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Minshew, who showed why he's a career back-up, despite his Unitas award.
Minshew, as a 6th rounder, was never drafted as a potential starter/franchise QB. You know 5th, 6th & 7th rounders are primarily drafted as backups. Minshew was thrown into the starting lineup because of injuries to the starter. And I don't think he's the one in a lifetime Brady anomaly either. Lol.
 
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You're not watching the same guy as I am then. I guess we'll find out, because I'm sure Sanders (and Ward) will be taken very high. We can thus expect then with all their incredible talent they've shown to step right into the NFL and turn whatever team drafts them around, fairly quickly. Right?

Chris Simms thinks the Lions may be sleeping on the 49ers. The classic "trap" game. He says SF matches up well, it's in SF, the Lions are as banged up as the 49ers. I also will add Za'Darius Smith hasn't done much since arriving in Detroit. Just 2 sacks in 6 games.
 
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Chris Simms thinks the Lions may be sleeping on the 49ers. The classic "trap" game. He says SF matches up well, it's in SF, the Lions are as banged up as the 49ers. I also will add Za'Darius Smith hasn't done much since arriving in Detroit. Just 2 sacks in 6 games.
Great game so far 21-21 but I think Lions should have went for the field goal. Save the fourth down plays for the coming weeks. Buck said on the broadcast Montgomery could be back next week for the Vikings game.
 
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Nice win for Detroit after falling behind.

I'll be surprised if Montgomery is back next week. He had a bad MCL sprain that they thought might be a partial tear until 3 medical opinions later it was revealed he wouldn't have surgery. But even an MCL sprain usually takes several weeks to heal from. But I'm also no doctor.
 
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Nice win for Detroit after falling behind.

I'll be surprised if Montgomery is back next week. He had a bad MCL sprain that they thought might be a partial tear until 3 medical opinions later it was revealed he wouldn't have surgery. But even an MCL sprain usually takes several weeks to heal from. But I'm also no doctor.
Well you just know the 49ers are going to screw up in the 4th quarter like they have all season. Thought Pearsall had his best game so far and Gibbs is a handful for any defense. 49ers kicker surely has one foot out the door along with the special teams coach. But the Lions defense once again were unimpressive. Bosa had a great game for the 49ers as banged up as he is with oblique and hip issues.
 
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Well you just know the 49ers are going to screw up in the 4th quarter like they have all season. Thought Pearsall had his best game so far and Gibbs is a handful for any defense. 49ers kicker surely has one foot out the door along with the special teams coach. But the Lions defense once again were unimpressive. Bosa had a great game for the 49ers as banged up as he is with quad and hip issues.
Lions defense got the turnovers when they needed it most though. I thought Lions were going to lose by 3 or less after not kicking the field goal on their third drive. When you’re in a shoot out, it’s always better taking the points so you stay within 1 score and if your defense gets a stop you can jump ahead. Would have made things less hectic in the second half for them. I stopped watching the end of the game with 2 mins left checked after a couple mins on Google, but they didn’t update the results. It had the niners on the lions 6 1st and goal 40-34 with 40 something seconds left. I was like wtf just happened. Lions will be in another shoot out next week against a better defense, scoring will be key. I think Lions need to have the mindset of scoring on every drive even if it’s a field goal. That one seed bye is huge with their week 5 bye being so long ago. It’ll be a hell of a game this upcoming Sunday.
 
Lions defense got the turnovers when they needed it most though. I thought Lions were going to lose by 3 or less after not kicking the field goal on their third drive. When you’re in a shoot out, it’s always better taking the points so you stay within 1 score and if your defense gets a stop you can jump ahead. Would have made things less hectic in the second half for them. I stopped watching the end of the game with 2 mins left checked after a couple mins on Google, but they didn’t update the results. It had the niners on the lions 6 1st and goal 40-34 with 40 something seconds left. I was like wtf just happened. Lions will be in another shoot out next week against a better defense, scoring will be key. I think Lions need to have the mindset of scoring on every drive even if it’s a field goal. That one seed bye is huge with their week 5 bye being so long ago. It’ll be a hell of a game this upcoming Sunday.
Sure but one of the picks was from a wild Purdy overthrow and the other one was a good read by the Lions player. A struggling 49ers offense was moving the ball easily against the Lions and they have only done that a few times this season but Shanahan did call a good game in the first half. Purdy has turned the ball over a lot more this season, while the third string O line did better than expected. Couple of stupid penalties also cost them not to mention the missed kicks.
 
