Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[Fernandez]

Quintana is a very clever and cold-mind guy. He knows that for the moment Froome is stronger than him and he is trying to not waste too much energy thinking that in the Alps he could strike back. I really think Quintana will be the strongest rider in the Alps. As for Valverde, I think he can achieve finally his dreamed Tour de France podium.

 

[hfer07]

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Quintana is a very clever and cold-mind guy. He knows that for the moment Froome is stronger than him and he is trying to not waste too much energy thinking that in the Alps he could strike back. I really think Quintana will be the strongest rider in the Alps. As for Valverde, I think he can achieve finally his dreamed Tour de France podium.

God speed

Quintanita will indeed shine in the Alps as Froome gets weaker- the question is how G & Porte are going to counter Nairito, as we saw 2 days ago- IF there a mano a mano match between them, I do believe Nairito can break him

 

[Eclipse]

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I can't work out if Raj J is trolling or just a bit dumb...

Quintana is a very clever and cold-mind guy. He knows that for the moment Froome is stronger than him and he is trying to not waste too much energy thinking that in the Alps he could strike back. I really think Quintana will be the strongest rider in the Alps. As for Valverde, I think he can achieve finally his dreamed Tour de France podium.

Definitely agree that Quintana will be strongest in the Alps but still maintain that losing a minute in the Pyrenees cost him his chance of victory

Not sure about Valverde for 3rd, he's looking good but I think Contador is coming good now too and will nab it.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Ok then , let's say Quintana did the softening up, do you think he would have got a minute on valverde...of course not. Who was stronger yesterday ? Quintana is getting a easy ride compared to valverde and so far he has been disappointing,

Call it whatever you want. The way he is riding has put him higher in the gc than Valverde. I'm sure Quintana isn't trying to "look" stronger than Valverde. As long as he beats him in the end (which he most likely will); I'm sure he doesn't mind if people call him weaker.

Quintana is not Stronger than Valverde at this time. Valverde his riding great and looks up for it.
Quintana needs to step up. No Quintana fan can be happy with his performance so far. He could lose more time before he gets to the alps.
We all expect Quintana to finish ahead of Valverde as do the team, Quintana is the no 1 rider but he his not riding like the no 1 rider. He has that time gap thanks to Valverde.

Valverde always does this. Almost in every GC he enters. He looks great and then he screws it up. He was given so many opportunities. That's why he cannot be trusted anymore. He understands that. Why can't you??

 

[ray j willings]

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I can't work out if Raj J is trolling or just a bit dumb...

Quintana is a very clever and cold-mind guy. He knows that for the moment Froome is stronger than him and he is trying to not waste too much energy thinking that in the Alps he could strike back. I really think Quintana will be the strongest rider in the Alps. As for Valverde, I think he can achieve finally his dreamed Tour de France podium.

Definitely agree that Quintana will be strongest in the Alps but still maintain that losing a minute in the Pyrenees cost him his chance of victory

Not sure about Valverde for 3rd, he's looking good but I think Contador is coming good now too and will nab it.

Don't insult me. I called it like it is ...Valverde so far in this tour has been stronger ,Quintana has been disappointing ,,,,that's the facts
Tell me what I have said that is wrong ?

 

[ray j willings]

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Ok then , let's say Quintana did the softening up, do you think he would have got a minute on valverde...of course not. Who was stronger yesterday ? Quintana is getting a easy ride compared to valverde and so far he has been disappointing,

Call it whatever you want. The way he is riding has put him higher in the gc than Valverde. I'm sure Quintana isn't trying to "look" stronger than Valverde. As long as he beats him in the end (which he most likely will); I'm sure he doesn't mind if people call him weaker.

Quintana is not Stronger than Valverde at this time. Valverde his riding great and looks up for it.
Quintana needs to step up. No Quintana fan can be happy with his performance so far. He could lose more time before he gets to the alps.
We all expect Quintana to finish ahead of Valverde as do the team, Quintana is the no 1 rider but he his not riding like the no 1 rider. He has that time gap thanks to Valverde.

Valverde always does this. Almost in every GC he enters. He looks great and then he screws it up. He was given so many opportunities. That's why he cannot be trusted anymore. He understands that. Why can't you??

He may well do but you agree that right now valverde looks stronger?

 

[ray j willings]

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Ok, first person on ignore.

I gave my reasons I asked you some questions but you could not answer,
You only want to me to agree with you ,,,You don't want a adult debate
behaviour of a big baby ,,,,Cant accept the truth.

