Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[portugal11]

What was his average speed in tt?

 

[Cookster15]

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What was his average speed in tt?

15:45 for 13.4km = 51kph

Impressive for a 58kg rider?

 

[portugal11]

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What was his average speed in tt?

15:45 for 13.4km = 51kph

Impressive for a 58kg rider?

Wow, that is impressive!!! But something isn't right... this tt was mostly downhill or had few corners?

 

[portugal11]

But last year in tour, he also did more than 52 km/h in 14 km

 

[sir fly]

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What was his average speed in tt?

15:45 for 13.4km = 51kph

Impressive for a 58kg rider?

Wow, that is impressive!!! But something isn't right... this tt was mostly downhill or had few corners?

 

[May0maniac]

I didn't realize that the ITT took place in Albi, that surely brings back some memories...
Really impressed by his ITT and this year there isn't a Tour stage that really screams crosswinds, it could be his time to shine.

 

[sir fly]

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I didn't realize that the ITT took place in Albi, that surely brings back some memories...
Really impressed by his ITT and this year there isn't a Tour stage that really screams crosswinds, it could be his time to shine.

They won't be riding in the sea this year, but the opening stages mustn't be underestimated. Just take a look at the map.
Also, the stage to Montpellier may surprise. And there's always a chance of gusts at exposed lumps on random stages.
Wind is the most unpredictable factor.

 

[Valv.Piti]

But when has Quintana been caught out in crosswinds - TdF 2015? So did many others, pretty much only Contador and Froome didn't. And lets not forget crosswinds very much is a team game and last year, they weren't ready. He has addressed that point a few times this year and with a world class domestique as Erviti and Valverde gone from the picture, Im confident he won't lose time. And even if he does, well, I honestly think he can make 2 minutes up. Maybe Im too biased here, but what I have seen from Nairo this whole year - apart from Pais Vasco where he was sick and bounced beautifully back on the ITT - has been on another level.

My biggest concerns is crashes. Rather lose a couple of seconds here and there than risk anything.

 

[sir fly]

I don't want to think about crashes. Yet, Quintana hasn't had that kind of mishaps so far, if I'm remembering well. We could say he knows his ways through thick and thin.

You're right when you say he's on another level. And I think he knows it, too.

 

[Flamin]

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But when has Quintana been caught out in crosswinds - TdF 2015?.

2014 Vuelta.

 

[Isaak-Gabriel]

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I don't want to think about crashes. Yet, Quintana hasn't had that kind of mishaps so far, if I'm remembering well. We could say he knows his ways through thick and thin.

You're right when you say he's on another level. And I think he knows it, too.

He would've maybe achieved the double Giro-Vuelta in 2014 without the crashes at least the podium with Contador and Froomy.

 

[sir fly]

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I don't want to think about crashes. Yet, Quintana hasn't had that kind of mishaps so far, if I'm remembering well. We could say he knows his ways through thick and thin.

You're right when you say he's on another level. And I think he knows it, too.

He would've maybe achieved the double Giro-Vuelta in 2014 without the crashes at least the podium with Contador and Froomy.

You're right.
Although it's different to fall in a tt and to be caught in some crash during a regular stage. In 2014. everything started from that tt.

 

[MovistarRider]

Magnificent TT ride from Nairo today, magnificent!

He's showing great form so far, it's gonna be his tour this year.

 

[Carols]

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Isn't there a betting thread? Every rider thread doesn't require knowing who bet, how much etc.

Firstly,that thread is pretty inactive and I think that few posts dont bother anybody that much Carols.Secondly,we should not bound ourselves by the rules so much imo (CN is restricted to much imho)


@Flo you really expected him to win today?

I did not.

Well if all the betting talk went over there it wouldn't be inactive.

I came to the Nairo thread to read about people thoughts on his great performance today and found an entire page of posts about betting instead. People bragging about their bets means little on a rider thread IMO. Including definitions of betting terms. Obviously it bothers me.

Nairo looks primed and ready for an awesome Tour! I'm warming up to him again, especially after the Long breakaway ride. I wish he had a little more personal charisma.

 

[Valv.Piti]

It was 6-7 posts or so...
Also, I don't see anyone bragging. You are making this a way bigger problem than it has to be, we moved past it. Doesn't seem like the biggest problem to me considering what other off-topic posts you'll find elsewhere and you can argue it isn't even off-topic.

 

[Red Rick]

I think it's better to actually keep the betting stuff to the betting thread in the fantasy cycling and games section. Mostly because in that thread it's actually an addition to the thread rather than a nuisance to most posters.

 

[SeriousSam]

Interestingly, Quintana's probability to win the Tour hasn't changed due to the ITT. Some posters have appointed Quintana outright favourite, or close to it, but that's still Froome according to the wisdom of the crowds.


Froome between 40 and 50%
Quintana between 31% and 36%
Contador between 13% and 18%

 

[RattaKuningas]

Interestingly, Quintana's probability to win the Tour hasn't changed due to the ITT. Some posters have appointed Quintana outright favourite, or close to it, but that's still Froome according to the wisdom of the crowds.


Froome between 40 and 50%
Quintana between 31% and 36%
Contador between 13% and 18%

I think that Quintana was favourite with ITT or without ITT. He was so strong during week 3 in last years TdF and I expect him to be even stronger this year.
I'm hoping that Contador can do something special and win TdF but if he doesn't then Quintana will probably win it.

 

[Sciocco]

Interestingly, Quintana's probability to win the Tour hasn't changed due to the ITT. Some posters have appointed Quintana outright favourite, or close to it, but that's still Froome according to the wisdom of the crowds.


Froome between 40 and 50%
Quintana between 31% and 36%
Contador between 13% and 18%

So it's about 6% for the field?

 

[Ataraxus]

Quintana, the ultimate master of disguise. With the strong TT yesterday, I watched today's stage closely to see his climbing performance before the Tour ( we wouldn't have had good references with that poor field but still, we would have created some insights) but he managed to hide it by gifting his team mate a stage win.
Blackout till le Liorian stage now.

 

[Escarabajo]

Red Rick, I don't mind seeing it here. I don't bet so I never go to those threads. But I am very interested in the odds and how they change over time. That portrays how experts or other people think about their current performances which is very relevant to this thread and the Contador / Froome thread.

Now if they start talking details on how much to bet and how to bet and stuff like that then it becomes nonsense here. But as it is now looks relevant to the thread.

 

[Escarabajo]

Nairo looks so much in control. Reminds me of someone in 2009 at the Dauphine.

 

[ILovecycling]

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Nairo looks so much in control. Reminds me of someone in 2009 at the Dauphine.

Lol exactly my thoughts! I remember that race,the toying with climbs,riders etc
i hope his form will peak how it should,..

 

[IndianCyclist]

Froome attacked his main competitor Contador on the first MTF. Quintana on the other hand gets attacked by Carthy and sucks wheels till the end. If you don't test yourself in the buildup, how can you make an attacking strategy in the TDF.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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Froome attacked his main competitor Contador on the first MTF. Quintana on the other hand gets attacked by Carthy and sucks wheels till the end. If you don't test yourself in the buildup, how can you make an attacking strategy in the TDF.

There was no one for Quintana to test himself against. He could've dropped Carthy easily but what would've it proved, probably nothing.