Newsflash. Brian Cookson, british cycling, to stand against Pat McQuaid (SUI) for uci

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thehog said:
There goes Sky's protection for the Tour.

Hein has the power to make you positive.

Foolish move.

Cookson. No chance.

Who cares about the nationalistic stuff, there's a lot of hate for Pat anyway so I think he stands a chance.

If Cookson is elected, I think it will significantly diminish the power of the duopoly Hein pulling strings with the IOC and Pat with the UCI.
 
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thehog said:
There goes Sky's protection for the Tour.

Hein has the power to make you positive.

Foolish move.

Cookson. No chance.

why not the other way around? McQuaid can't promise total SKY total protection, that is why Cookson has to run. :D
 
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Briant_Gumble said:
I think it will significantly diminish the power of the duopoly Hein pulling strings with the IOC and Pat with the UCI.
And I believe in Orcs and Elfs.

McQuaid is just a puppet, a puppet that is done for, his date has expired, and he knows it too. Who better than the president of British Cycling to replace him?

His affiliation with Team Sky makes him uncredible. The president of the UCI should not have any strings with any team whatsoever.

http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/bcst-contact-Board-of-Directors-Board-of-Directors-0
''He operated as a UCI International Commissaire from 1986-2009, was a member of the jury at the Barcelona Olympics, and has been a member of the UCI Management Committee since 2009.''

So, he was a commissaire in the darkest days of bloodvector doping, no ties with Verbruggen of course...
 
maxmartin said:
why not the other way around? McQuaid can't promise total SKY total protection, that is why Cookson has to run. :D

Cookson must have went to Tenerife to watch Sky train. He watched Froomedawg going full *** and thought he'd have to take over as President to cover up something so obvious.
 
Jul 17, 2012
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That's a quick about turn, even for you

Cookson might be the broom people are looking for, he's got the backing of CCN as I understand, which should mean something. He certainly blindsided McQuaid
 

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Briant_Gumble said:
Who cares about the nationalistic stuff, there's a lot of hate for Pat anyway so I think he stands a chance.

If Cookson is elected, I think it will significantly diminish the power of the duopoly Hein pulling strings with the IOC and Pat with the UCI.

Yes & no.
While Pat is looked as a boofoon by the ordinary members, the voting members are not interested in his personality but what he delivers for them. So he still retains some support.

As for Hein - well it depends on what Cooksons (& UCI Mgt Com) decide to do next. Replacing McQuaid is necessary but there is little point in replacing him with someone similar. A clean break is needed and Pat & Hein need to be sent packing.
 
thehog said:
There goes Sky's protection for the Tour.

Hein has the power to make you positive.

Foolish move.

Cookson. No chance.

Do Pat and Hein really want News Corporations army of journo's (The Times, The Sun, Sky GB, Sky Italia, Sky Germany etc) digging up every single little skeleton they have buried?
 
MatParker117 said:
Do Pat and Hein really want News Corporations army of journo's (The Times, The Sun, Sky GB, Sky Italia, Sky Germany etc) digging up every single little skeleton they have buried?

Cycling? No. Football? Maybe. News Corp. wants viewers, pretty much like the UCI.
 
MatParker117 said:
Do Pat and Hein really want News Corporations army of journo's (The Times, The Sun, Sky GB, Sky Italia, Sky Germany etc) digging up every single little skeleton they have buried?

What are you doing here Parker? Isn't Walsh the new press agent for Sky? :rolleyes:

Making threats against Pat?

Well there was a report not so longer ago about Sky and breakaway leagues. Looks like Cookson is the UCI stooge to make it happen like EPL - (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...said-to-discuss-breakaway-cycling-series.html)

JV is commissioning marketing reports no one reads.

Looks like the ducks are lining up nicely for the Sky World Series of Cycling.

(I won't tell anyone about the #cough cough business if you don't)
 
MatParker117 said:
Particularly if Brian's friend James Murdoch decides to run him over hot coals.

Whilst Pat is Mr. Magoo, I have to say I'm shocked that a Sky representative would come on this forum to post threats about the UCI. Using the might of their press organisation.

Do you think Cookson wants to be known like this? Do you think he wants win on this basis?

Is that what we want for cycling? People scared to say anything because Sky will use the backers to print nasty stories?

Are you kidding me?

I've reported your post.

Shame on you.
 
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JimmyFingers said:
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Cookson might be the broom people are looking for, he's got the backing of CCN as I understand, which should mean something. He certainly blindsided McQuaid

That would be welcome news. Links, please? Thank you.

thehog said:
What are you doing here Parker? Isn't Walsh the new press agent for Sky? :rolleyes:

Making threats against Pat?

Well there was a report not so longer ago about Sky and breakaway leagues. Looks like Cookson is the UCI stooge to make it happen like EPL - (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...said-to-discuss-breakaway-cycling-series.html)

JV is commissioning marketing reports no one reads.

Looks like the ducks are lining up nicely for the Sky World Series of Cycling.

