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The Rams indeed headed to full on rebuild for 2023 and likely 2024. But hey, they got a banner.

That Jets history of misery (since Namath) has to continue with Rodgers. It just makes total sense. They give up the last bit of the farm to get Rodgers, all the hype, all those MVP awards, all that money. Then, he gets there, it turns out he really is a strange guy under the microscope in NY, and the Jets make it to the playoffs, huge expectations, but he really is getting old, not much better that 2022, but they still have hope...only to lose a home game against someone like the Titans, Jaguars, Chargers etc.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
The Rams indeed headed to full on rebuild for 2023 and likely 2024. But hey, they got a banner.

That Jets history of misery (since Namath) has to continue with Rodgers. It just makes total sense. They give up the last bit of the farm to get Rodgers, all the hype, all those MVP awards, all that money. Then, he gets there, it turns out he really is a strange guy under the microscope in NY, and the Jets make it to the playoffs, huge expectations, but he really is getting old, not much better that 2022, but they still have hope...only to lose a home game against someone like the Titans, Jaguars, Chargers etc.
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Aaron has proven to be really strange in the mega-market of Green Bay.
He may actually tone it down in NYC but it's true: they don't miss much and can drive careless celebutantes like him even crazier.
 
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Holy smokes! Did the 49ers really need Hargrave? Wow! If Bosa wasn't destructive enough in 2022, he has to be doing backflips of joy about now. Same with their secondary.

Curious the 49er plan replacing McGlinchy will be. He was good, but the Niners were not going to pay him that much money.

Some Raider fans unhappy with the Jimmy G singing, but I too am surprised it came that "cheap". This really isn't a bad deal for the Raiders unless he's hurt early or misses a whole lot of games, which is possible. Quite a few people were saying he'd get $30m on the open market. He makes less risky throws than Carr did, but I don't know that he's really that better. Raiders still need massive help on defense though, really.

I'm surprised, but happy for Jarett Stidham, to get that kind of cash. I didn't expect it.

I honestly can't believe all the noise about Lamar. All the people who keep screaming MVP!!! which means he should get some massive contract, or massive offer from some other team. First, it's 90% likely any contract another team offers to him, the Ravens would probably just match, because it would help move forward on a contract with him. Next, he's certainly a risk, due to injuries, and the way he plays. And as we've said, his QBR and passer rating were down the last two years. He's not the MVP player he was in 2019. But if he can keep from getting hurt, he could still be quite good. So he's just not worth $250m guaranteed over 6 seasons. But both he and the team have been fairly quiet, so it's not like they are at each other's throats in the public. It seems to me like a process that needs to work it's way through. And if not, he's going to get $33m fully guaranteed this coming season. It's not like anyone is going to lose big time with such a deal.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Holy smokes! Did the 49ers really need Hargrave? Wow! If Bosa wasn't destructive enough in 2022, he has to be doing backflips of joy about now. Same with their secondary.

Curious the 49er plan replacing McGlinchy will be. He was good, but the Niners were not going to pay him that much money.

Some Raider fans unhappy with the Jimmy G singing, but I too am surprised it came that "cheap". This really isn't a bad deal for the Raiders unless he's hurt early or misses a whole lot of games, which is possible. Quite a few people were saying he'd get $30m on the open market. He makes less risky throws than Carr did, but I don't know that he's really that better. Raiders still need massive help on defense though, really.

I'm surprised, but happy for Jarett Stidham, to get that kind of cash. I didn't expect it.

I honestly can't believe all the noise about Lamar. All the people who keep screaming MVP!!! which means he should get some massive contract, or massive offer from some other team. First, it's 90% likely any contract another team offers to him, the Ravens would probably just match, because it would help move forward on a contract with him. Next, he's certainly a risk, due to injuries, and the way he plays. And as we've said, his QBR and passer rating were down the last two years. He's not the MVP player he was in 2019. But if he can keep from getting hurt, he could still be quite good. So he's just not worth $250m guaranteed over 6 seasons. But both he and the team have been fairly quiet, so it's not like they are at each other's throats in the public. It seems to me like a process that needs to work it's way through. And if not, he's going to get $33m fully guaranteed this coming season. It's not like anyone is going to lose big time with such a deal.
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McGlinchy was simply the money, a couple of other o line players were paid big bucks as well. Bosa extension to come. As for Hargrave, I think the signing is mainly for Kinlaw who was an early draft pick and hasn't showed up. He has chronic knee issues and missed a lot of games. He has little trade value and will probably be released pre his final rookie year. Signing Hargrave also means that Ebukam won't be re-signed as his contract was a mid level one and his production dropped off also had Achilles problems. They will hope to keep Omenihu if he survives his current legal issues re assault case. 49ers obviously saw what the Eagles achieved on both sides and want Bosa to have a better quality playmate !

