Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[arthurvandelay]

Re: Re:cancer "charities", personal benefit

All the contenders were doping. Lance and the Posties were the best at it. Lance's downfall happened because he was unnecessarily cruel to his accomplices (and their spouses). Otherwise, he'd be just another suspect champion in a corrupt "sport."

.......who used a multimillion dollar charity for personal benefit.....and lied to kids dying of cancer.

This guy is in a league of his own.

The other thing that a lot of folks have overlooked is that he took money from cancer patients and their families to charter private jets (mucho $$$$$) to smuggle blood and EPO from the US to Europe under the guise of "cancer awareness". Floyd L confirmed this saying that the Livestrong charters were a terrific way to smuggle drugs and blood in because the Customs officers would never search a plane on such an important humanitarian mission. I truly cannot think of a more disgusting act: tricking folks with cancer and their families to finance drug smuggling. Beyond disgusting, and I sincerely hope that he loses the Landis whistleblower suit.

 

[webvan]

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Lance Armstrong is a big fat idiot.

...and a complete **** (proof below, admits he was and he did not change since then)


While apologising for certain behaviour during his professional career, Armstrong admitted in the interview with the AFP journalists he was "a complete **** for a long time".

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-fearing-financial-ruin-from-federal-whistleblower-lawsuit

Indeed, I nearly fell off my chair when reading that interview, still the same horrible person he was 5 years ago when he said "we like our word vs Floyd's" now it's "We like our case is all I will say. I'm not going to jinx myself." !

What must be killing him of course is that Floyd who he treated like dirt when a small contract would probably have made the problem go away would be getting a third of that money. Honestly I can't think anyone apart from his wife and kids who will be sorry for him (and I guess we can be sorry for the kids, Anna "we're the Armstrongs" chose her destiny) if he gets what he deserves.

 

[Tonton]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

I just watched the trailer of "The Program", and I feel the morbid need to watch the entire movie. And see how he is depicted. The biggest fraud.
To the apologists out there, yes he beat other dopers, but there are guys who finished 20th, 30th maybe who were cheated of a great career, fame, money, guys who didn't benefit from a 10% advantage as Tyler demonstrated. In a sport where 1% or 2% is the difference between good and great...
End of an era: Wonderboy disgraced, W rated as one of the worst POTUS ever, MatthewMcC in lame car commercials. I wonder if they still ride their MTB together .

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Lance's latest interview with Cycling News about his possibly going broke simply reinforces the impression all along that he is not very bright. He seems naïve in the extreme about a lot of things

1. What it takes to be contrite
2. How to go about being contrite
3. What is means to cooperate with USADA. My hunch is if he had worked things out with Tygart his ban would have been reduced by now and at least given him some hope of continuing to earn money from cycling in the future or from triathlon
4. What CIRC was all about. He seems to think having a conversation over tea was going to solve all his problems
5. What the impact of the whistleblower suit may have on him and his family

He simply does not seem to understand how deeply his cheating, lying and prevarication impacted the sport. Its as like he lives in a bubble. I wonder if Hanlon's razor applies - “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

 

[Berzin]

In his latest interview, Armstrong says he doesn't have enough money to cover the whistleblower lawsuit if he loses, but he continues to fight every lawsuit like he's made out of money. So it's hard for me to garner sympathy for his financial plight.

An aspect of contrition is to lay down when you're fighting a losing battle that's going to cost you so much when (not if) you lose.

He could have settled out of court, he could have done any number of things. But he's a "fighter", and he doesn't know how to turn that gene off.

Trailer for "The Program", US release date not yet announced-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMTPvXtvkZU

 

[Stingray34]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Is Ben Foster playing both Lance and Levi?

 

[Tyre Byter]

In the trailer, at any rate, the Armstrong characterization is pretty whimp.