(I won't tell anyone about the #cough cough business if you don't)

Hog - if Cookson gets elected, business sense will tell you that things will likely go the OTHER way - no breakaway . . . . . . . . . unless you are a fan of conspiracy theories . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
(intentional ellipses)

thehog said:
Whilst Pat is Mr. Magoo, I have to say I'm shocked that a Sky representative would come on this forum to post threats about the UCI. Using the might of their press organisation.

Do you think Cookson wants to be known like this? Do you think he wants win on this basis?

Is that what we want for cycling? People scared to say anything because Sky will use the backers to print nasty stories?

Are you kidding me?

I've reported your post.

Shame on you.

Hog; are you for real here? Please. Let's get back to reality, without the tongue-in-cheek and/or hidden meanings.
 
hiero2 said:
Hog; are you for real here? Please. Let's get back to reality, without the tongue-in-cheek and/or hidden meanings.

I am.

We just lived through Lance and the UCi using the media to intimidate people into submission.

Now a Sky repesetive is telling us Cookson who is BC and not Sky will use media partners to take down Hein and Pat?

That's what we want for a new UCI president?

What next? No doping questions to Sky riders?

I'm sorry but the minute business and politics mix = disaster.

Sky have no business influencing Cookson. That's wrong.
 
Aug 12, 2009
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thehog said:
There goes Sky's protection for the Tour.

Hein has the power to make you positive.

Foolish move.

Cookson. No chance.

We're going to see positive's hoggie. Positives. The truth is coming. Well done GB, well done.:D
 
So this guy looks like a smarter version of McQuaid but with even more personal entanglements and a willingness to knuckle under to those like Vaughters who want to turn the sport into a version of Formula 1 where the desire of sponsors to push technology onto consumers overrides sporting considerations.
 
DirtyWorks said:
I think this is return to mid-field for most of Sky's riders in 2013.

Some know Cookson is one of the executives at Team Sky, runs BC, and on the UCI's management committee. Hey Martin! Is my crackpot theory of the UCI giving Sky a free doping pass just in time for the 2012 London Games looking any better?

I wonder what's going on with the rest of the UCI's management committee.
I wonder how ASO's bid for the Tour of Britain factors into this.

All very interesting and unexpected.

I disagree. If Cookson does run against McQuaid ([pure speculation]and it's not just some sort of distraction campaign[/pure speculation]) it would be a strong point against that theory, since it would be madness of him to risk that protected status for no real self-serving reason.
 
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Given the fact the Cycling Ireland haven't backed McQuaid and they're having an EGM about it on the 15th, and that the Swiss have only sort of backed him and are having discussions about whether they should, Cookson's move looks like a well timed ambush, when McQuaid is at his most vulnerable.

This isn't a friendly take-over, this isn't a swapping of like for like, it's a power struggle. However since the candidate is British it looks like a fair proportion of you will be cheering for McQuaid :p
 
JimmyFingers said:
Given the fact the Cycling Ireland haven't backed McQuaid and they're having an EGM about it on the 15th, and that the Swiss have only sort of backed him and are having discussions about whether they should, Cookson's move looks like a well timed ambush, when McQuaid is at his most vulnerable.

This is a friendly take-over, this isn't a swapping of like for like, it's a power struggle. However since the candidate is British it looks like a fair proportion of you will be cheering for McQuaid :p

Anything is better than McQuaid IMHO.;)

It could be that Cooksons launch of his candidacy is a signal to the swiss fed that there are people who are willing to take over from Pat, and they should not go out on a limb to keep Pat in office. And since Cookson has been head of the road commission since 2009 they likely would have had contact with him earlier and that might ease their conservative souls.

Hopefully the Irish process leads to McQuaid being rejected, and the Swiss back off from doing anything stupid. Then I hope more candidates become available, that might be even better.

I'm sure Cookson is a good guy, but his positions within the current UCI structure might give some a bad feeling about him.
 
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It has to be anything but McQuaid, there's need to be a change in governance. People may have reservations about the replacement, but healthier to give them time and see if we see a sea change and things like WADA taking over testing, more funding for testing, steeper sentences and more involvement for members of CCN like LeMond and Ashenden.
 
JimmyFingers said:
It has to be anything but McQuaid, there's need to be a change in governance. People may have reservations about the replacement, but healthier to give them time and see if we see a sea change and things like WADA taking over testing, more funding for testing, steeper sentences and more involvement for members of CCN like LeMond and Ashenden.

If McQaid doesn't get nominated, and Cookson is the only candidate, that would be more like changing of the guard IMHO, not an election.

As for your other points, the idea of WADA taking over testing is IMHO a bit naive(though you are not alone in this mind you;)). Wada was not set up for that, and I don't see how everything could turn hunky dory with that solution either.
Inner ring has and interesting article on this issue:
http://inrng.com/2013/04/uci-independent-anti-doping/

As for sentences, this is changing as we speak, since IIRC wada is working on this for the new code.

But I want it to be flexible. I don't want four years for taking the wrong cough syrup or like Bassons missing a test. Clear finding of EPO, like the two recent cases would however be ideal candidates for for 4 years for a first time offence. This would relate to Santa since di Luca has a bit of a record already, and IIRC he will be banned for longer due to that under the current code.