Stidham did well for himself.

Did the Raiders fans think they were really going to get Rodgers for about two and half times Jimmy's salary. This way they will draft a QB as well and they probably hoped to keep Stidham but couldn't or saw other needs first.

Lamar and Murray are similar. Played their best football early without doing much in the playoffs then the injuries set in. Think Lamar based on recent seasons is a huge risk to be paying elite money and the Cardinals are now paying for Murray's extension. Their team has basically been gutted and Murray has not impressed as a leader. Ravens made a prudent move but they might not retain him for long. and I'm not sure that the NFL is the place to be going without an agent............
 
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Some Raiders fans are completely bonkers, some are Karens. But yes, a lot of them thought having Rodgers on the team would instantly take them to the Super Bowl, probably win it 3 years in a row.

More and more rumblings that by the time you read this Rodgers will be a Jet.
 
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NFL news roundup: Latest league updates from Monday, March 13

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Indianapolis Colts

SIGNINGS
  • LB E.J. Speed is signing a two-year, $9 million contract, NFL Network Insider Mike Garafolo reported.
  • K Matt Gay is signing a four-year, $22.5 million deal that is the biggest ever for a kicker in free agency, NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero and NFL Network's Peter Schrager reported.
Huge money for a kicker. Colts didn't have more important needs ?. Texans pick up a few 49ers in Jimmy Ward, Ridgeway and possibly Mosley. Austin Ekeler looking for a trade from the Chargers.
 
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SF gets another big DEEF Rusher, Javon Hargrave from the Iggles @ 4 yrs/$80mil. Seattle does the same with Dre'Mont Jones @ 3yrs/$51mil from the gift that keeps giving, Denver.
So the division could get down to which QB has the quickest release and best O Line. Sounds like a race with LA and Arizona either on Yard Sale mode or still trying to kumbaya with key players.
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NFC West was the best division in football two seasons ago !
 
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Not sure what in the heck the Cardinals are going to do. They are all-in, 100% with Murray, but who knows when he'll be playing. But their team looks like a total mess next year. Rams just tossing everything overboard.

Great signing of Jones for Seattle. Was hoping the Raiders would get him, but that was a stiff price. Money that otherwise would have gone to Russ one could say! My guess is this removes the Seahawks from the Wagner return sweeps?

Good call on Winston. May be the best place for him. Listening to Derek Carr talk about the Saints, it sounds like he fit in and made up his mind long before they signed him, like, the first phone call he had with Dennis Allen and then Mickey Loomis.

Seattle and New Orleans look like they are just about ready to play, now, even before the draft. Fans of both teams should really like what they are seeing. It's great to have your team look like it's set and everyone is on the same page.

Surprised James Bradberry is still not signed. Thought he would go quick. Those replays of the PI in the Super Bowl may be affecting stock?

Chanucy Gardner-Johnson and Orlando Brown two huge names still on the board.

Curious if Jordan Poyer signs back with Buffalo for less money.

Gregg Rosenthal has OBJ as his 9th best FA??? Better than JuJu Smith Schuster? Better than Jacobi Myers?

Don't be surprised if Jacoby Brissett gets signed by Frank Reich in Carolina. Perfect vet and a total grown-up and class act to show their rookie how the NFL works.

Thought we'd hear Rodgers to the Jets today. Maybe tomorrow? David Carr basically reported that the bridge for Rodgers back to Green Bay is all but burnt down to maybe a tightrope if he wanted to go back. Said he and LeFleur were just not on the same page, at all. Like I said before, it's Jets, or retirement at this point. Both Ian Rappaport and Adam Scheftner have hinted it's basically a done deal, but nothing to announce yet.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Not sure what in the heck the Cardinals are going to do. They are all-in, 100% with Murray, but who knows when he'll be playing. But their team looks like a total mess next year. Rams just tossing everything overboard.

Great signing of Jones for Seattle. Was hoping the Raiders would get him, but that was a stiff price. Money that otherwise would have gone to Russ one could say! My guess is this removes the Seahawks from the Wagner return sweeps?

