Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[Tyre Byter]

How's Floyd doing on the $480K restitution to FFF donors to avoid fine + jail time?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

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How's Floyd doing on the $480K restitution to FFF donors to avoid fine + jail time?

No idea, guess it is hard when your living behind a car wash. Maybe if he can get some money from the whistle blower case he can get that done.

 

[Tyre Byter]

Last I read Floyd was given 3yrs to accomplish the mission which would put the deadline later this year.
Any coincidence to the amount he was offered?

 

[MarkvW]

Apparently the Feds want more from Knaggs and Stapleton (more money? testimony? both?). I expect Knaggs and Stapleton's attorneys are dickering with the US attorneys to determine just what it will take for the US to settle with them.

This isn't necessarily bad for Floyd in the long term, because hard bargaining like this may help maximize the amount of the eventual judgment.

Does appear to send a message to Lance from the US, et al.: "We're not playing around."

 

[DirtyWorks]

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He's being punished way more than jail time would have done...being persona non gratis.

Yes, somewhat.

There is no doubt that personally Wonderboy is in an uncomfortable place. But, the sycophants are still there, he's still a ridiculous liar, he's got a life partner that's lying for him in a tough situation, he's still the guy that got himself into the situation in the first place.

At the first whiff of some kind of relief, USA Cycling will have him back. If he's scraping the bottom of the barrel, he'll show up at a Junior training camp to discuss "what it takes" and "the lifestyle needed to do well" as long as the cameras are nearby and it leads to good PR.

Busting the guy down to a double-wide in Austin where he has to get a real job would be sufficient for me and complete h-e-l-l for him.

I'll save prison for Wiesel, Och, Knaggs and a few others. Which, would only mean USA Cycling would be run by Wiesel from prison, not any kind of real change in competitive cycling.

 

[Saint Unix]

Just finished watching The Armstrong Lie. What the hell happened to David Walsh?

"He was sensational, and everybody who was at that race in terms of the journalists, when Lance Armstrong made that big attack in the mountains to Sestriére, I was in the press room that day, I saw the reaction; people were laughing. Incredulous. They didn't believe this. Because here we had a guy (...) supposedly riding the race clean, riding more effortlessly, with greater power, at a greater speed than all the Tours that had gone before, so it just didn't make sense."

Quite an accomplishment for Walsh to spew out the biggest pile of hypocritical bullsh*t in a documentary about a huge - but completely different - pile of hypocritical bullsh*t.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

Excerpted from the article titled "Making Sense of CIRC," published in the June 2015 issue of Cycling Sport:

..."UCI staff reported that trying to catch the cheaters amounted to a witch hunt in Lon Schattenberg’s opinion,” reads the report. Thus, excuses for positive tests were readily accepted — and so when Armstrong tested positive for cortisone on day one of the 1999 Tour, a backdated prescription was suffcient to clear him of a doping charge....

As I have mentioned often on this forum, there was never any TUE. It was a script that was back-dated, not a TUE. Even that early on, UCI were so corrupt, and so eager to wring Pharmstrong for every centime he could bring to the sport, they accepted a forged prescription without concern for whether there ever was a TUE.

 

[Benotti69]

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Just finished watching The Armstrong Lie. What the hell happened to David Walsh?

"He was sensational, and everybody who was at that race in terms of the journalists, when Lance Armstrong made that big attack in the mountains to Sestriére, I was in the press room that day, I saw the reaction; people were laughing. Incredulous. They didn't believe this. Because here we had a guy (...) supposedly riding the race clean, riding more effortlessly, with greater power, at a greater speed than all the Tours that had gone before, so it just didn't make sense."

Quite an accomplishment for Walsh to spew out the biggest pile of hypocritical bullsh*t in a documentary about a huge - but completely different - pile of hypocritical bullsh*t.

Walsh works for Sunday Times, owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns Sky, who sponsor TeamSky. Paul Kimmage lost his job at Sunday Times because he refused to comply with being a puppet for Murdoch and not criticise Sky.

Walsh obviously decided to stay and get his pension.

 

[Amsterhammer]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

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Really good observations Dave. I hear what you say when I see Axel Merckx running a Grand Fondo in Kelowna, when no one wants to discuss doping at our local crit series, when Hincapie runs a development team, when Wiesel runs US Cycling and so on and so on and so on. What your observations tell us is that cycling is still not prepared to confront the doping. If a person cannot have a comfortable anti-doping conversation at a cycling event the sport is rotten from the core out.

