New Lance positives in 2004 and 2005

[thehog]

This is not sinking in for me.... I could see pre-WADA samples vanishing. How many samples? Over what time period? It's a legitimate question.

Passport samples are not drug tested. They're only used to baseline and establish the possible use of manipulation from transfusions etc.

The results were recorded but samples destroyed.

Don't worry. USADA has the data, teammate testimony and retested other samples at the same time to prove the drug use.

And they have Sheryl.

 

[peacefultribe]

I think that is pretty much it for most of us velogirl..
most of us are appalled at his smallness, meanness and general lowball persona.

True, true, true.

Most people hate bullies.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Passport samples are not drug tested. They're only used to baseline and establish the possible use of manipulation from transfusions etc.

Blood samples for longitudinal scores vs. urine samples for presence tests. Correct?

To improve my own knowledge, are blood samples stored as a general policy excluding Wonderboy for eight years or is that just urine samples?

 

[Chris85]

"Today’s programme said that these witnesses include Floyd Landis, Jonathan Vaughters, Levi Leipheimer, Dave Zabriskie, Christian Vande Velde and George Hincapie, the only rider to back Armstrong during his previously-successful seven Tours."

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...lso-that-ex-wife-testified.aspx#ixzz25NjVgv67

Hincapie is the Golden Goose.

 

[runninboy]

Just reading the Velonation article.

So it's definitely true that USADA are using evidence from Kristin also? Like it's no surprise she would of spoken to the feds but it's big news if she gave evidence willingly without no problem to USADA. Wow.

Probably an ex-wife with a grudge I say.

I always wonder if she had been used, as she was a nurse and met lance during his recovery from cancer. She would have had alot of easy access to PED's. My sister actually once had a nurse steal the moriphine that was supposed to go in her iv drip. She complained after her operation that she never got her pain meds, the hospital found the nurse had some other complaints and found she was stealing patients meds. If you read the mike anderson thread in the clinic he said Lance was pretty cold to his wife when he dumped her. All speculation but if Lance had her doing something to compromise her professional integrity she might want to set the record straight.

 

[Captain Kirk]

I think that is pretty much it for most of us velogirl..
most of us are appalled at his smallness, meanness and general lowball persona.

+ another, well said...

 

[sittingbison]

I think that is pretty much it for most of us velogirl..
most of us are appalled at his smallness, meanness and general noball persona.

+1 (and fixed )

 

[Bushranger]

French TV reported tonight.

I guess more details to follow in the USADA report.

YES!!! Water is leaking from the cracks in the dam wall. Won't be long now.
It's like waiting for French Santa.

 

[Bushranger]

any idea how were they covered up?
payments?

It sounds like old samples were retested. Good question as to how they were not positive at the time. Does anyone know who did the testing? Are WADA already in the know? IMO this is what the USADA would not have wanted the UCI to have just yet.

 

[argyllflyer]

It sounds like old samples were retested. Good question as to how they were not positive at the time. Does anyone know who did the testing? Are WADA already in the know? IMO this is what the USADA would not have wanted the UCI to have just yet.

Avoiding the conspiracy for now, lack of an effective test?

 

[airstream]

it could be cera in 2003 i think or it could be some of its heralds used in the peloton. because only very very little scraps of information always reach us whereas cera modifications could appear every year since say 2005 at least. that is very agile market. sadly, as always cheat's technology is way ahead of prosecutor's one. it's vicious circle and, to my great regret, the reason why doping is invincible.

hehe, indeed that was a famous story about the stage via Col de Schluht. i find this a miracle that Lance himself wasn't dropped on that day!

 

[Maxiton]

To keep everyone warm & fuzzy the UCI sent all major cycling news outlets a memo that if they suggest The UCI covered up results they will sue.

How can you sue news sites for reporting the news?

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...ong-was-regularly-tipped-off-about-tests.aspx

I guess UCI will just have to sue AFLD.

 

[DirtyWorks]

sadly, as always cheat's technology is way ahead of prosecutor's one. it's vicious circle and, to my great regret, the reason why doping is invincible.

I think we'll find out what it I as the wada process continues.

This is the exact reason for back-dated testing. Wada should have a budget and the authority to open current cases on 5 - 8 year old samples.

Only the truly stupid would bother doping to current levels. There would still be some very low-dose doping.

I've lost count on the number of suppressed positives. Somehow, I think hein and pat are covering worse for Wonderboy. This is not the kind of thing they would risk IOC recognition over.

 

[Walkman]

To keep everyone warm & fuzzy the UCI sent all major cycling news outlets a memo that if they suggest The UCI covered up results they will sue.

Is this for real?! Have you got any source?

 

[AcademyCC]

To keep everyone warm & fuzzy the UCI sent all major cycling news outlets a memo that if they suggest The UCI covered up results they will sue.

Can you at least provide an indication where this is coming from?

Whilst I could fully believe it, it is a very strong accusation to be making with no link.

 

[thehog]

Is this for real?! Have you got any source?

NY Velocity und Cycling News.

 

[Walkman]

NY Velocity und Cycling News.

I might be an idiot but I am not finding it, so if you could provide a link, that would be great!

 

[krebs303]

I might be an idiot but I am not finding it, so if you could provide a link, that would be great!

+1......................................

 

[JRTinMA]

I might be an idiot but I am not finding it, so if you could provide a link, that would be great!

You're not an idiot, it doesn't exist.

 

[AcademyCC]

Yeah link please

 

[thehog]

I might be an idiot but I am not finding it, so if you could provide a link, that would be great!

@nyvelocity
UCI threatening journos they will sue if they say UCI helped Lance.
2 Sep

@laura_weisol
@nyvelocity really? I wasn't threatened with being sued, only spoken harshly to.

 

[AcademyCC]

@nyvelocity
UCI threatening journos they will sue if they say UCI helped Lance.
2 Sep

@laura_weisol
@nyvelocity really? I wasn't threatened with being sued, only spoken harshly to.

Thanks. That's a story all in itself. I'm hoping these clowns at the UCI are on there last legs, it's so hard to take. Fans of any sport would be shocked at this but with the UCI it's just another day at the office.

 

[the big ring]

I might be an idiot but I am not finding it, so if you could provide a link, that would be great!

You're not an idiot, it doesn't exist.

A google search for "UCI threatening" turns up some results. Not just with this, but with other friendly behaviour exhibited to just about all and sundry by our benevolent overlords at Unlimited Corruption, Inc. aka UCI.

 

[ToreBear]

If I were the Cycling outlets, this would be my top story. UCI threatens media! UCI warns of consequences! etc.

That should make a lot of people notice how low the UCI has sunk.

 

[sittingbison]

lets not forget that Hein and Fat Pat have said they are sueing Kimmage. For the grand sum of $8000, plus he pays for a public retraction lol. I'm not sure if it has advanced though