Good call on Winston. May be the best place for him. Listening to Derek Carr talk about the Saints, it sounds like he fit in and made up his mind long before they signed him, like, the first phone call he had with Dennis Allen and then Mickey Loomis.

Seattle and New Orleans look like they are just about ready to play, now, even before the draft. Fans of both teams should really like what they are seeing. It's great to have your team look like it's set and everyone is on the same page.

Surprised James Bradberry is still not signed. Thought he would go quick. Those replays of the PI in the Super Bowl may be affecting stock?

Chanucy Gardner-Johnson and Orlando Brown two huge names still on the board.

Curious if Jordan Poyer signs back with Buffalo for less money.

Gregg Rosenthal has OBJ as his 9th best FA??? Better than JuJu Smith Schuster? Better than Jacobi Myers?

Don't be surprised if Jacoby Brissett gets signed by Frank Reich in Carolina. Perfect vet and a total grown-up and class act to show their rookie how the NFL works.

Thought we'd hear Rodgers to the Jets today. Maybe tomorrow? David Carr basically reported that the bridge for Rodgers back to Green Bay is all but burnt down to maybe a tightrope if he wanted to go back. Said he and LeFleur were just not on the same page, at all. Like I said before, it's Jets, or retirement at this point. Both Ian Rappaport and Adam Scheftner have hinted it's basically a done deal, but nothing to announce yet.
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Anything to do with Rodgers never seems to be less than drawn out and painful !

Bradberry's agent might be asking for too much green !

Seaatle and the 49ers look set to battle out the NFC West again. The other two teams are in disarray. Can see why McVay was thinking retirement last season, rebuilds must be painful for coaches. Darnold to the 49ers was an odd one, contract details will be interesting. Buccs are supposed to be pursuing Baker Mayfield.
 
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Buffalo Bills

  • OG Connor McGovern: Agreed to a three-year, $23 million contract. (Mike Garafolo)
  • LB Tyler Matakevich: Re-signing on a two-year deal that voids after Year 1. (Ian Rapoport)
  • LB Matt Milano: Signed a two-year extension through 2026. He was previously under contract through 2024. (Team)
  • P Sam Martin: Re-signing on a three-year contract worth up to $7.5 million with $4.115 million in guarantees. (Mike Garafolo)

Miami Dolphins


New England Patriots


New York Jets

  • LB Quincy Williams: Re-signing on a three-year, $18 million deal that maxes out at $21 million with incentives. (Tom Pelissero)
  • S Chuck Clark: Acquired in a trade with the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for a 2024 seventh-round pick. (Ian Rapoport)
  • K Greg Zuerlein: Re-signing on a one year-deal worth up to $3.5 million. (Ian Rapoport)
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Baltimore Ravens


Cincinnati Bengals

  • LB Germaine Pratt: Re-signing on a three-year, $21 million deal. Pratt receives $10.35 million in Year 1 and $15.15 million over two years. (Tom Pelissero)


Cleveland Browns

  • C Ethan Pocic: Re-signing on three-year, $18 million deal. (Mike Garafolo)
  • DT Dalvin Tomlinson: Signing a four-year, $57 million contract. (Ian Rapoport)
  • Edge Obo Okoronkwo: Signing a three-year, $19 million deal with a max value of $22 million. Okoronkwo receives $12.5 million guaranteed. (Rapoport)

Pittsburgh Steelers

  • CB Patrick Peterson: Signing a two-year, $14 million deal that includes $5.85 million guaranteed. (Tom Pelissero)
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AFC SOUTH

Houston Texans

  • QB Case Keenum: Signing a two-year, $6.25 million contract that includes $4 million guaranteed. The deal has a max value of $8.25 million with incentives. (Tom Pelissero)
  • WR Robert Woods: Signing a two-year, $15.25 million deal that includes $10 million fully guaranteed and has a max value of $17 million. (Ian Rapoport)
  • TE Andrew Beck: Signing a two-year, $6.75 million contract that includes $4 million guaranteed. (Ian Rapoport)
  • C Scott Quessenberry: Re-signed with the Texans. (Team)
  • Edge Chase Winovich: Expected to sign with the Texans. (Ian Rapoport)
  • DL Hassan Ridgeway: Signing a one-year, $3.25 million contract that has a max value of $4 million with incentives. (Tom Pelissero)
  • S M.J. Stewart: Re-signing on a two-year contract with a max value of $7.5 million. The deal includes $1.5 million at signing and $750,000 in annual incentives. (Ian Rapoport)
  • S Jimmie Ward: Expected to sign with the Texans. (Ian Rapoport)

