibali taking a huge amount of time on nairo.

 

[Taxus4a]

He showed that he is in good shape, but he really should work on his descending skills. He is lucky that there is only one downhill finish in this tour because otherwise I could see guys like nibali taking a huge amount of time on nairo.

He is not heavy, but he has showed several times his skills on the descents...Today just is not a race to take risk.

Everybody said that Andy didnt decend and when he needed to take risk exacly in this same descent when the chain gate he showed he can descent very strong.

 

[Taxus4a]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/es/quintana-resiste-en-bales-no-merecia-la-pena-jugarsela-20-06-2015

Quintana said wanst necessary to take risk here and that Contador took too much risk, and he is happy about his shape.

 

[ILovecycling]

He showed that he is in good shape, but he really should work on his descending skills. He is lucky that there is only one downhill finish in this tour because otherwise I could see guys like nibali taking a huge amount of time on nairo.

He is not heavy, but he has showed several times his skills on the descents...Today just is not a race to take risk.

Everybody said that Andy didnt decend and when he needed to take risk exacly in this same descent when the chain gate he showed he can descent very strong.

No, he chose bad lines, double lines etc he just descended wrong, it has nothing to do with risk.

 

[ray j willings]

Qman got all out of shape going down. Bertie put in dig after dig on the climb
Qman had nothing to give
Qman. Will need the Bertie to have a bad day or two if he's got any chance to win the tour
.

 

[SeriousSam]

How many huge descents are there going to be where he'll be isolated from his team and mano a mano with another rider? In expectation less than one. Not that big a deal.

It's all about going uphill. Had he been dropped today, it would have been worrying, but he looked good as he always does when he isn't dropped, so we learned almost nothing about the Tour.

 

[Jspear]

We learned that Nibbes and AC will attack on the descents of the penultimate climbs, working together on the final climbs, leaving Froome and Quintana all alone trying to organize a chase.

 

[orangerider]

Not much risk for Contador today - he is plain and simple more skilled on the bike.

 

[roundabout]

Re: Re:

Quintana doesnt have to take risk in a race like this just before le Tour.
Contador did and is a better descender, it is hevier than Quintana.
Good for Contador but the real race for the big riders is Le Tour...both are ready and if Contador didnt take easy is becouse he considers he wont be tired in the 21 days of Le Tour.
Difficult to say if Contador give everything today on the climb... in the descent he did.
If Contador gave everything, Quintana will be stronger in le Tour.

The funny thing is we dont know if Quintana gave everything on the climb or if he could attack and win by half a minute.

Of course they didn't give it everything on the climb.

I really like Latour, but he is far from the best climber in his age group.

If they gave everything and came to the top with a 21 year old neopro and 20 seconds ahead of super journeyman like Rossetto they might as well not bother starting the Tour.

 

[Escarabajo]

He showed that he is in good shape, but he really should work on his descending skills. He is lucky that there is only one downhill finish in this tour because otherwise I could see guys like nibali taking a huge amount of time on nairo.

I don't think that his descending skills are that bad from what I watched. Just that Contador's skills are better.

 

[Escarabajo]

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We learned that Nibbes and AC will attack on the descents of the penultimate climbs, working together on the final climbs, leaving Froome and Quintana all alone trying to organize a chase.

It might happen now.

At least Quintana got a good warning from this race.

 

[Mr.White]

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http://www.biciciclismo.com/es/quintana-resiste-en-bales-no-merecia-la-pena-jugarsela-20-06-2015

Quintana said wanst necessary to take risk here and that Contador took too much risk, and he is happy about his shape.

Contador would never let his big rival to go like he went today, that's why he is such a big champion! Quintana, still lot to learn

Edit: Oh, and Andy Schleck was one bad descender

 

[rhubroma]

He showed that he is in good shape, but he really should work on his descending skills. He is lucky that there is only one downhill finish in this tour because otherwise I could see guys like nibali taking a huge amount of time on nairo.

He only lost 13 sec in the end. I remember when Pantani got dropped on a descent in the Tour by Big Mig and Virenque!

 

[carton]

Nothing wrong with Quintana's descending. Same as Froome, not as quite as good as Contador, not bad enough to actually get dropped by Alberto. Alberto is pretty good but he's the sort of guy that likes to take on risks/challenges, which endears him to his adoring fans but not to his not-quite-as-adoring colleagues. See Quintana's Stelvio descent. Also see the last time Alberto attacked Froome downhill and nearly took them both out. Nibali on the other hand could drop pretty much anyone if he really wanted to, but won't likely try at the Tour, as there's rarely a good spot for a GC downhill attack in modern GT riding anyway.

The only relevant takeway is that the "fantastic four" seem to be pretty much where you'd expect them to be before the Tour.

 

[Metabolol]

Training ride for Nairo, hard to say exactly how good his shape is.

 

[Billie]

Anybody knows when Quintana returned from Colombia?

 

[Pantani_lives]

Quintana will win the Tour in 2018. A year that ends in 8 always has a pure climber:

88 Delgado
98 Pantani
08 Sastre
18 Quintana

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

delgado wasn't a pure climber at all

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Anmmd exactly like i thought Quintana said he was just responding, had no intention to attack and took no risks on the downhill. That while Contador was going berserk.

They better fear Quintana if he survives the first week

 

[Netserk]

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Anmmd exactly like i thought Quintana said he was just responding, had no intention to attack and took no risks on the downhill. That while Contador was going berserk.

They better fear Quintana if he survives the first week

How was Contador going berserk? :O

 

[Miburo]

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Anmmd exactly like i thought Quintana said he was just responding, had no intention to attack and took no risks on the downhill. That while Contador was going berserk.

They better fear Quintana if he survives the first week

You really think contador went full *** on the descent?

And your if about quintana is a big if, very big. Stage 2 and 4 will be so dangerous for him. For others too though.

And he can already lose 30 sec to the likes of froome on the first day.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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Anmmd exactly like i thought Quintana said he was just responding, had no intention to attack and took no risks on the downhill. That while Contador was going berserk.

They better fear Quintana if he survives the first week

How was Contador going berserk? :O

maybe you should see the decent yesterday

 

[ray j willings]

If it rains on a mountain stage , Quintana tour over ...he will lose big time going down. Froome will as well but he just is generally sh%% in the rain.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Anmmd exactly like i thought Quintana said he was just responding, had no intention to attack and took no risks on the downhill. That while Contador was going berserk.

They better fear Quintana if he survives the first week

How was Contador going berserk? :O

Good question, and since when do we take a rider's words as truth without questioning it lol

Edit: if Quintana didn't care about the win and wouldn't take any risks he would have lost way more time on the descent. He went all out, he just didn't take the corners as good as Contador.