Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[DirtyWorks]

We can write the epitaph for this place.

Because some don't agree with your telenovela? Because your explanation wasn't immediately adopted? It must be nice being King of Whateverstan where people are hanging on your every utterance. That's not happening here and it's not personal.

Otherwise, according to you, there's nothing left to talk about, so come back some other time when maybe there is something. Really, life is way too short to be wasting energy on The End of The Clinic. That's not personal either. I want you to go and find something more meaningful, enjoyable, than this forum. Change happens.

 

[Bosco10]

I want you to go and find something more meaningful, enjoyable, than this forum. Change happens.

Golf.....?

 

[aphronesis]

Because some don't agree with your telenovela? Because your explanation wasn't immediately adopted? It must be nice being King of Whateverstan where people are hanging on your every utterance. That's not happening here and it's not personal.

Otherwise, according to you, there's nothing left to talk about, so come back some other time when maybe there is something. Really, life is way too short to be wasting energy on The End of The Clinic. That's not personal either. I want you to go and find something more meaningful, enjoyable, than this forum. Change happens.

Really? Which of your posts since the reasoned decision has in any way dealt with or contemplated change?

 

[frenchfry]

Which means that BroDeal's ploy worked!

I am leaning towards the idea that Bro is pulling our collective legs for the entertainment value.

If nothing else, the discussion has reminded us that some cancer doctors can be money grubbing liars just like the common man.

 

[aphronesis]

I chimed in here merely to have a bit of fun. note I haven't posted here in a couple years or more.
I'll tell those involved in lawsuits that I choose not to be involved when I'm summoned unless it can be proved for posterity, ethics, and as a historical actor.

That's fine as far as it goes, but there's a mediated aspect to all of this. Why engage/participate in that? Fun?

 

[The Hitch]

As for Bro - I am still confident it is merely boredom. There was some classic stuff earlier and one should always remember he posted
this gem;

I've seen it before but it's still brilliant the accuracy with which so many of the cycling characters fit into the Simpson's characters he gave them.

 

[Alpe73]

and one should always remember he posted this gem ...

Absolutely brilliant and spot on.

 

[Race Radio]

He would have been better to keep it low profile as possible, co-operate with USADA, take the hit, get it over with done and dusted. After all, the vast duped majority can no doubt no longer remember the names of any other players

Lance has said this on Oprah. He should have taken USADA up on their offer. Turning them down was his biggest mistake.......now he is trying to paint himself as a victim.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Is it Friday yet?


just checking in this morning to see if the thread is still here..

 

[sniper]

Lance has said this on Oprah. He should have taken USADA up on their offer. Turning them down was his biggest mistake.......now he is trying to paint himself as a victim.

how much of that decision was actually his, and how much of that decision was his lawyers'?

 

[spalco]

What "facts" are you referring to? BroDeal's post is filled with the same nonsense that has been refuted over and over when it was posted by various Wonderboy trolls over the years.

I'm not even sure how any of that matters. Yes, the Andreus, as well as O'Reilly and Landis and a thousand other people could have spoken out years earlier, and sometimes their motivation to finally do so was partially self-serving, but so what?

 

[frenchfry]

how much of that decision was actually his, and how much of that decision was his lawyers'?

According to the Bro narrative, he was just one of the guys and followed orders - so we can assume the lawyers made the decision in this case.

According to the haters, Armstrong was the domineering head honcho, so he would have made the decision without listening to anyone.

The truth may, or may not, lie in between the two scenarios.

 

[DirtyWorks]

According to the Bro narrative, he was just one of the guys and followed orders - so we can assume the lawyers made the decision in this case.

According to the haters, Armstrong was the domineering head honcho, so he would have made the decision without listening to anyone.

The truth may, or may not, lie in between the two scenarios.

While it is important to acknowledge possible, the public evidence makes a strong case for the latter. The 7-person cabal lead by the Lemonds, just isn't very plausible.