I want CAS to have the flexibility to assess mitigating factors as part of their judgement.(Being a big star is btw IMHO the opposite of a mitigating factor).
 
Jul 17, 2012
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Confirmed, quoted from the Telegraph:

Cookson said;

“I am today announcing that I am standing as a candidate for the Presidency of the UCI. I have the full support and nomination of my home federation, British Cycling, and I respectfully ask for the support of the national cycling federations of the world and the whole international cycling family.

I am not doing this lightly as I know how much needs to be done. When I became the President of British Cycling in 1996, the Federation was deeply troubled and close to bankruptcy. Since that time cycling in my country has been transformed beyond recognition. Many wonderful people have helped this process, motivated by a passion to do the best for cycling, and I have been proud to lead them.

This transformation has been achieved, above all, by creating a well run, stable federation governed on the principles of honesty, transparency and clear divisions of responsibility. These principles are even more important for an international federation.

Cycling has been at the heart of my life for as long as I can remember. It has shaped my personality as much as it has my professional career, and I will always be grateful for the sheer enjoyment, inspiration and opportunity that cycling has given me. I still ride my bike almost daily.

Many good things have happened in our sport around the world in recent years, and I am proud that British cyclists and British events such as London 2012 have played their part in showing what a superb sport we have in cycling, in all its diversity.

But the passion I and many others have for cycling cannot hide the fact that our international body, the UCI, remains hugely distracted, continuing to flounder in waves of damaging historical controversies. For far too many people our sport is associated with doping, with decisions that are made behind closed doors and with ceaseless conflicts with important members of the cycling family and other key stakeholders. This situation is deeply damaging for our sport, and it has severely compromised the UCI’s ability to develop and communicate some of the good work that is happening across the world.

The stakeholder consultation exercise held this year by the UCI has clearly demonstrated that there are many excellent aspects to the UCI, with much good work underway, but all of this has been severely compromised by the widespread absence of confidence in the integrity of the organisation.

Against this backdrop, and after careful consideration, I have decided to stand for the Presidency of the UCI. This is because I passionately believe that the UCI needs to embrace a new way of doing things, and address, head on, some of the critical challenges facing our sport.

We must restore cycling’s credibility. The first priority for the new UCI president must be to change the way that anti doping is managed so that people can have confidence in the sport. We must also urgently carry out a fully independent investigation into the allegations of corruption in this area which have so damaged the UCI’s reputation.

Cycling is not the only sport with problems but if we don’t have a sport that parents can send their children to with absolute confidence then we are failing. If elected I will devote myself to rebuilding relations with WADA and establishing with them a completely independent body to deal with anti-doping in cycling so that no-one can doubt that it is being tackled without fear or favour. I will also seek their full co-operation in the independent investigation into the UCI’s past.

In the next few weeks, I will publish my manifesto, which will outline clear recommendations to tackle the future challenges for our sport, as well as specific policies to address those problems from the past that still haunt us today.

More broadly, I want to see a UCI whose culture and way of doing things is defined by openness, transparency, and a commitment to more collegiate decision making. We need to work for the good of cycling globally, and not protect vested interests, wherever they may lie. The best way we can achieve this is to be much more open on how we operate and make decisions. In essence, my manifesto will outline how I would build trust in the UCI, and what our vision should be, for the future.

I believe that I have a strong and proven track record in delivering positive change in cycling, and in a way that is collegiate - not confrontational - as my time as President of British Cycling shows. It is this style of approach that I want to bring to the UCI.

I would be truly honoured to be elected UCI President, but I also understand the magnitude of the challenges we face. If successful in my campaign, I will do all in my powers to turn my vision of a more open and modern UCI into reality, in full partnership with all the other stakeholders in the sport we love”.

Fighting words from Cookson, good stuff to hear, hope he gets in.
 
ToreBear said:
If McQaid doesn't get nominated, and Cookson is the only candidate, that would be more like changing of the guard IMHO, not an election.

As for your other points, the idea of WADA taking over testing is IMHO a bit naive(though you are not alone in this mind you;)). Wada was not set up for that, and I don't see how everything could turn hunky dory with that solution either.
Inner ring has and interesting article on this issue:
http://inrng.com/2013/04/uci-independent-anti-doping/

As for sentences, this is changing as we speak, since IIRC wada is working on this for the new code.

But I want it to be flexible. I don't want four years for taking the wrong cough syrup or like Bassons missing a test. Clear finding of EPO, like the two recent cases would however be ideal candidates for for 4 years for a first time offence. This would relate to Santa since di Luca has a bit of a record already, and IIRC he will be banned for longer due to that under the current code.

I want CAS to have the flexibility to assess mitigating factors as part of their judgement.(Being a big star is btw IMHO the opposite of a mitigating factor).

Good article from Inner Ring, the crux of the fight against doping comes down to one thing and one thing alone, that is hard cash to spend on anti-doping programs, and someone has to pay for it.