Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[Maxiton]

I wonder how many of these 24k new followers are real cycling fans.

I wonder how many of them are real people. You can buy Twitter followers for pennies on the head.

 

[Benotti69]

Here's one more analysis of the interview, this time a legal take on it.

http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/story/_/id/8859684/lance-armstrong-chose-words-carefully-oprah-interview-avoid-legal-pitfalls

Everything Armstrong said was carefully worded with key words that could be used in future lawsuits. He is setting up the defense.

I believe this was the real motivation behind the interview.

Oprah was used. I hoped she realises that and goes on a personal campaign to uncover what LieStrong is really about.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

I believe this was the real motivation behind the interview.

Oprah was used. I hoped she realises that and goes on a personal campaign to uncover what LieStrong is really about.

In her cbs morning promo interview before the airing, Oprah said that everyone in the room was "mezmerised" by Armstrongs confession.
Yeah, mezmerised by how little he actually said and how insincere he was, mezmerised by what a lightweight journo Oprah actually is.
A great match for each other. Legends with no substance and no character.
Spellbindingly shallow and dissapointing stuff.

I think it depends how familiar you are with Armstrong, if you are not all that familiar with him it could be pretty mesmerising to see the way he performed an about turn after vehemently lying and then went on to list all his other crimes.

It was like watching a stone cold assassin or something.

 

[Benotti69]

I think it depends how familiar you are with Armstrong, if you are not all that familiar with him it could be pretty mesmerising to see the way he performed an about turn after vehemently lying and then went on to list all his other crimes.

It was like watching a stone cold assassin or something.

He could hardly keep up the lies about his doping when the dogs in the street knew he doped.

No wasn't like watching an assasin. It was like watching a f**king troll still being a f**king troll.

 

[cineteq]

I believe this was the real motivation behind the interview.

Oprah was used. I hoped she realises that and goes on a personal campaign to uncover what LieStrong is really about.

Lance had his agenda, Oprah had his agenda. So what? In the end, Lance admitted to full-blown doping in all his TdF wins, and being a bully. More downfall to follow.

 

[Benotti69]

Lance had his agenda, Oprah had his agenda. So what? In the end, Lance admitted to full-blown doping in all his TdF wins, and being a bully. More downfall to follow.

What you say is true.

As to the so what? I posted what i thought Armstrong's agenda was in going on Oprah. It was part of his game plan.

I hope the downfall leads to the exposure of Liestrong as the bigger fraud than Armstrong was. I think part of Armstrong's agenda was to try to 'save' that.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Apologies if this has been asked and answered

I'd love to hear Tygarts answer to this question about ciritcal juncture -- i.e. to know exactly why he didn't drop the ball like Birotte et al.

For me the 2005 Lequipe article about the 1999 samples is where the Armstrong allegations gained critical mass.

This raises an interesting point which I am not sure if it has been addressed elsewhere - does Armstrong's confession potentially enable the case against him to be re-opened by the feds? Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere.

 

[thirteen]

Sunday Times Sport ‏@ST_Sport
FREE until 5pm today: @DavidWalshST offers his take on Lance/Oprah http://thetim.es/UbyrBZ #Armstrong

link here: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/article1197546.ece

 

[Fatclimber]

I wonder how many of them are real people. You can buy Twitter followers for pennies on the head.

Yeah, I'm aware twitter follower numbers don't hold much meaning. He picked up another 21k yesterday.

What does have meaning to me is what the Livestrong Foundation receives in donations. Although he's resigned from any association to it, I think it's intake from individual donations is a good indicator of how the general public views him. I have been searching, but cannot find the source that someone had posted a looooong time ago that showed a graph of donations.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

SNL: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/19/snl-lance-armstrong-manti-teo-jodie-foster_n_2513617.html

 

[thirteen]

SNL: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/19/snl-lance-armstrong-manti-teo-jodie-foster_n_2513617.html

cheers, but i still can't see it over here

here's an alternate version of Oprah, btw: http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2013/01/20/lance-armstrong-lies-to-oprah-winfrey/

 

[Race Radio]

The UCI called and asked for a donation after I retired

 

[Microchip]

Travis Tygart was lying about his representatives offering a donation to the USADA.

 

[Joachim]

Kristin made me promise I wouldn't dope anymore

 

[Microchip]

Kristen didn't know about the team's practices.

 

[Race Radio]

Never had a meeting with the lab, Both Saugy and the UCI confirm it happened

 

[shades1]

please dont attack me for the question as i am as disgusted as everybody else with LA now he has finally owned up .

but he was clearly hugely talented on a bike , would it have been absolutely impossible for him to have won without doping ?

 

[Briant_Gumble]

This is the most scathing article I've seen on Armstrong's performance on Oprah:

http://m.scmp.com/sport/other-sport/article/1132487/lance-armstrongs-oprah-show-disaster

Fits very much in line with how I thougt he was coming across.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

please dont attack me for the question as i am as disgusted as everybody else with LA now he has finally owned up .

but he was clearly hugely talented on a bike , would it have been absolutely impossible for him to have won without doping ?

In all honesty, I think the answer to that question at this point is: Who cares?

This is much less about the doping. It is more about the manner by which he conducted the cover-up of his doping.

 

[DominicDecoco]

please dont attack me for the question as i am as disgusted as everybody else with LA now he has finally owned up .

but he was clearly hugely talented on a bike , would it have been absolutely impossible for him to have won without doping ?

Was he talented, though? I'm not convinced he wasn't doping when won his WC and prior to that. Wasn't on the same schemes as in 99-2010 but really?.. Clean?..

And he wasn't particularly talented in either TT and climbing before the cancer period. Phil Anderson quotes this as well.

He'd won f'ck all in my view.

 

[Smera1]

please dont attack me for the question as i am as disgusted as everybody else with LA now he has finally owned up .

but he was clearly hugely talented on a bike , would it have been absolutely impossible for him to have won without doping ?

Maybe you can find your answer in this article.
Cheers.

http://joepapp.blogspot.com.br/2010/04/lemond-was-clean-maybe-ullrich-could.html

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Oprah: "You sued Emma O'Riley"

Lance: "I have to be honest with you Oprah, when we ran over her, I didn't even feel it. But if you say we sued her, I'll take your word for it."

 

[Benotti69]

please dont attack me for the question as i am as disgusted as everybody else with LA now he has finally owned up .

but he was clearly hugely talented on a bike , would it have been absolutely impossible for him to have won without doping ?

No one can say how talented he was, he was doping since he was a teenage triathlete!

He started his cyling career doping with Carmichael.

He may have won some small semi classics and got lucky and won a classic.

We will never know. He was never interested in proving just how naturally talented he was and I think that says a lot about him and his natural talent.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Maybe you can find your answer in this article.
Cheers.

http://joepapp.blogspot.com.br/2010/04/lemond-was-clean-maybe-ullrich-could.html

Please don't link to articles by that smarmy little scumbag. Katie Couric interviewed him this week about doping in cycling. He had the nerve to give her a Bike Pure wristband. He then went on to say something to the effect of "EPO didn't pedal the bike for Lance."

The only time you should ever consult Joe Papp on is if you have a question about what it's like to me an ethically devoid bag of monkey dung.

 

[Smera1]

Please don't link to articles by that smarmy little scumbag. Katie Couric interviewed him this week about doping in cycling. He had the nerve to give her a Bike Pure wristband. He then went on to say something to the effect of "EPO didn't pedal the bike for Lance."

The only time you should ever consult Joe Papp on is if you have a question about what it's like to me an ethically devoid bag of monkey dung.

Ok, I'm sorry.
I only linked it cause I thought it could have some value.
Best Regards.