Oh, and I heard Tygart was gluing tubulars in Lemond's garage back in the day. Lemond was planning ahead. It's true. A story will be published verifying everything real soon now.

 

[Scott SoCal]

how much of that decision was actually his, and how much of that decision was his lawyers'?

Doesn't matter and... who cares?

I think I know what RR was alluding to but the biggest mistake LA made was coming out of retirement. Then not hiring Floyd, then....

Actually there are a bunch of big mistakes.

 

[Race Radio]

I'm not even sure how any of that matters. Yes, the Andreus, as well as O'Reilly and Landis and a thousand other people could have spoken out years earlier, and sometimes their motivation to finally do so was partially self-serving, but so what?

According to BroDeal's secret source Betsy spoke out years earlier in an attempt to ruin everyone's career because she was bitter, jealous, and doing the bidding of her alien overlords, The LeMond's

 

[Race Radio]

how much of that decision was actually his, and how much of that decision was his lawyers'?

Given that within weeks of the RD he chose to talk with Oprah the majority of the decision was his

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Brodeal played this good.

 

[Jack Ruby]

The form of the argument might have changed/evolved over the years, but the theme "Lance the victim" has not.

From the French and their anti-American ways, to the USADA Witch Hunt/budget justifier, the world is clearly out to get Lance.

Does anyone have a comprehensive list of those with an axe to grind?

1. Swart
2. Andreus
3. The French
4. USADA in general
5. Novitzky
6. Tygart
7. Mike Anderson
8. Emma O'Reilly
9. David Walsh

It's sort of like the infinite number # of monkeys in front of keyboards eventually writing "To be, or not to be. That is the question?".

Given enough time maybe there will be defense that is plausible.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Given enough time maybe there will be defense that is plausible.

And IMHO, that is the point of so much of the recent Wonderboy content generated. I read recent stuff as lots of different excuses and bad ideas to see if one gains traction.

Oh, and according to Betsy, she admitted the cabal is 7 people orchestrated by the Lemonds when she was slumming here a few pages ago. Just like BroDeal said.

Is it Friday yet?

 

[86TDFWinner]

Do you really think that the USPS team (as tightly budgeted as it was) flew Frankie to France and paid his expenses, if Frankie was NOT going to support Lance and his doped team in 2001 and 2002? Do you really think Frankie and his family could afford to pay for a multi-week European trip on the measly salary that USPS paid him?

No, and no.

Whatever Frankie was doing at the 2001 and 2002 Tours, it was most likely that he was knowingly working in support of a doped team.

We've been over this, why did he do this? Because he needed the bills paid.

Why don't you apply the same critical eye to Frankie as you do the other USPS conspirators? He's no more and no less responsible than the other dirty domestiques.

Went over this too, Frankie WAS NOT the drug lord Georgie Porgie said he was......he had to go along w/Wonderboy(as did Floyd and several others at the time), in order to get paid and pay their bills. ALL of Wonderboys domestiques were dirty at the time, Tyler, George, Floyd, etc, etc.

 

[mewmewmew13]

LOL
I love that the Lemonds are now the 'alien overlords'…

I'll bet Betsy even wears this in the kitchen…

 

[frenchfry]

LOL
I love that the Lemonds are now the 'alien overlords'…

I'll bet Betsy even wears this in the kitchen…

Why is it always the woman in the kitchen?

 

[Granville57]

Why is it always the woman in the kitchen?

Because the men might spit in the soup.

Oh wait...

 

[Granville57]

From the French and their anti-American ways, to the USADA Witch Hunt/budget justifier, the world is clearly out to get Lance.

Does anyone have a comprehensive list of those with an axe to grind?

1. Swart
2. Andreus
3. The French
4. USADA in general
5. Novitzky
6. Tygart
7. Mike Anderson
8. Emma O'Reilly
9. David Walsh

Dude, you made a list without Floyd!

 

[Jack Ruby]

10 Landis
11 Lemond
12 Hamilton