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fraudbytes on the money

Damiano Machiavelli said:
Slowtwitch (mostly) discovers the truth about Livestrong. More of this in more places will help.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/S...udBytes_On_Lance_(Interesting_Read)_P3366561/

Thanks Damiano for your link, which had a link to http://fraudbytes.blogspot.com/
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"In the end, which of these individuals do you have more respect for? The guy who lies for years and then finally admits he was lying or the guy who lies for his whole life until his death bed? Ironically, it seems that those who hate Floyd and Tyler are saying they admire most the guy who lies his whole life until his death bed..."

http://fraudbytes.blogspot.com/2011...ter&utm_campaign=Feed:+Fraudbytes+(FraudBytes
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GreasyMonkey said:
.... as the good ship Armstrong founders on the rocks of truth & justice.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/radioshack-coy-on-2012-plans-for-team

Radio Shack appears to be distancing it'self from Armstrong, and jumping on the LiveStrong liferaft - soon that too will be overrun and founder on the Novitsky shoals.

It does indeed seem that way. Nike will probably stick with him the longest. As I've posted before, look for a couple of his corporate sponsors to be indicted along with him.
 
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That one is not far from the truth. Hear Wonderboy and the garden gnome are not getting along that well these days
 
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Cimacoppi49 said:
It does indeed seem that way. Nike will probably stick with him the longest. As I've posted before, look for a couple of his corporate sponsors to be indicted along with him.

Nike usually does not bail on controversial athletes (e.g. Kobe and Tiger). I don't see how corporate sponsors (other than possibly Weisel) would be indicted. I just don't see how they would have knowledge of what was going on and were going along with it.
 
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GreasyMonkey said:
.... as the good ship Armstrong founders on the rocks of truth & justice.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/radioshack-coy-on-2012-plans-for-team

Radio Shack appears to be distancing it'self from Armstrong, and jumping on the LiveStrong liferaft - soon that too will be overrun and founder on the Novitsky shoals.

One possible strategy would be to attempt to sever the synonomous image of Armstrong and LIVESTRONG, and instead focus solely on the latter.

That is some crazy stuff. Time for Lance to revert back to Gunderson?
 

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This is sheer brilliance.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...en-letter-to-lance-armstrongs-lawyers/239851/


Re: June 1 demand for public apology from CBS News

Dear shameless, high-priced flacks esteemed legal representatives of Lance Armstrong,

On behalf of the segment of the population that is currently awake, paying attention, and not in a medically comatose and/or trauma-induced vegetative state, I ask that you explain to the general public that your demand that 60 Minutes apologize on air to Lance Armstrong was a cynical, empty public relations gesture that even an unusually perceptive chimpanzee could see right through.

Moreover, I demand that you issue a written apology to the American public for holding its collective intelligence in such obvious and searing contempt, as well as mistakenly assuming that your law degrees confer not only legal knowledge and a peerless ability to obfuscate, but also Jedi mind trick powers.

They do not. No matter how high your hourly rate is.

Your aggrieved letter to CBS News centers around a single allegation made during the May 22 broadcast of 60 Minutes: that Armstrong tested positive for the banned performance-enhancing blood-booster EPO during the 2001 Tour of Switzerland and possibly had the result covered up. You state that this allegation is reckless. You call it demonstrably false. You repeatedly throw out the word "defamatory." You dub correspondent Scott Pelley's words "untethered to reality." You spend four droning, repetitive pages - seriously, your whole argument could have been squeezed into three paragraphs - complaining about the unjust, inexcusable, shoddy, and vicious failed drug test allegation, as if every other damning allegation made during the program never existed.

Talk about untethered to reality.
 
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El Oso said:
Nike usually does not bail on controversial athletes (e.g. Kobe and Tiger). I don't see how corporate sponsors (other than possibly Weisel) would be indicted. I just don't see how they would have knowledge of what was going on and were going along with it.
If Oakley is any indicator, there was knowledge of doping by his major corporate sponsors. That's a far different situation than knowing about Tiger messing around.

Time will tell.
 

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Cimacoppi49 said:
If Oakley is any indicator, there was knowledge of doping by his major corporate sponsors. That's a far different situation than knowing about Tiger messing around.

Time will tell.

Cheating on your wife is worse, right?

Cimacoppi49 said:
It does indeed seem that way. Nike will probably stick with him the longest. As I've posted before, look for a couple of his corporate sponsors to be indicted along with him.

Yes, you have told us all before to look for corporate indictments...
Look look look.
I've been looking...

