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Singer01 said:
amazing performance from svendsen, hope that puts a spring in his step, at his best he is one of the few who can beat fourcade heads up on a regular basis. clearly he should always come from behind in relays rather than leading on the last leg.
Windisch disagrees.
 
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That was downright idi*tic from Hammerschmidt. That would deserve disqualification in another, more fair world. Similar thing did Martin Fourcade few races ago. Absolutely unnecessary, especialy from him. My sympaties for him are pretty much gone at this point.

Czech relays miss fourth link, the rest is pretty strong usually.
 
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a tad strange, but otherwise interesting sprints in toblah..the 2 biggest surprises came from the russ. 1st it was ustiougov who did not even qualify and then matveva beating falla fair and square for the gold.

looking at his time, ustiougov probably fell in the qualls or had a mechanical. too bad, b/c i expected him to wipe out the field. while originally not planned, he may now be entered for a team sprint tomorrow. i hope so. as to falla vs. matveva, it was interesting to see that they both ran in the same heats where falla took a commanding win except the final. looks like falla is either tired or the work the russ is doing with cramer is paying off.

...in men, the norwegians had the cream of their sprinting team. they must earn the spot on their world team. so they competed hard. indeed, 3 of the 6 in the final were norges. still, almost to the last 200 m it looked like they all may skip the podium with pelle and hamilton stretching the field. in the end, skar passed hamilton by millimiters and pelle got winded from leading too much and partaking in late QF heats...

brilliant race from hamilton who we all know can steal a sprint from anyone on his day.

lots of falls when the course was quite wide and not all that technical.
 

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That was just ridiculous by Kaisa. Destroyed the field, maybe the best individual performance of the season for me.
 
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Yeah really strong. But in all honesty she is always really quick but never hits all the targets, and once she did I think with how she has been going this season it wasn't unexpected that this would happen.

Weirer seems pretty slow on the skis which is a shame because she shot brilliantly, especially the standing shoot. She is normally excellent in pursuits so could podium tomorrow. Dorin Habert had the opposite issue, really quick but missing a target. Soukalova as expected really, quick and great shooting but she just isn't as fast as Kaisa (perhaps 5 or so seconds slower than expected). Dahlmeier was perhaps slightly slower than I thought she would be, she was 10 seconds off Soukalova which isn't where she'd want to be, and not a great sign for tomorrow.
 
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python said:
a tad strange, but otherwise interesting sprints in toblah..the 2 biggest surprises came from the russ. 1st it was ustiougov who did not even qualify and then matveva beating falla fair and square for the gold.

looking at his time, ustiougov probably fell in the qualls or had a mechanical. too bad, b/c i expected him to wipe out the field. while originally not planned, he may now be entered for a team sprint tomorrow. i hope so. as to falla vs. matveva, it was interesting to see that they both ran in the same heats where falla took a commanding win except the final. looks like falla is either tired or the work the russ is doing with cramer is paying off.

...in men, the norwegians had the cream of their sprinting team. they must earn the spot on their world team. so they competed hard. indeed, 3 of the 6 in the final were norges. still, almost to the last 200 m it looked like they all may skip the podium with pelle and hamilton stretching the field. in the end, skar passed hamilton by millimiters and pelle got winded from leading too much and partaking in late QF heats...

brilliant race from hamilton who we all know can steal a sprint from anyone on his day.

lots of falls when the course was quite wide and not all that technical.

Ustiugov fell. Pity for him. It's no guarantee he would have won, particularly after the exertions of the tour and having to go up against fresh sprinters. Was Harvey the only other tour finisher that raced today? Still, I suspect many had placed their bets on Ustiugov. I think testing to see how his fitness would hold after the tour and closing the gap the gap to Sundby in the overall WC was what he and the coaches were probably looking for. That was an opportunity lost. Sundby will in all likelihood race next weekend in Sweden and will be taking points, perhaps even winning, while Ustiugov will stay in Toblach and train, before heading to Norwegian nationals. That should be interesting, going up against the best of the best in Norway.

Who will the Norwegians take for the sprint in Lahti? My guess is that Northug, being the defending champ is in, then Krogh, Klaebo, Skar (a win today and a podium in Davos last month) aaaaand the last spot (Norway will have 5 spots as Northug is def. champ) will be an interesting fight. Golberg? Taugboel? Iversen? Hattestad? Brandsdal? Fossli?

This sort of course suits Simi Hamilton to a T. Not hard, lot's of gliding, V2 alternate/V2 skiing and drafting comes into play and he's very good at that. Two of his problems in the past were A.) Simply not being serious enough about training and staying fit all year, which also saw him getting sick and B.) Not being aggressive enough during the heats. Now that he's improved upon both of those aspects, he's showing his potential. I think he is a dark horse for Lahti for sure. The course is longer and more challenging, but I think he'll be top 10 there, at least.

The women's race was great. Matveeva is a bit like Hamilton in the way she skis. Very smooth and deceptive, particularly in the finish. Falla had the tempo but ran out of gas slightly in the closing meters and Matveeva simply skied through. The Russian women might not have many opportunities for medals in Lahti, but if there is one, Matveeva is definitely it. The other chances lie with Tchekaleva in the distance events, the relay and the team sprint. Will be interesting to see how their U23 women do over there. Belorukova made the heats again today, but didn't have good skis and on that type of course, you don't stand a chance with less than optimal glide.

Question? How many skiers will be in S. Korea in three weeks? Norwegian nationals will take place around this time, so too the world juniors and U23's in Park City, USA (site of the 2002 olympics) and only a week after that, there is the Otepaa WC and days later is Lahti. I can't see too many top skiers heading to Asia.
 
