New doping affair in Spain

[mewmewmew13]

Girona is a PED free Oasis. Always has been.

Dave.

yes, home of the 'clean team'.

 

[CowboyTx]

You can be a European Champ on the track
Geraint Thomas was a European team pursuit champ for example. As opposed to Bradley Wiggins being a world champ.
I doubt it's anything to do with them though, they are British and therefore strict adherents to the spirit of fairplay that gave Britain her empire.

 

[ElChingon]

Adding in the pic's

Not that I can really tell what's what in those huge stashes, maybe someone else?

 

[CowboyTx]

WOW!
Somewhere there's a rider with a very poorly pet dog and mother-in-law

 

[roundabout]

I'd give it 3 months or so before the case falls apart.

I also pity the foreigners.

 

[Bala Verde]

if it's a Spanish team, you can go browse here:

http://www.rfec.com/vistas/equipos/equipos.aspx

 

[Epicycle]

Top pic says 3 types of erectile dysfunction meds. The bottom pic is Tadalafil, the ED pill sold as Cialis in the US, and growth hormone. Hard to tell what's in the middle pic but it looks like a variety of stuff.

 

[hrotha]

Adding in the pic's



Not that I can really tell what's what in those huge stashes, maybe someone else?

According to the police report, these guys dealt HGH and counterfeit meds, mostly for erectile dysfunction. Apparently, they didn't deal EPO - that belonged to the masters club's director.

 

[riobonito92]

So a bunch of old men are taking Cialis. Whatever next?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Viagra for the win. WoW!

 

[riobonito92]

Here's a question though.

Should masters riders, especially those over 45, be prevented from taking a drug for its intended medicinal purpose just becuase it is on the banned list? I accept that younger, especially elite and professional riders should have to make this sacrifice, but it seems dogmatic to hold part-time amateur master's to the same standards.

 

[Oldman]

Here's a question though.

Should masters riders, especially those over 45, be prevented from taking a drug for its intended medicinal purpose just becuase it is on the banned list? I accept that younger, especially elite and professional riders should have to make this sacrifice, but it seems dogmatic to hold part-time amateur master's to the same standards.

Masters riders that need to take a drug to live their life should. They should also be able to separate that priority from the need to compete in a controlled environment. They're still free to hammer on training sessions and be happy. Unfortunately the justification provided by the medical community to consume a remedy for every new, advertised dysfunction and the fragile egos of aging athletes tend to cross ethical lines with ease.
Not every person is born equal mentally or physically.

 

[nevada]

Viagra for the win. WoW!

Viagra for the podium shot !

 

[fcojavier]

According to the police report, these guys dealt HGH and counterfeit meds, mostly for erectile dysfunction. Apparently, they didn't deal EPO - that belonged to the masters club's director.

The director was arrested when receiving EPO from the dealers (implying they were dealing with EPO):

"Con posterioridad a las primeras detenciones se desencadenaron cuatro nuevos arrestos, entre ellos el del director general de un conocido equipo ciclista, en el que se encuentran inscritos varios antiguos campeones de mundo y de Europa de este deporte. La detención se produjo en el momento que recibían una importante cantidad de epoetina alfa, sustancia conocida como EPO."

There is a masters world champion with a nandrolona positive who races for a team in Madrid.
This was during the 2010 Spanish Master40 championship:
http://www.vanguardia.com.mx/acusadodedopajepresidentedeciclismo-615491.html

The police press release does not show pro riders or proteams in this dealer net, maybe just master Spanish teams with Spanish and World Master champions.
Also, Girona is far away from Valencia or Madrid. Doesn´t seem to be any pro team implied in the deal at this moment.

 

[Fester]

A couple of things spring up at me from this:

No professional cyclists involved. This might suggest (and I believe this) that preparation for racing has moved on and drugs do not play the significant role they did in the past. Certainly performances seem humanly possible.

British. Does Britain have any anti-doping laws? I'm afraid that for all their chest thumping, it may be just that. I feel every nation in Europe needs anti-doping legislation to really crack down on it.

Police. The only effective anti-doping agency. Anti-doping needs to be classed as some type of fraud or financial crime. Then I believe more governments will step in with the required legislation.

Spain. Puerto may have been a shambles, but it seems far from the doping haven it once might have been. Same for Italy, France.

Masters!? What's wrong with these lunatics??

 

[GreasyMonkey]

Masters!? What's wrong with these lunatics??

At least in Spain, Masters start with the U-23's, and if you are dropped by 2 minutes, you get pulled and in the broom-wagon.

That is an incentive (need) to dope if ever there was one, given the way the U-23's are racing in Spain (most likely doped to the gills, chasing a chance at a pro contract).

Glad I haven't bothered getting my Masters license since moving to Spain

 

[ingsve]

I can certainly imagine that since providing drugs to professionals has become more and more risky with all the investigations going on that the people providing the drugs have turned to masters racing as well. They still have the products and they still want their money so they are probably expanding their market when their other market is drying up a little.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Isn't this the Spanish Authorities doing a UCI - bust the little guys and leave the bigger fish alone.

 

[sniper]

Isn't this the Spanish Authorities doing a UCI - bust the little guys and leave the bigger fish alone.

my thougts exactly.
so they bust a bunch of amateurs to take the heat off of the pros.
"Spain ahead in the fight against doping".

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

When they arrest Pepe Marti then I'll believe that the Spanish are serious about doping. Until then this type of raid is just window dressing.

 

[Oldman]

When they arrest Pepe Marti then I'll believe that the Spanish are serious about doping. Until then this type of raid is just window dressing.

It smells like an middleman bust, doesn't it? As for Fester's belief this somehow reduces the Pro profile of use...how do you draw that conclusion? This is just one drug ring of many and the Pros have their own sources. Only Popo would be dumb enough to buy it online.

 

[L'arriviste]

After high expectations last night, I must declare myself very disappointed with this story.

Both from the point of view of old duffers feeling that they matter enough to charge up and the fact that a decent-shaped Spanish bust is long overdue.

 

[Oldman]

After high expectations last night, I must declare myself very disappointed with this story.

Both from the point of view of old duffers feeling that they matter enough to charge up and the fact that a decent-shaped Spanish bust is long overdue.

I didn't get that this was Masters using so much as being part of the distribution. Did I miss something other than the reference to the Coach laying claim to the personal stash of EPO? How much for one rider's use?

 

[riobonito92]

Masters riders that need to take a drug to live their life should. They should also be able to separate that priority from the need to compete in a controlled environment. They're still free to hammer on training sessions and be happy. Unfortunately the justification provided by the medical community to consume a remedy for every new, advertised dysfunction and the fragile egos of aging athletes tend to cross ethical lines with ease.
Not every person is born equal mentally or physically.

That's what I meant by being dogmatic. I don't see why a non-pro, non-elite older rider should not be able to take something to perk up their sex life, even if it is technically a PED, AND ride officially sanctioned races.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

2 bad the toy pistol was not caught up in this...


They busted these guys so they can let the "Pro's" off the line. BFD. SS