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[I Watch Cycling In July]

So either a) Saugy gave the sworn statement, and 60 m has misconstrued it; or b) Rivier gave the ( or another) sworn statement. But if b), why would Saugy not know about this? Saugy’s intent seemed to be to deny 60 m allegations. Is he possibly completely in the dark about another incident, which Rivier knows about and is not commenting on publicly?

But after Landis made his allegation last summer, Saugy approached Howman during meetings in Lausanne, expressing concern about a “suspicious result”he had discovered during a doping analysis years previously, Howman said.

“What he did was quite professional and quite proper,” Howman said. “I stopped the conversation. I put him in touch with the right people.”

According to that article, Saugy also spoke to the feds and USADA.

Elsewhere Howman has commented that it's only a positive when it's recorded as a positive. Sylvia Schenk said something like it's not possible to hide a positive but it might be possible to find a medical explanation for results.

I speculate that Saugy's public statements indicating that, once the results were recorded as suspicious they were properly dealt with, are accurate. He doesn't seem worried about what happened after the result was entered into the records, so what was he worried about? What I want to know is what happened before the word "suspicious" was entered into the record books...

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

...How many other teammates and associates will be emboldened by Tyler's appearance? Plenty....

I'm thinking the dam will break once GQ Georgie's testimony becomes public. There can't be anyone on earth -- save maybe The Hog and Dr. Ferrari himself -- whose omertà Pharmstrong was banking on more than his 7-time TdF lieutenant. When Hincapie rolls over, the next sound you hear will be ....

 

[thehog]

http://thestir.cafemom.com/sports/121126/lance_armstrong_thinks_hes_got

Good wrap.

 

[MarkvW]

I'm thinking the dam will break once GQ Georgie's testimony becomes public. There can't be anyone on earth -- save maybe The Hog and Dr. Ferrari himself -- whose omertà Pharmstrong was banking on more than his 7-time TdF lieutenant. When Hincapie rolls over, the next sound you hear will be ....

I'd trade Pharmstrong, Alpuerto, Shamilton, and Fraud for one Ferrari locked up in a jail cell for five years.

 

[mewmewmew13]

I'd trade Pharmstrong, Alpuerto, Shamilton, and Fraud for one Ferrari locked up in a jail cell for five years.

Pharmstrong should not get away with what he has done. He is way too big of a player in the whole scope of things and has profited hugely from his sham. He is just as guilty as Ferrari in his own right.
Remember he has also smeared and financially ruined others as well...

 

[Galic Ho]

That was pretty damn funny. Cheers

 

[Merckx index]

How much do you think that this one letter alone cost?

I am thinking at least $10/word.

Which would put its cost at around $13,000. I think I would request the $900 hourly rate. A true bargain.

 

[Topangarider]

Interesting to note they're still using the the term "positive"result. That gives them room to move.

I also thought "charitable contributions" was a nice touch! Thanks Lance!

Thankfully 60 Minutes will be airing some more revelations this week to counter this BS..

I wish that were true but 60mn is saying no follow up as there is nothing more to add. They are very happy with their piece

 

[veganrob]

That is very funny.

 

[mewmewmew13]

I wish that were true but 60mn is saying no follow up as there is nothing more to add. They are very happy with their piece

They may be holding their cards closely...and waiting to see what LA and his team play next.

 

[theswordsman]

Reading that Armstrong's lawyer accused 60 Minutes of "character assassination" activated my irony mechanism. I flashed back to that vile, unprovoked December 30, 2009 interview where LA blamed Alberto for losing his Astana teammates, accused Marca of wiping Contador's @#$%, complained about Alberto's "yes men", etc. Nieuwsblad no longer has it, but Telegraaf does. Anyway, there was a quote in the Cycling News summary that I think might finally be fulfilling the prophecy.

I understand that the Spanish media stands up for their hero, but it was so untrue what was printed. Come on, at the end of the day as a journalist, you f**king do proclaim the truth."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-slams-contadors-entourage

 

[Topangarider]

According to that article, Saugy also spoke to the feds and USADA.