Sure but one of the picks was from a wild Purdy overthrow and the other one was a good read by the Lions player. A struggling 49ers offense was moving the ball easily against the Lions and they have only done that a few times this season but Shanahan did call a good game in the first half. Purdy has turned the ball over a lot more this season, while the third string O line did better than expected. Couple of stupid penalties also cost them not to mention the missed kicks.
Lots of coded language during the game.. Purdy looking for a renegotiation to get fat long term deal, commentators hinting that Purdy's performance has his value going down.. Purdy on rookie contract and multiple injuries and declining level of play. For me seeing the Falcons- Commanders game was a stark contrast to Purdy play.. He looks nowhere near the 2 rookies.
 
Sure but one of the picks was from a wild Purdy overthrow and the other one was a good read by the Lions player. A struggling 49ers offense was moving the ball easily against the Lions and they have only done that a few times this season but Shanahan did call a good game in the first half. Purdy has turned the ball over a lot more this season, while the third string O line did better than expected. Couple of stupid penalties also cost them not to mention the missed kicks.
Sure they were bad throws but the Lions defenders got the interception. They need to deliver on the turnovers opportunities the opposing team gives them and so far they have been. They have the leagues leader in interceptions while being; 4th in turnover differential, tied for 3rd in team interceptions, 9th in points, 1st in third down stoppage, 2nd fourth down stoppage, and 12th in redzone efficiency on defense so far, albeit helped some from when they still had their starters. Where they stink at is yards given up and letting the opposing offense get long drives. We just saw the Steelers get 4 opportunities at a turnover and couldn’t get a single one against the Chiefs. The Lions defense might get chewed up but they’ve gotten the stops when they needed them to try and help the offense. It’s just on the offense to score majority or all of the drives.
 
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You're not watching the same guy as I am then. I guess we'll find out, because I'm sure Sanders (and Ward) will be taken very high. We can thus expect then with all their incredible talent they've shown to step right into the NFL and turn whatever team drafts them around, fairly quickly. Right?
Yes, Sanders & Ward will be taken very high and who goes first will probably be determined after the Combine/Pro day workouts. After that there's a big drop off with Milroe (some mocks have him going late in the 1st while others have him in the 2nd). Not a big QB class compared to last year.

And maybe Sanders or Ward will make an immediate impact "turning the team around." Don't know yet. Daniels has done it & if Nix wins against the Chiefs the team makes the playoffs for the first time since 2015 & the Manning days.

And Daniels has really done it. If they win against Dallas they go 12-5 which is a complete reversal from last year's 4-13 debacle. And Daniels was an incredible talent at LSU. He won just about every award out there (Heisman, Johnny Unitas Golden Arm, Davey O'Brien & Manning). Look at his stats now: Over 3500 yds passing (101 rating) 864 yds rushing on 6.0 average, 31 combined TDs. Very impressive for rookie dual-threat RPO guy! One thing is for certain, he must have one helluva QB coach:

 
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Nomad, curious if you see many parallels between Jayden Daniels and Primetime Jr? Reading an expected complimentary piece written about Daniels and his composer and demeanor included as attributes.. Don't see Sanders with same personal makeup.. And if he shows up to NFL with any hint of entitlement or " don't you know who I am? " that's going to be a liability..
Still waiting for La Var Ball's football equivalent to start making noise!!!
 
Purdy will get paid, well. But I never thought he'd get a massive, record breaking deal. He's plenty good enough to win you games, and maybe one day a Super Bowl. He didn't lose that game last year, Kyle Shanahan did. Despite the one really bad throw last night, he also threw some really nice passes. He's on the border of being an "elite" QB, but not right now. My guess is he lands in the $35-45m per year range. Somewhere around what Mayfield, Stafford, Carr, Cousins, Watson make. He won't get a massive guarantee of cash, and it will be structured over time to be somewhat team friendly, but he'll make plenty of money.

Here's a list on Spotrac of who makes what.
 