Indianapolis Colts

  • Edge Tyquan Lewis: Re-signed on a one-year, $2.1 million deal that has a max value of $3.35 million and includes $500,000 guaranteed. (Tom Pelissero)
  • LB E.J. Speed: Re-signed on a two-year, $9 million deal. (Mike Garafolo)
  • K Matt Gay: Signed a four-year, $22.5 million deal. (Tom Pelissero and Peter Schrager)

Jacksonville Jaguars

  • QB C.J. Beathard: Re-signed on a two-year, $4.5 million contract. The deal also includes up to $1 million in annual incentives, for a max value of $6.5 million. (Tom Pelissero)
  • TE Evan Engram: Received the non-exclusive franchise tag.
  • DL Roy Robertson-Harris: Signed a three-year, $30 million extension. (Mike Garafolo)

Tennessee Titans

  • OT Andre Dillard: Agreed to a three-year, $29 million contract. (Mike Garafolo and Ian Rapoport)
  • LS Morgan Cox: Signed a one-year extension. (Team)

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Denver Broncos


Kansas City Chiefs


Las Vegas Raiders

  • QB Jimmy Garoppolo: Signing a three-year, $72.75 million deal that includes $24.25 million in Year 1. (Mike Garafolo, Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero)
  • RB Ameer Abdullah: Re-signed to a one-year, $1.75 million contract that includes $500,000 guaranteed. (Tom Pelissero)
  • RB Josh Jacobs: Received the non-exclusive franchise tag.
  • S Marcus Epps: Signing a two-year, $12 million deal that includes nearly $8 million guaranteed. (Mike Garafolo, Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero)

Los Angeles Chargers

  • QB Easton Stick: Re-signed on a one-year, $1.8 million deal. (Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero)
  • LB Eric Kendricks: Signing with the Chargers. (Ian Rapoport)
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NFC EAST


Dallas Cowboys

  • RB Tony Pollard: Received the non-exclusive franchise tag.

New York Giants


Philadelphia Eagles


Washington Commanders

  • OT Andrew Wylie: Signing a three-year, $24 million contract. (Tom Pelissero)
  • OL Nick Gates: Agreed to terms on a three-year, $16.5 million deal. The contract has a max value of $18 million and includes $8 million guaranteed. (Mike Garafolo)
  • DL Daron Payne: Received the franchise tag. Payne later signed a four-year, $90 million contract that includes $45 million fully guaranteed ($60 million in total guarantees) and a $28 million signing bonus. (Ian Rapoport)
  • LB Cody Barton: Signing a one-year, fully guaranteed contract. (Tom Pelissero)
  • LB David Mayo: Re-signed on a one-year extension. (Team)
  • CB Cameron Dantzler: Claimed off waivers from the Vikings. (Tom Pelissero)
  • CB Danny Johnson: Re-signing on a two-year deal worth up to $7 million with $2.75 million guaranteed. (Tom Pelissero)
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NFC NORTH

Chicago Bears

  • FB Khari Blasingame: Agreed to a two-year extension. (Agent)
  • WR DJ Moore: Acquired in a trade with the Carolina Panthers in exchange for the No. 1 overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft. The Bears also received the No. 9 overall pick in 2023, a 2023 second-rounder (No. 61 overall), a 2024 first-rounder and a 2025 second-rounder in the deal. (Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero)
  • OG Nate Davis: Signing a three-year, $30 million deal that includes $19.25 million guaranteed. (Mike Garafolo and Ian Rapoport)
  • Edge DeMarcus Walker: Agreed to a three-year deal. (Mike Garafolo)
  • LB Tremaine Edmunds: Signing a four-year, $72 million contract that includes $50 million guaranteed. (Ian Rapoport)
  • LB T.J. Edwards: Signing a three-year, $19.5 million contract that includes $12 million guaranteed. (Ian Rapoport)

Detroit Lions



Green Bay Packers

  • KR/PR Keisean Nixon: Re-signing on a one-year deal with a max value of $6 million. (Ian Rapoport)

Minnesota Vikings

  • TE Josh Oliver: Agreed to a three-year, $21 million deal that includes $10.75 million guaranteed. The contract has a max value of $24 million with incentives. (Mike Garafolo)
  • Edge Marcus Davenport: Signing a one-year, $13 million contract. (Mike Garafolo, Tom Pelissero and Ian Rapoport)
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NFC SOUTH