Elsewhere Howman has commented that it's only a positive when it's recorded as a positive. Sylvia Schenk said something like it's not possible to hide a positive but it might be possible to find a medical explanation for results.

I speculate that Saugy's public statements indicating that, once the results were recorded as suspicious they were properly dealt with, are accurate. He doesn't seem worried about what happened after the result was entered into the records, so what was he worried about? What I want to know is what happened before the word "suspicious" was entered into the record books...

This seems to clarify some but not all points -
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/news/story?id=6614413

Pass the popcorn

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Great stuff.

Need to see the stuff from 2010 again.

 

[Lajeretta4Ever]

It was ok, but not anywhere near as funny as those 2010 episodes.

 

[I Watch Cycling In July]

However, missing in that batch are the results from Armstrong's 2001 tests -- results that do, in fact, exist, according to the statement Saugy is said to have given federal authorities.

Pass the popcorn? I'm hoarding in anticipation of a global shortage - sorry.

 

[Hmmmmm]

Thanks for posting. Still laughing.

 

[oldschoolnik]

It was ok, but not anywhere near as funny as those 2010 episodes.

I was a huge fan of the 2010 episodes and this one is on par with those. Some of those were clearly done when the creator was deep in the peak creativity zone--but this one is still funny.


We want more.

 

[D-Queued]

Which would put its cost at around $13,000. I think I would request the $900 hourly rate. A true bargain.

One attorney wrote it, another proof read it along with a couple of associates, two founding partners reviewed it and one of them signed it on behalf of both. My estimate may have been shy.

(Rule of thumb for technical writers is 1,000 final draft words/day)

Maybe they gave him a bargain rate at $15,000 per letter.

Hope they write more. It is quite the fairy tale.

But, I have a feeling the wicked witch has started a melt-down of epic proportions. The entire house of cards is about to land on top of him. He will soon find himself having to cough up all of his yellow, as he heads down the brick road.

Dave.

 

[D-Queued]

It was ok, but not anywhere near as funny as those 2010 episodes.

The monolog here is very well written. That takes a lot of effort and creativity.

Dave.

 

[thehog]

This seems to clarify some but not all points -
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/news/story?id=6614413

Pass the popcorn

Saugy's hidin' something.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/news/story?id=6614413

The AP has learned that on three occasions, Saugy told authorities about the Armstrong tests and had agreed to turn over the results to anti-doping officials. But he never produced them, which prompted the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency to send him a letter in April asking for the evidence.

The letter was obtained by "60 Minutes," which also aired an interview with Tyler Hamilton, a former Armstrong teammate, who said the champion cyclist had told him that he had tested positive at the 2001 Tour de Swiss, but that it wouldn't be a problem because "people took care of it."

The Hamilton interview reasserted allegations made a year earlier by Floyd Landis, another former teammate of Armstrong's.

After the "60 Minutes" segment ran, Armstrong's camp launched a website that produced documents from the Swiss lab, which provided all of its positive tests from the race between 2001 and 2003. Armstrong's initials aren't next to any of the positives.

However, missing in that batch are the results from Armstrong's 2001 tests -- results that do, in fact, exist, according to the statement Saugy is said to have given federal authorities.

 

[Parrulo]

this was hilarious

but can i get a link for the 2010 ones please?

 

[NashbarShorts]

"Saugy said to have reported Armstrong samples to FDA"

I smell the next headline:

ARMSTRONG'S ATTORNEYS DEMAND APOLOGY FROM CYCLINGNEWS

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

Slowtwitch (mostly) discovers the truth about Livestrong. More of this in more places will help.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/S...udBytes_On_Lance_(Interesting_Read)_P3366561/

 

[The Hitch]

this was hilarious

but can i get a link for the 2010 ones please?

Im not a fan but i remember it was called "days of our Lance"

So here it is

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=8727

 

[Parrulo]

Im not a fan but i remember it was called "days of our Lance"

So here it is

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=8727

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