 

[blackcat]

come on, Och and Gorski, I think it is Gorski, he went to work for Thomas Wiesel and Partners, he has squirreled away a hefty fortune in Swiss banks, remember when that whistleblower gave the Feds or the SEC the files on the bank accounts for IRS evaders at UBS Warburg in Zurich.

I would put my life on it that Lance had atleast one account there.

 

[blackcat]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Is Ben Foster playing both Lance and Levi?

so who would play bottle?

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:cancer "charities", personal benefit

All the contenders were doping. Lance and the Posties were the best at it. Lance's downfall happened because he was unnecessarily cruel to his accomplices (and their spouses). Otherwise, he'd be just another suspect champion in a corrupt "sport."

.......who used a multimillion dollar charity for personal benefit.....and lied to kids dying of cancer.

This guy is in a league of his own.

The other thing that a lot of folks have overlooked is that he took money from cancer patients and their families to charter private jets (mucho $$$$$) to smuggle blood and EPO from the US to Europe under the guise of "cancer awareness". Floyd L confirmed this saying that the Livestrong charters were a terrific way to smuggle drugs and blood in because the Customs officers would never search a plane on such an important humanitarian mission. I truly cannot think of a more disgusting act: tricking folks with cancer and their families to finance drug smuggling. Beyond disgusting, and I sincerely hope that he loses the Landis whistleblower suit.

arthur Lance had Sarkozy on speed dial

 

[the delgados]

I wish journalists would do more than give Armstrong a redemption tour platform.
Like maybe pry a little more into the comments he made to Oprah regarding his return to the sport. He claimed his comeback was dope-free. We all know what a joke that is, yet no one asks the follow-up question--i.e. So Astana took a break from doping during your return to the sport? Because now you're pointing the finger at the team you used to ride for.

 

[Benotti69]

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I wish journalists would do more than give Armstrong a redemption tour platform.
Like maybe pry a little more into the comments he made to Oprah regarding his return to the sport. He claimed his comeback was dope-free. We all know what a joke that is, yet no one asks the follow-up question--i.e. So Astana took a break from doping during your return to the sport? Because now you're pointing the finger at the team you used to ride for.

Armstrong has not changed. He is picking those to talk to with care. Where is the interview with Kimmage, Walsh, Whittle or Ballestre?

Armstrong trying to get a media pressure and public outcry about him being made a scapegoat. Shows how desperate he is, which is good. Wonder did Mama Armstrong keep the trailer............

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

The most recent excerpt in CN of Armstrong's interview in Aspen with reporters (not journalists) once again brings into question Armstrong's intelligence or more appropriately his lack of one.

LA states "You guys can decide if he has done a good job, if he's been tough on Astana, whether he's stuck with his mission statement." In the next breath he says, "I don't know what his vision is for the sport."

This proves LA is simply trolling, and spewing B$ out of pure ignorance. Cookson AND the vast majority of cycling fans are correct that LA's planned "One Day Ahead" is disrespectful to the TDF and a garish PR stunt.

LA's complaint Cookson does not know how to take dopers down is aided and abetted by his abject failure to co-operate with USADA, WADA and the UCI and not Oprah. If he wants Cookson to be part of the solution then LA needs to tell Cookson absolutely everything he knows. It does not start with Cookson. It starts with LA. This will not happen because LA does not have the moral strength of character to do the right thing.

Once again why reporters continue to seek out comment from this fraud defies logic. Armstrong has a pathological and obsessive need for attention. We do not need the atmosphere sullied with his bloviating stupidity. We need wholesale climate change.

 

[doperhopper]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Looks like Uniballer is really afraid this time. Quiet for long time, now the big money lawsuit comes and here we go, big arrogant mouth opens again, giving interviews, teaching everyone what to do, even testing waters for his "one day ahead of TdF" ride "for charity"... maybe he'll claim afterwards that he actually won all the stages. Maybe they should not oppose, let him ride, and surprise-test him somewhere in the mountains (and whatever the result will be, claim he was doped to the gills - would be a nice revenge of Cookson whom Liestrong just accused he "is not good in taking people down").

