Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

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del1962 said:
Just listened to a bit of Lance's interview with the BBC, he really does not sound in the least bit contrite, coming out with the level playing field rubbish, how he is upset that only he got the death penalty etc

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24893598

"I have experienced massive personal loss, massive loss of wealth, while others have truly capitalised on this story."

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Funny, he almost wants you to believe he didn't profit handsomely from the scheme. Losing 20 million doesn't mean much when you have made 100+ million fraudulently.
 
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Like I said after the DB interview, he's trying to pull a fast one to get back to competitive sport.

He wants to rewrite history and pretend he didn't get the opportunity to come forward by USADA.

You know something, he can keep his testimony for all I care. So what if he has **** on Hein and McQuaid, they're history now. As Tygart said today, his testimony today isn't worth anything now like it would have been back in June 2012.
 
MonkeyFace said:
"I have experienced massive personal loss, massive loss of wealth, while others have truly capitalised on this story."

The status as a legend in his own mind was threated! Terrible loss!

Armstrong outed the depth and relatively realtime knowledge of the UCI's doping knowledge yet somehow that has been skipped over like the UCI hiding Contador's positive.
 
gooner said:
Like I said after the DB interview, he's trying to pull a fast one to get back to competitive sport.

He wants to rewrite history and pretend he didn't get the opportunity to come forward by USADA.
You know something, he can keep his testimony for all I care. So what if he has **** on and McQuaid, they're history now. As Tygart said today, his testimony today isn't worth anything now like it would have been back in June 2012.

While he is being honest, why doesn't he explain just how he was doing everything in his power to destroy USADA and Travis Tygart, and refused to participate in any kind of confession or discussions with them.

From what little I know about the US justice system, plea bargaining is one of its fundamental pillars. If you don't bargain, you risk the "death sentence". Lancey-poo you took the gamble, now don't complain about the conséquences.
 
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jeezus ferking cris,

i stopped caring about anything armstrong long ago, coz he had reached the absolutely lowest point on my scale...but the king fraud from texas keeps outdoing himself - now, reading another of his whines, i've come to a conclusion - frankly, i did not hold this opinion before - that he is an outstanding woosy, or plainly speaking, despikable coward...there i said it :mad:
 
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python said:
jeezus ferking cris,

i stopped caring about anything armstrong long ago, coz he had reached the absolutely lowest point on my scale...but the king fraud from texas keeps outdoing himself - now, reading another of his whines, i've come to a conclusion - frankly, i did not hold this opinion before - that he is an outstanding woosy, or plainly speaking, despikable coward...there i said it :mad:

Yep.

He will whine the rest of his life.
 
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pastronef said:
it reinforces how he's got old. wow, he looks aged

The stress of losing every penny he cheated for and no future earnings plus possible time in jail might have that effect on a guy.:D
 
Benotti69 said:
The stress of losing every penny he cheated for and no future earnings plus possible time in jail might have that effect on a guy.:D

I think he has some money hidden somewhere in case of hard times to come.
and I am still convinced Trek left him just for the image. but he owns a % of the factory
 
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pastronef said:
I think he has some money hidden somewhere in case of hard times to come.
and I am still convinced Trek left him just for the image. but he owns a % of the factory

Yeah but whatever he has stashed is not enough for a guy like Armstrong. Heck he had a water bill for $300K for his garden on his house in Texas!!!
 
pastronef said:
it reinforces how he's got old. wow, he looks aged

Well.. Lance is starting to look like a little old man, at least in the pic. His concern now is to make that lifetime ban ("It's so unfair!") go away so he can continue to compete in sanctioned triathlons, namely the Ironman. But dang, Lance is already 42 years-old and definitely not getting any younger. What is he thinking?
 
Bosco10 said:
Well.. Lance is starting to look like a little old man, at least in the pic. His concern now is to make that lifetime ban ("It's so unfair!") go away so he can continue to compete in sanctioned triathlons, namely the Ironman. But dang, Lance is already 42 years-old and definitely not getting any younger. What is he thinking?

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MonkeyFace said:
"I have experienced massive personal loss, massive loss of wealth, while others have truly capitalised on this story."