Any clues as to where we can find them?
Hello, corporate indictments, where are you...
Hello....hello...anybody out there?
 
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The Armstrong trolls are getting so desperate for attention they are now writing in iambic pentameter.

What a joyless life they lead.
 
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Polish said:
Cheating on your wife is worse, right?



Yes, you have told us all before to look for corporate indictments...
Look look look.
I've been looking...

Any clues as to where we can find them?
Hello, corporate indictments, where are you...
Hello....hello...anybody out there?

Wow. Wanna talk about someone "untethered to reality". You not only take the cake and all the icing.
 
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I must agree with Polish on this one.

I think Lance is in deep do-do, but there will be no corporate sponsors that are indicted.

edit...whoops to clarify.... outside of possibly Wiesel and Tailwind, there will be no corporate sponsors indicted.
 
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Berzin said:
The Armstrong trolls are getting so desperate for attention they are now writing in iambic pentameter.

Me, I prefer limericks:

Two fanboys, Polish and Flicker,
As indictments approached became sicker
They denied that he drugged
Or the taxpayers mugged
Then returned to their comforting liquor
 

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Merckx index said:
Me, I prefer limericks:

Two fanboys, Polish and Flicker,
As indictments approached became sicker
They denied that he drugged
Or the taxpayers mugged
Then returned to their comforting liquor

I prefer haiku
Man and Nature and the Bike
There are no secrets
 
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Federal grand jury indicts former US candidate, John Edwards, over allegations he misused campaign funds.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/03/john-edwards-indicted-money-affair


any similarity with the misuse of USPS money by Tailwind sports to purchase Edgar Allen Poe in large quantities?

"The indictment is the culmination of a federal investigation that lasted more than two years and scoured through virtually every corner of Edwards' political career"

Seems they are thorough.
 
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Benotti69 said:
Federal grand jury indicts former US candidate, John Edwards, over allegations he misused campaign funds.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/03/john-edwards-indicted-money-affair


any similarity with the misuse of USPS money by Tailwind sports to purchase Edgar Allen Poe in large quantities?

"The indictment is the culmination of a federal investigation that lasted more than two years and scoured through virtually every corner of Edwards' political career"

Seems they are thorough.

Campaign finance is a pretty clear set of laws so the similarities between the two cases are minimal. The biggest similarity between the two is when the US Gov starts poking around you're ****ed. This dumb *** should settle but he probably won't, I see he pleaded not guilty.
 
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JRTinMA said:

Take what folks have said here for the last year and you assemble the same thoughts. That a CEO of a company would say it is telling and tandems well with Vrooman's commentary. It's looking like many are stepping far enough back from the impending explosion to avoid collateral damage and would be ironic if Lemond's company prospered in the wake of a Trek collapse. It's an interesting question: what are happening to Trek's sales numbers, particularly Madones and the upper end stuff?
 
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Oldman said:
Take what folks have said here for the last year and you assemble the same thoughts. That a CEO of a company would say it is telling and tandems well with Vrooman's commentary. It's looking like many are stepping far enough back from the impending explosion to avoid collateral damage and would be ironic if Lemond's company prospered in the wake of a Trek collapse. It's an interesting question: what are happening to Trek's sales numbers, particularly Madones and the upper end stuff?

I agree with you but its different when CEO's start talking like you noted. I think there will always be trends in cycling based on which frame a pro is riding and winning on. I guess it will all boil down to wether or not people see Trek as complicit in the fraud that is cycling, or see them as in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think even before the LA news became common knowledge Specialized has been making consistent and significant gains in the US over Trek. This is totally opinion based on what I like and what I see guys riding out on the road and bike shop friends, I don't have nums. On a personal note, back in the 90's I owned everything Klein made, I never forgave Trek for buying them and ruining the brand. I think Gary Klein is making clocks now, serious.

Edit: He's making telescopes lol
 
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Benotti69 said:
Federal grand jury indicts former US candidate, John Edwards, over allegations he misused campaign funds.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/03/john-edwards-indicted-money-affair

any similarity with the misuse of USPS money by Tailwind sports to purchase Edgar Allen Poe in large quantities?
I found this story to be even more reveling in terms of relating to the LA case:
http://powerwall.msnbc.msn.com/politics/john-edwards-enabler-claims-vindication-over-indictment-1690739.story
Andrew Young, the loyal aide who once claimed that Edwards' out-of-wedlock baby was his own, cooperated with federal prosecutors who brought the six-count indictment Friday in exchange for avoiding charges in the case.
We might be seeing more of this type of thing soon.
 
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