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I know he is a controversial figure, but Loginov is absolutely crushing the IBU Cup since the season started. Today he dominated the 20km individual in Arber. Looking at ski times only, the closest competitor was two minutes behind. The guy is super talented. The problem is that Ricco Gross isn't comfortable putting him on the world cup just yet, for obvious reasons, but he has to join the world cup sooner rather than later, particularly if the Russian A team members drop in form or one of them gets sick. He's served the normal two year suspension and should be back on the circuit. I think everyone deserves a second chance. If he shoots well, he can challenge for WC podiums on a regular basis, in my opinion.
 
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Yeah, I was drooling all over the Analysis sheet today, hope he gets a shot at the WC soon, would be a shame to see such talent go to waste.

Kletcherov had 6th best time though, on WC lvl you can add a 0 to that, and that's on a good day, so that puts things into perspective a bit.
 
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BullsFan22 said:
The guy is super talented. The problem is that Ricco Gross isn't comfortable putting him on the world cup just yet, for obvious reasons, but he has to join the world cup sooner rather than later, particularly if the Russian A team members drop in form or one of them gets sick. He's served the normal two year suspension and should be back on the circuit. I think everyone deserves a second chance. If he shoots well, he can challenge for WC podiums on a regular basis, in my opinion.
Loginov was doping, maybe for years. Well, Gross had just one chance to put him to World cup, give him some time, probably till next World cup ;)
 
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This is getting too boring. Fourcade missed 3 shots amd he still was able to win against a EHS that missed... ZERO SHOTS!!
 
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agree, it is getting boring to watch fourcade...shipulin probably spent too much energy closing the gap.
 
Apr 22, 2012
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Wow, Krcmar - unbelievable performance today, huge improvement and the finish was very exciting, from 5th to 3rd, passed Peiffer and Shipulin despite that on the last intermediate it looked that he overcooked it and Shipulin is escaping...what a surprise at the finish to see Krcmar going past him and almost catching Svendsen! Few metres more and Krcmar would maybe pass even him. Great skiing today, I think 3rd time.
 
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portugal11 said:
This is getting too boring. Fourcade missed 3 shots amd he still was able to win against a EHS that missed... ZERO SHOTS!!
Svendsen just skied pretty slow today IMHO. I don't even think Fourcade was very fast on ski today. He just shoot zero when he needed. The guy in unbelievable.
 
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Fourcade 17th ski time today, probably beatable, Svendsen 33rd time - probably only because clear shooting retained 2nd place, Krcmar had 19 th time, there I was wrong, but 2nd on last lap combined with improvement from 29th place makes it really good anyway. He's one of the greatest sprinters out there.
 
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Kokoso said:
Wow, Krcmar - unbelievable performance today, huge improvement and the finish was very exciting, from 5th to 3rd, passed Peiffer and Shipulin despite that on the last intermediate it looked that he overcooked it and Shipulin is escaping...what a surprise at the finish to see Krcmar going past him and almost catching Svendsen! Few metres more and Krcmar would maybe pass even him. Great skiing today, I think 3rd time.


Yes. Unbelievable.
 
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Kokoso said:
Wow, Krcmar - unbelievable performance today, huge improvement and the finish was very exciting, from 5th to 3rd, passed Peiffer and Shipulin despite that on the last intermediate it looked that he overcooked it and Shipulin is escaping...what a surprise at the finish to see Krcmar going past him and almost catching Svendsen! Few metres more and Krcmar would maybe pass even him. Great skiing today, I think 3rd time.


Yes. Unbelievable.
How and why
 
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Kokoso said:
Wow, Krcmar - unbelievable performance today, huge improvement and the finish was very exciting, from 5th to 3rd, passed Peiffer and Shipulin despite that on the last intermediate it looked that he overcooked it and Shipulin is escaping...what a surprise at the finish to see Krcmar going past him and almost catching Svendsen! Few metres more and Krcmar would maybe pass even him. Great skiing today, I think 3rd time.


Yes. Unbelievable.
You are hinting doping, aren't you? Well, that's silly. He had 19th time today, + 37 seconds. You are taking it too far :rolleyes:
 
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BullsFan22 said:
Kokoso said:
Wow, Krcmar - unbelievable performance today, huge improvement and the finish was very exciting, from 5th to 3rd, passed Peiffer and Shipulin despite that on the last intermediate it looked that he overcooked it and Shipulin is escaping...what a surprise at the finish to see Krcmar going past him and almost catching Svendsen! Few metres more and Krcmar would maybe pass even him. Great skiing today, I think 3rd time.


Yes. Unbelievable.
Hardly unbelievable if you know the guy's relay record in recent years. I was expecting him to beat Peiffer, and with the lack of form Shipulin has displayed, I was also not that surprised he passed him too.
Awesome result for Krcmar. For me his 3rd place was the best element of today's competition.
 
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another huge surprise from the russ ladies - they beat everyone in the team sprint. i dont quite like the new format - too crowded for the 15 teams at the exchange area. looking at belorukova yesterday, one would hardly expect her to stick with the leaders, but she did somehow. the rest was accomplished by the obviously in fantastic form matveva...belorukova has a bright future being only 23. and i think she should delve into the distance more given her good speed-endurance today...
 
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Kaisa destroys everyone in the pursuit.

I have to say that Wierer's ski speed is seriously disappointing.
 

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Another dominant display, when she puts it together she is amazing. pleased she isn't as consistent as Fourcade, much more interesting for the women this year.
 
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Kokoso said:
Fourcade 17th ski time today, probably beatable, Svendsen 33rd time - probably only because clear shooting retained 2nd place, Krcmar had 19 th time, there I was wrong, but 2nd on last lap combined with improvement from 29th place makes it really good anyway. He's one of the greatest sprinters out there.
Fourcade was very fast, how is that possible? He was gaining time to everyone in all laps.
 

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