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Purdy will get paid, well. But I never thought he'd get a massive, record breaking deal. He's plenty good enough to win you games, and maybe one day a Super Bowl. He didn't lose that game last year, Kyle Shanahan did. Despite the one really bad throw last night, he also threw some really nice passes. He's on the border of being an "elite" QB, but not right now. My guess is he lands in the $35-45m per year range. Somewhere around what Mayfield, Stafford, Carr, Cousins, Watson make. He won't get a massive guarantee of cash, and it will be structured over time to be somewhat team friendly, but he'll make plenty of money.

Here's a list on Spotrac of who makes what.
Brock P. or Sam D.? I'll take Sam after this year (and hope that this is really him). But, IMO, pretty even QB1s who will both be making their case and likely staying in their existing locker (there is JJ at MIN though which even though he is NFL unproven, MIN can use as a negotiating chip).
 
Purdy will get paid, well. But I never thought he'd get a massive, record breaking deal. He's plenty good enough to win you games, and maybe one day a Super Bowl. He didn't lose that game last year, Kyle Shanahan did. Despite the one really bad throw last night, he also threw some really nice passes. He's on the border of being an "elite" QB, but not right now. My guess is he lands in the $35-45m per year range. Somewhere around what Mayfield, Stafford, Carr, Cousins, Watson make. He won't get a massive guarantee of cash, and it will be structured over time to be somewhat team friendly, but he'll make plenty of money.

Here's a list on Spotrac of who makes what.
Think he's going to get more than 35-45 based on some of the players getting more than that re Lawrence and Dak and even Herbert who is doing better this season. Even Daniel Jones got 40 so did Carr. I'd be surprised if it wasn't 50 at least. His past season and half were better than this season and the whole team has had a down year this year except for Kittle. The most worrying thing is his 4th quarter play, more picks and bad decision making which wasn't apparent last season. But he had to do without CMC and Aiyuk, the number one WR and RB, Williams out or banged up for the the majority of the season and a mediocre O line which got worse with injuries and an injured D line. He wasn't to blame for many of the losses as the special teams kept messing up in close games as well and rank on the bottom of the league. The fact is at the moment teams like the Lions who are also injured have a lot more depth than the 49ers on an aging team with less depth than the past few seasons. Lions have already rebuilt their lines while the 49ers haven't started to do that.

Al lot of talking heads think the last SB was their time to get it done and they were probably right. The only thing in their favour next year is a much easier schedule but they need a good draft and no one knows how Greenlaw, Aiyuk, CMC and Williams will be when they return and Greenlaw has yet to be extended. The SB is at Santa Clara next season which will give them some extra motivation but you are going to see the end of the 2019 squad which has already been losing players but the remaining stars are all in the latter parts of their career. After this season the squad will have to have at least a mini rebuild especially on both lines also taking into account the remaining finances after the Purdy contract and probable extensions for Kittle and Greenlaw.
 
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Sure they were bad throws but the Lions defenders got the interception. They need to deliver on the turnovers opportunities the opposing team gives them and so far they have been. They have the leagues leader in interceptions while being; 4th in turnover differential, tied for 3rd in team interceptions, 9th in points, 1st in third down stoppage, 2nd fourth down stoppage, and 12th in redzone efficiency on defense so far, albeit helped some from when they still had their starters. Where they stink at is yards given up and letting the opposing offense get long drives. We just saw the Steelers get 4 opportunities at a turnover and couldn’t get a single one against the Chiefs. The Lions defense might get chewed up but they’ve gotten the stops when they needed them to try and help the offense. It’s just on the offense to score majority or all of the drives.
True and the 49ers haven't been getting turnovers like last season or they have had opportunities and haven't taken advantage of them. They didn't really get any opportunities in the Lions game as Goff played a pretty clean game. The 49ers have struggled in the red zone all season on offense but they had no trouble against the Bears and Lions. Last season they were at the top. Their red zone defense has also gone through the floor. The Lions are so good on offense that they will have a shot in the playoffs but they will have to play mistake free football to beat the better teams and hope the offense can score 35 or more and the defense keeps getting turnovers.
 