Atlanta Falcons


Carolina Panthers

  • C Bradley Bozeman: Re-signing on a three-year, $18 million contract. (Ian Rapoport)
  • DL Shy Tuttle: Agreed to a three-year, $19.5 million deal that includes $13.5 million guaranteed at signing. (Ian Rapoport)
  • S Vonn Bell: Signing a deal with the Panthers. (Tom Pelissero and Ian Rapoport)

New Orleans Saints

  • QB Derek Carr: Signed a four-year, $150 million contract that includes $60 million fully guaranteed at signing, with another $10 million guaranteed in Year 3, vesting after Year 1. Carr's deal, which also features a no-trade clause, has $100 million in total guarantees. (Ian Rapoport and Mike Garafolo)
  • QB Jameis Winston: Re-signing on a one-year deal with a max value of $8 million. (Ian Rapoport)
  • TE Juwan Johnson: Signed a two-year, $12 million contract extension that includes $8.5 million fully guaranteed. Johnson would've been a restricted free agent at the start of the new league year. (Tom Pelissero)
  • DE Tanoh Kpassagnon: Signed a two-year, $6 million extension that includes $2.5 million fully guaranteed. (Ian Rapoport)
  • DB J.T. Gray: Signing a three-year deal worth $9.6 million. The contract has a max value of $11.1 million and includes $2.4 million at signing. (Ian Rapoport)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

  • CB Jamel Dean: Re-signing with the Bucs. (Ian Rapoport)

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Arizona Cardinals



Los Angeles Rams


San Francisco 49ers


Seattle Seahawks

 
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Anything to do with Rodgers never seems to be less than drawn out and painful !

Bradberry's agent might be asking for too much green !

Seaatle and the 49ers look set to battle out the NFC West again. The other two teams are in disarray. Can see why McVay was thinking retirement last season, rebuilds must be painful for coaches. Darnold to the 49ers was an odd one, contract details will be interesting. Buccs are supposed to be pursuing Baker Mayfield.
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Seems like Danica got out in time?
 
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Incredible post there about FA! That must have taken a bit of effort!

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Anything to do with Rodgers never seems to be less than drawn out and painful !
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I can picture it now, the contract is all set, everyone seems happy. But then Jets GM

AR moved on from Danica (I think she dumped him actually) about 3 gfs ago. He was dating the Divergent girl for a while. She's kind of weird too, but that didn't work. Now he's on to that earth child girl.

As to the Rams, they could rebuild in as soon as 2 years. Don't forget that in 2020 the Eagles won just 4 games, and the 49ers just 6.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Incredible post there about FA! That must have taken a bit of effort!


I can picture it now, the contract is all set, everyone seems happy. But then Jets GM

AR moved on from Danica (I think she dumped him actually) about 3 gfs ago. He was dating the Divergent girl for a while. She's kind of weird too, but that didn't work. Now he's on to that earth child girl.

As to the Rams, they could rebuild in as soon as 2 years. Don't forget that in 2020 the Eagles won just 4 games, and the 49ers just 6.
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The Rams might have to work harder and smarter to be back in two years. That time period will see out Donald and Stafford's career although both players are past their best, still, not the easiest players to replace. Eagles lucked out with Hurts but it was strange that the previous coach didn't seem to see the Hurts potential as much as the current coach. So the Rams are going to have to find another great bedrock defender and a franchise QB plus everything else. They are dropping players left, right and center at the moment. But yes turnarounds can happen pretty quick in the NFL but its much easier to stay relevant regularly re the Chiefs with canny buying and selling once you get the SB win but all it takes is a bad season with injuries re the 49ers or draft picks not to show out then its back to square one. Denver and the Texans have done well in free agency and the Bears struck gold trading that first pick

Rodgers is determined to stay wacky until his career is over. The ex partners don't seem to want to re-sign him either............... The FA post was cut and paste from the NFL site.
 
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SF gets another big DEEF Rusher, Javon Hargrave from the Iggles @ 4 yrs/$80mil. Seattle does the same with Dre'Mont Jones @ 3yrs/$51mil from the gift that keeps giving, Denver.
So the division could get down to which QB has the quickest release and best O Line. Sounds like a race with LA and Arizona either on Yard Sale mode or still trying to kumbaya with key players.
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Tonight the Hawks announce the return of D rusher Jarran Reed from the Packers. Gotta love the vibe coming to this defense.
 
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