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Funny, he almost wants you to believe he didn't profit handsomely from the scheme. Losing 20 million doesn't mean much when you have made 100+ million fraudulently.

that's how I read it - that he's upset at not getting a slice of the pie. Funny how he forgets the massive gain of wealth he made out of it all in the first place.
Probably burns him like mad that Walsh is making dosh from his book...

pastronef said:
I think he has some money hidden somewhere in case of hard times to come.
and I am still convinced Trek left him just for the image. but he owns a % of the factory

that.
he'll still have his stake in companies regardless of whether they're publicly supporting him or not
 
frenchfry said:
While he is being honest, why doesn't he explain just how he was doing everything in his power to destroy USADA and Travis Tygart, and refused to participate in any kind of confession or discussions with them.

From what little I know about the US justice system, plea bargaining is one of its fundamental pillars. If you don't bargain, you risk the "death sentence". Lancey-poo you took the gamble, now don't complain about the conséquences.
Some of those with 'light sentences' retired. Ergo, the light sentence was a 'death sentence'.

If we are going to use capital crime as analogy, then the 'level playing field' remains strongly tilted in his direction.

Some of the others were accomplices. Lance was the mastermind of a serial killing campaign on cycling.

He should have received successive life terms with no chance, ever, for parole, plus a whole bunch of Civil Suits for 'wrongful death'.

Dave.
 
Cav on Lance:
Lance and I had met at the Interbike trade show in Las Vegas in September 2008. Introduced by George Hincapie, once Lance’s domestique de luxe and then mine, we had instantly struck up a rapport. There was something mesmeric about Lance.
That’s something that people often say about so-called ‘celebrities’, but not until I spent an hour or two with Lance did I fully appreciate what it meant.
There was a buzz, an electricity that seemed to take hold of the room. The energy that he radiated seemed to hang everywhere, yet when Lance spoke the space suddenly emptied to leave just you and him.
His eyes were like strobe lights, burning through you. He inserted your name into every sentence, paid attention to everything you did, remembered everything that you said.
It was hard, as a 23-year-old who had watched him win seven Tour de France, goggle-eyed, not to be impressed or at least intrigued. A couple of nights out in Las Vegas hadn’t suddenly made us close friends and we had no contact until a congratulatory text message after my victory in Milan – San Remo in March 2009.
For the next couple of months after this George would tell Lance that I’d bought an expensive watch, or a sports car, and I’d get a text from Lance: ‘Cav! Don’t waste your money on watches! What did I tell you? Save it. Be smart with it.’ In Vegas he never tired of repeating it. Perhaps I was under his spell, but when it came to giving me advice he appeared both genuine and generous.
Like everyone else, I was well aware of the doping rumours that had swirled around Lance, but never dwelled on them: firstly because I hadn’t been competing against him between 1999 and 2005; and, secondly, I had gathered from riders who had competed in that era that doping had been widespread if not endemic.
In 2009 and even on the eve of the 2010 Tour, when the Wall Street Journal published allegations aimed at Lance by his old team-mate Floyd Landis, I’d paid very little attention to the low, slow drumroll of controversy.
Now, though, the idea that Lance had doped to ride that 2009 Tour in which I’d won six stages switched something in me. If the suffering that we sometimes endure in races is hard to convey to the ordinary punter, it’s even more difficult to describe the bitterness of knowing the pain was made even worse by other riders cheating.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...g-was-mesmeric-he-had-me-under-his-spell.html
 
Bosco10 said:
Well.. Lance is starting to look like a little old man, at least in the pic. His concern now is to make that lifetime ban ("It's so unfair!") go away so he can continue to compete in sanctioned triathlons, namely the Ironman. But dang, Lance is already 42 years-old and definitely not getting any younger. What is he thinking?
He wants to challenge Crowie, Lieto and Macca for the title of "World's fittest 45 year old?"

LA and Macca never did get their showdown...
 
Lance wasn't the mastermind of a "serial killing campaign on cycling."

I agree with you about what Lance did, but I don't think Lance "killed" cycling. The sport was already zombified by the time Lance came on the scene.

Lance wasn't the first organized doper--Festina was the first exposed organized doping team. Lance wasn't even the biggest doper--I think we can credit 'Mr. 60 percent' with that. And anybody who thinks that Lance was the only person who had a "special relationship" with McBruggen would also have to believe that McBruggen would only take money from Lance and nobody else . . .. Maybe Lance was meaner to his cycle-servants than every other cyclist, but I doubt it.

But Lance, Johan and the Coconspirators brought all the elements of cheating together in a really effective way. They truly learned from cycling's history. They didn't "kill" cycling--they embodied it.

I'd agree that Lance butchered the ideal of professional cycling. He dragged the ideal through the metaphorical mud. But Lance embodied the reality of professional cycling, filthy circus that it is.




The sport was already seriously zombified by the time Lance