IMO the attitude at cycling events ought to be - "I hope we caught or will catch all the cheating ba$1ards at this race!" When the conversation gets to that level maybe we have turned the corner.

I hear you, and keep trying.

Wouldn't it be great to have a Betsy appreciation night! Can you imagine?

Dave.

You may not be aware of my own humble contribution to the adoration of the Betsy?

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=18976

 

[IndianCyclist]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

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Really good observations Dave. I hear what you say when I see Axel Merckx running a Grand Fondo in Kelowna, when no one wants to discuss doping at our local crit series, when Hincapie runs a development team, when Wiesel runs US Cycling and so on and so on and so on. What your observations tell us is that cycling is still not prepared to confront the doping. If a person cannot have a comfortable anti-doping conversation at a cycling event the sport is rotten from the core out.

IMO the attitude at cycling events ought to be - "I hope we caught or will catch all the cheating ba$1ards at this race!" When the conversation gets to that level maybe we have turned the corner.

Imagine a race where its not about who came first across the finish but who gets caught first for dope with the maximum dopage as the winner

 

[Benotti69]

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How's Floyd doing on the $480K restitution to FFF donors to avoid fine + jail time?

Since lots of the FFF donors are now part of the Qui Tam case, I wouldn't get to upset about it.

 

[gooner]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Tyler met Lance last week at the deposition.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11432090

 

[sniper]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Tyler met Lance last week at the deposition.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11432090

good link.
nice little interview with Tyler in that video clip.
big respect.

 

[Kennf1]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Tyler met Lance last week at the deposition.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11432090

I guess Lance is still going to every deposition. Still trying to intimidate.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Tyler met Lance last week at the deposition.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11432090

I guess Lance is still going to every deposition. Still trying to intimidate.

Not so sure that will work any more....I would think he's trying to show them how beaten down and deserving of sympathy he is...

 

[MagnificentMerckx]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Tyler met Lance last week at the deposition.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11432090

There is a rumor going that the under card fight to the Pacquiao/Mayweather clash will be the long anticipated and controversial grudge match clash between Floyd Landis and Lance Armstrong.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Tyler met Lance last week at the deposition.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11432090

Thanks for the link.

Anyone else notice at the end of the video the duche who had the football helmet on complete with eaglet wings and head glued on? Damm President Obama will never be able to bring back a
America's image after *** like that.

 

[D-Queued]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Tyler met Lance last week at the deposition.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11432090

I guess Lance is still going to every deposition. Still trying to intimidate.

Not so sure that will work any more....I would think he's trying to show them how beaten down and deserving of sympathy he is...

If so, it must be very hard to keep a straight face even while testifying under oath.

Lance doesn't have the acting chops to pull off a sympathetic demeanor.

Dave.

 

[Bosco10]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Tyler met Lance last week at the deposition.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11432090

Thanks for the link.

Anyone else notice at the end of the video the duche who had the football helmet on complete with eaglet wings and head glued on? Damm President Obama will never be able to bring back a
America's image after **** like that.

lol.. Crazed American fan geez. And damn, why doesn't Tyler wash that hair, and maybe shave a little bit. Maybe he's going for the John Travolta Pulp Fiction look.

 

[frenchfry]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Tyler met Lance last week at the deposition.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11432090

Thanks for the link.

Anyone else notice at the end of the video the duche who had the football helmet on complete with eaglet wings and head glued on? Damm President Obama will never be able to bring back a
America's image after **** like that.

lol.. Crazed American fan geez. And damn, why doesn't Tyler wash that hair, and maybe shave a little bit. Maybe he's going for the John Travolta Pulp Fiction look.

And we know how that ended - in the movie at least.

 

[Microchip]

Is there a separate thread for the whistle blower suit (recent happenings)? I see Tyler and Armstrong testified.

 

[DirtyWorks]

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Is there a separate thread for the whistle blower suit (recent happenings)? I see Tyler and Armstrong testified.

If there was, it's probably long dormant. Not too much news anyway.

Tyler's story is history now. It's not like it's going to change.

Wonderboy hasn't changed. If he told half the truth that would be a win for the Feds. So, more blocking on his part.

 

[Microchip]

Okay.

 

[Berzin]

Hamilton looks terrible. Not just the hair, but his face. He looks like he's having a seriously difficult time adjusting to his life.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

He actually looks relaxed. When you think about how he's abused his body for over a decade or two then yeah..it shows.