 

[Benotti69]

Could interpol arrest Armstrong for transporting pharmaceuticals illegally across borders?

Or at least detain him long enough to question him about it and he miss the charity cycle......

 

[RobbieCanuck]

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Could interpol arrest Armstrong for transporting pharmaceuticals illegally across borders?

Or at least detain him long enough to question him about it and he miss the charity cycle......

I don't think Interpol can unilaterally arrest him. They are strictly an international police force and they would need an arrest warrant from a jurisdiction that had reasonable grounds he had committed an offence.

I suspect there are several jurisdictions who have that belief (Spain, France), but do not have the political will to pursue those kinds of charges. Most jurisdictions are content that he is banned for life, and probably consider him passé. The evidence on the other hand is readily available.

But it would also involve a complex extradition hearing in the US that would stretch out for years. Most prosecution offices would not allocate the resources and the enormous money to pursue that kind of charge.

BUT maybe when LA goes to France for his One Day Ahead tour the French and Spanish authorities can pounce. It would make great press wouldn't it and give LA a crowbar hotel holiday away from Aspen.

 

[HiroAntagonist]

What a dbag. Seeing him in desperation mode is a satisfying, if not ideal way to see the bullying and narcissistic brought down. I am appreciating the peg by peg nature of his downfall though.

 

[Tangled Tango]

Re: Re:llish

Lance - just go away
1. You are banned for life - get over it
2. Stay away from any organized cycling event
3. You did not win 7 TDFs - you finished first by enhancing your performance with PEDs. That is not winning it is cheating.
4. Your views in the media (who for some strange reason still feel the need to talk to you) are arcane, vacuous and stupid. We don't care what you think about diddly.
5. You deceived hundreds of thousands of cancer patients about your ability as a cyclist. You gave them false hope.
6. You have ripped off Livestrong.org by charging them obscene appearance fees and expenses.
7. You have cheated and probably defrauded USPS.
8. You are a bully who defamed and tried to take down some very nice people
9. You are not contrite
10. You won't name names
11. You have only told a small portion of the truth
12. You are an arrogant, hubristic, egomaniac
13. You may have a major personality disorder
14. You are probably sociopathic and maybe psychopathic - I challenge you to take the Hare Test.
15. You are a serial cheater and liar

Please disappear to where the a$$h@le$ of the world disappear to.[/quote]

Too good a post not to repeat it. Thanks!

 

[skippythepinhead]

Listen, if I could walk the world and face-to-face apologize, I would."

What's stopping you, Lance?

Where are the follow-ups? Why is the question of whether Landis should get a chunk of change left unresponded to? Where is the context?

 

[MarkvW]

Lance embodies the UCI. McBruggen's craven abandonment of him was the sweetest twist.

 

[pastronef]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

The Clear @vayerism noticed Lance training with some Hincapie Dev. riders

 

[sniper]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

David Walsh ‏@DavidWalshST Jun 11

For LA to say Betsy Andreu unsure about hospital room is a malicious lie. He then apologises to her for how he's treated her. #purehypocrisy

wow, Walsh lecturing about hypocrisy.
That's rich.

 

[Benotti69]

Kimmage again calling it and seeing through the Armstrong BS

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/paul-kimmage-dont-ask-me-to-feel-sorry-for-lance-armstrong-or-see-him-as-a-victim-31300481.html

 

[Berzin]

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Kimmage again calling it and seeing through the Armstrong BS

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/paul-kimmage-dont-ask-me-to-feel-sorry-for-lance-armstrong-or-see-him-as-a-victim-31300481.html

The article has been totally blocked out, at least for us US viewers.

 

[King Boonen]

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Kimmage again calling it and seeing through the Armstrong BS

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/paul-kimmage-dont-ask-me-to-feel-sorry-for-lance-armstrong-or-see-him-as-a-victim-31300481.html

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