New Cervelo

[Race Radio]

http://www.cervelo.com/en_us/engineering/project-california/

Made in the USA.

 

[davidg]

700g, that's light. Not cheap either.

Looks like the team will be buying plenty of lead to make the 6.8Kg limit!

 

[karlboss]

The Frame/fork bars and stem are the obvious places to add weight/stiffness. Light wheels are always beneficial. A seatpost would be better if it flexed a little pedals, cranks go round, as long as the group set works, make it light. So why the hell are we bragging over a light frame that, as pointed out, needs weight added to it to race? You could make a frame over a kilo, more comfortable and stiffer and cheaper.

Ah well, its not my money.

 

[flyor64]

The Frame/fork bars and stem are the obvious places to add weight/stiffness. Light wheels are always beneficial. A seatpost would be better if it flexed a little pedals, cranks go round, as long as the group set works, make it light. So why the hell are we bragging over a light frame that, as pointed out, needs weight added to it to race? You could make a frame over a kilo, more comfortable and stiffer and cheaper.

Ah well, its not my money.

For the weight wheenies???

I think they even have their own website...

 

[Race Radio]

So why the hell are we bragging over a light frame that, as pointed out, needs weight added to it to race? You could make a frame over a kilo, more comfortable and stiffer and cheaper.

Ah well, its not my money.

You would be surprised how many people that buy Cervelo's who are not UCI Pro's and don't care about weight limits.

I hear the new Frame is over $9,000. Wow!

 

[Big GMaC]

You would be surprised how many people that buy Cervelo's who are not UCI Pro's and don't care about weight limits.

I hear the new Frame is over $9,000. Wow!

for example this man. He has a new Cervelo waiting for him at home

 

[Black Dog]

A solution to a non existant problem

Here is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Unless your problem is a lack of novel ways to display your material status. This is not for the pro riders, as the bikes will need extra mass to bring up to 6.8kg, it is pure marketing. The pros will toss these after one season, and this will not have to worry about frame failure.

Why not make a 900-1000 gram frame that is durable and has all the ride characteristics that anyone could want. Overbuild it and add in a wider safety margin. A $9000 frame that evaporates during a crash? There has to be a market for great performing frames that are very durable. Anyone who thinks that a few 100 grams matters is delusional and has no understanding of basic physics. The weight saving obsession that has been fuelled by marketing has brain washed too many riders. It is irrational non-sense and all these claims are never backed up with any evidence.

Wow...that was a bit of a rant...sorry.

 

[miffed]

Of cause its silly, but I bet these same arguements were being trotted out when steel went to aluminium and for carbon fibres introduction.

Of cause the newest lightest frames will be expensive and only for the super rich, but there is some trickle down and no one if forcing anyone to buy the top frames.

If anything it makes the more realistic bikes for us mere mortals cheaper, or at least moves the quality of bikes we aim for up a notch, as for every new top of the range frame that's introduced then the rest of the range gets knocked down a peg.

Plus if theres not a stupidly light, grotesquely expensive new bike/wheels/frame/derailer about to be launched to drool over what will we spend our waking hours doing?

 

[ravens]

Of cause its silly, but I bet these same arguements were being trotted out when steel went to aluminium and for carbon fibres introduction.

Of cause the newest lightest frames will be expensive and only for the super rich, but there is some trickle down and no one if forcing anyone to buy the top frames.

http://testrider.com/fly.aspx?layout=videoindex&taxid=82&cid=60

I think John Neugent makes some good points in this interview. I think his bikes are basically knocked off cervelo soloists or whatever they are calling them now. Especially when he describes how knowledge must be shared by the designers with the factory.

 

[ravens]

You would be surprised how many people that buy Cervelo's who are not UCI Pro's and don't care about weight limits.

I hear the new Frame is over $9,000. Wow!

There seem to be a lot of lawyers at one particular ride I used to attend.

Do they hand out a Serrotta with the Law Degree?

 

[Laszlo]

well a $9g frame and the time to ride it just rams home the importance of a good education.

 

[usedtobefast]

There seem to be a lot of lawyers at one particular ride I used to attend.

Do they hand out a Serrotta with the Law Degree?

yes. and a merlin.