Like I said Quintana is letting you down not me . Im just pointing that out .

You will get this message

 

[ray j willings]

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Quintana is a very clever and cold-mind guy. He knows that for the moment Froome is stronger than him and he is trying to not waste too much energy thinking that in the Alps he could strike back. I really think Quintana will be the strongest rider in the Alps. As for Valverde, I think he can achieve finally his dreamed Tour de France podium.

So he's saving is energy and is losing time, Yeah that's clever ...if keeps that up he will not even make the podium at least he will have a cool mind
Why can't you just admit he has been disappointing. How can you defend his performance?

 

[Gigs_98]

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I can't work out if Raj J is trolling or just a bit dumb...

Quintana is a very clever and cold-mind guy. He knows that for the moment Froome is stronger than him and he is trying to not waste too much energy thinking that in the Alps he could strike back. I really think Quintana will be the strongest rider in the Alps. As for Valverde, I think he can achieve finally his dreamed Tour de France podium.

Definitely agree that Quintana will be strongest in the Alps but still maintain that losing a minute in the Pyrenees cost him his chance of victory

Not sure about Valverde for 3rd, he's looking good but I think Contador is coming good now too and will nab it.

Don't insult me. I called it like it is ...Valverde so far in this tour has been stronger ,Quintana has been disappointing ,,,,that's the facts
Tell me what I have said that is wrong ?

I think Quintana wasnt really disappointing. The only stage where he much time because froome was really stronger was the first mtf. However he was by far stronger than all the "not sky men" so you can't really blame him for being bad. Moreover as it is already written, Quintana will probably peak for the alps so he will get even stronger. I think hardly anyone really expected him to be better than froome in the pyrenees.

 

[Hakkapelit]

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It is amazing what Quintana is doing with his age
He will be super strong at 30
In the apls if there is hot Quintana will be with Froome alone, and maybe he will drop Froome in Alp Dhuez.

Its possible he has run out of gas by the time he's 27, who of those who are really great u25 riders continue to progress in to their 30s?

 

[fungusbear]

I hope he can be at the front of cycling for many years to come. But you can never tell. Look at Andy Schleck. Everyone thought when he burst onto the scene he would become one of the greatest ever. He never won a grand tour (or at least not on the road anyway).

 

[SeriousSam]

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I can't work out if Raj J is trolling or just a bit dumb...

Quintana is a very clever and cold-mind guy. He knows that for the moment Froome is stronger than him and he is trying to not waste too much energy thinking that in the Alps he could strike back. I really think Quintana will be the strongest rider in the Alps. As for Valverde, I think he can achieve finally his dreamed Tour de France podium.

Definitely agree that Quintana will be strongest in the Alps but still maintain that losing a minute in the Pyrenees cost him his chance of victory

Not sure about Valverde for 3rd, he's looking good but I think Contador is coming good now too and will nab it.

Stage 2 cost him even more time. That's the big *** up. Without that, losing a minute at PSM would be acceptable, if he goes on to be the best climber at the Alps.

If Froome is still the strongest climber there, though, then he simply superior and deserves the win, and Quintana will need to hope that he can become a better climber still next year.

 

[ray j willings]

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I hope he can be at the front of cycling for many years to come. But you can never tell. Look at Andy Schleck. Everyone thought when he burst onto the scene he would become one of the greatest ever. He never won a grand tour (or at least not on the road anyway).

Me to...We need some new riders to step up.
At least Andy went mano v mano with the best in the biggest race. He's missed.

 

[Jspear]

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Quintana is a very clever and cold-mind guy. He knows that for the moment Froome is stronger than him and he is trying to not waste too much energy thinking that in the Alps he could strike back. I really think Quintana will be the strongest rider in the Alps. As for Valverde, I think he can achieve finally his dreamed Tour de France podium.

So he's saving is energy and is losing time, Yeah that's clever ...if keeps that up he will not even make the podium at least he will have a cool mind
Why can't you just admit he has been disappointing. How can you defend his performance?

Who has lost more time to Froome? Quintana or Valverde?

 

[Jelantik]

So far quintana is meh. The hype surrounds him doesn't really match with what he got. Maybe he is waiting for Froome to fade in the alps. Kinda like 2013 scenario. But he got 3 minutes behind. If he double pronged with contador maybe he has some chance. But so far i'm not impress with him yet. Maybe when Froome fades.. probably.