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NFL needs to follow the UFL. First, make every review "expedited" by an overseeing team of officials. Next. make every single play, every call, subject to challenge. One challenge per half.

The only reason I don't think Purdy will get a huge deal is because more than a couple teams are regretting handing out enormous contracts to QBs who didn't come close to earning the money.

My guess is if Darnold plays at the same level he has been, even if the Vikings are beaten in the 1st round of the playoffs, there's a very good chance the Vikings will just franchise tag him. That would be $45m for one year, fully guaranteed. This would allow JJ McCarthey to sit another year while Darnold gets another shot.

Milroe looked only so-so for 'Bama, in a mistake filled game. Sloppy play early, some good plays late.

And just as quick Penn State finishes Boise, proving the NCAA screwed up their bracket. At least the NFL isn't this bad in it's seeding. Drew Allar may be a force next year.
 
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My guess is if Darnold plays at the same level he has been, even if the Vikings are beaten in the 1st round of the playoffs, there's a very good chance the Vikings will just franchise tag him. That would be $45m for one year, fully guaranteed. This would allow JJ McCarthey to sit another year while Darnold gets another shot.
If they franchise Darnold, there's no way McCarthy stays there. Remember he's the10th OA pick in one of the best QB classes we've seen in recent memory. And with Penix Jr playing now, all of these 1st rounders have started. McCarthy isn't going to want to sit the bench even for a year if Darnold is the franchise QB moving forward. There are teams that would be very interested in McCarthy.


 
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Nomad, curious if you see many parallels between Jayden Daniels and Primetime Jr? Reading an expected complimentary piece written about Daniels and his composer and demeanor included as attributes.. Don't see Sanders with same personal makeup.. And if he shows up to NFL with any hint of entitlement or " don't you know who I am? " that's going to be a liability..
Still waiting for La Var Ball's football equivalent to start making noise!!!
No parallels between the two. They have completely different personalities. When it comes to Sanders' personality look no further than his dad - he's a chip off the old block. That being said though, I'm sure Prime isn't going to let his son bring in any arrogant, negative attitude to whatever team drafts him. Prime knows how the business works - he's not going to let his son get off to a bad start with an attitude problem.
 
If they franchise Darnold, there's no way McCarthy stays there.
Keep in mind, O'Connell said at the start of the season (when JJ was healthy) there was no possible chance he was starting, period. He was adamant about it. Then again, if they believe in Darnold, and someone offered a king's ransom for JJ, I'd consider dealing him too.

I find it interesting that Tennessee is giving up on Levis so soon, when their entire team is a total mess. Levis has been hot/cold, some impressive throws, some very bad ones. The Bengals game was awful. But Mason Rudolph hasn't played much better, and a big step down from his time in Pittsburgh last season. If the Titans think JJ is going to show up, put on a pale blue jersey, and magically do way better than these two guys, they're dreaming. Regardless of where he was drafted.
 
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NFL needs to follow the UFL. First, make every review "expedited" by an overseeing team of officials. Next. make every single play, every call, subject to challenge. One challenge per half.

The only reason I don't think Purdy will get a huge deal is because more than a couple teams are regretting handing out enormous contracts to QBs who didn't come close to earning the money.

My guess is if Darnold plays at the same level he has been, even if the Vikings are beaten in the 1st round of the playoffs, there's a very good chance the Vikings will just franchise tag him. That would be $45m for one year, fully guaranteed. This would allow JJ McCarthey to sit another year while Darnold gets another shot.

Milroe looked only so-so for 'Bama, in a mistake filled game. Sloppy play early, some good plays late.

And just as quick Penn State finishes Boise, proving the NCAA screwed up their bracket. At least the NFL isn't this bad in it's seeding. Drew Allar may be a force next year.
The Vikings are in an interesting position. They won't want to overpay Darnold as they have another supposedly good QB who won't cost them much at the moment. But if they underpay Darnold they run the risk of losing him to another team. It all depends on Darnold and his agent as to how he values himself in the current market but Darnold also knows that he landed in a good place with a good coach and plenty of talent on the team unlike his time with the Panthers and Jets. Darnold is also still young so the length of the contract offered will be interesting. Don't think the Vikings will want to pay much more than 40, similar to the Baker deal after he had a good comeback season with the Buccs.