 

[Jelantik]

So far quintana is meh. The hype surrounds him doesn't really match with what he got. Maybe he is waiting for Froome to fade in the alps. Kinda like 2013 scenario. But he got 3 minutes behind. If he double pronged with contador maybe he has some chance. But so far i'm not impress with him yet. Maybe when Froome fades.. probably

 

[tristecsinamigos]

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So he's saving is energy and is losing time, Yeah that's clever ...if keeps that up he will not even make the podium at least he will have a cool mind
Why can't you just admit he has been disappointing. How can you defend his performance?

how's he "saving energy"? He did most work in the pave without Valverde or others help; he attacked a couple of times yesterday; he was the only one besides Porte not to lose more than 2 minutes with Froome 4 days ago...

 

[ray j willings]

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So he's saving is energy and is losing time, Yeah that's clever ...if keeps that up he will not even make the podium at least he will have a cool mind
Why can't you just admit he has been disappointing. How can you defend his performance?

how's he "saving energy"? He did most work in the pave without Valverde or others help; he attacked a couple of times yesterday; he was the only one besides Porte not to lose more than 2 minutes with Froome 4 days ago...

He rode the pave very well. Did not panic when the few attacks happened just rode consistent. A great job.
That's one of my points , Porte rode a lot at the front and he ended up beating Quintana with ease. It was disappointing , no one would have expected that. I thought Quintana would to win that stage.
The chance are going by, We have just come out of some mountains and Quintana is losing big time.
He's not the sort of rider who goes for a long attack like Bertie or Nibs, Valverde. So it could all come down to the Alp's and his form does not suggest he his going to put Froome in to much trouble.
He will need to improve. Lets hope he can.

 

[Arnout]

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I can't work out if Raj J is trolling or just a bit dumb...

Quintana is a very clever and cold-mind guy. He knows that for the moment Froome is stronger than him and he is trying to not waste too much energy thinking that in the Alps he could strike back. I really think Quintana will be the strongest rider in the Alps. As for Valverde, I think he can achieve finally his dreamed Tour de France podium.

Definitely agree that Quintana will be strongest in the Alps but still maintain that losing a minute in the Pyrenees cost him his chance of victory

Not sure about Valverde for 3rd, he's looking good but I think Contador is coming good now too and will nab it.

Stage 2 cost him even more time. That's the big **** up. Without that, losing a minute at PSM would be acceptable, if he goes on to be the best climber at the Alps.

If Froome is still the strongest climber there, though, then he simply superior and deserves the win, and Quintana will need to hope that he can become a better climber still next year.

Wait did I just find someone with common sense in this thread? That's weird.

I don't get the people who are constantly saying Quintana is overhyped. Yes, he's one of the best climbers and a serious Tour contender, he's already proving that for three years straight. Whether he's the best, he'll have to prove that next week. I still hope so, but let's wait and see.

 

[Ramira]

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I don't get the people who are constantly saying Quintana is overhyped. Yes, he's one of the best climbers and a serious Tour contender, he's already proving that for three years straight. Whether he's the best, he'll have to prove that next week. I still hope so, but let's wait and see.

The thing is that Quintana has been overhyped by some people, especially on this board. There have been those saying he was the greatest climber of this generation and was clearly better than Froome in 2013.

In my opinion that was hype. And compared to those overhyped expectations he has been disappointing. However, if you look at him objectively, he is one of the top 3 climbers of the last few years, and clearly the best young climber (Froome is actually the second youngest of the big 4 and he's 30, 5 years older than Quintana) though he has yet to prove he's better than Froome.

By those standards he's done all he could be expected to, yes the first stage in the Pyrenees was a disappointment but the weather was extreme. If he finishes second in this tour he will have done pretty well. Though of course many of us are hoping he'll improve in the final week, and force Froome to defend his jersey.

 

[SeriousSam]

Froome continues to look invulnerable for singular efforts. Quintana will have to make it a test of stamina and see who declines quicker.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Getting excited for the Alps.

 

[Vino's Mum]

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[DBotero]

I think Quitana needs way more than this,Froome brought him back alone this time.In the real mountains the train will be back.Quintana will try,let's see what he can do.

 

[Punkan]

Quintana was fantastic today, he will put on a great show in the alps. But it will be hard to beat Froome because Froome rides so tactically smart, no panic and a steady high pace. Hard seeing Froome losing three minutes but I'm sure Quintana will press him to the limit.