Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[NedBraden]

It's interesting how the actual info involves both sides saying some words were had, but certain people on here saying much more happened.

 

[peacefultribe]

Lance Armstrong is a jackass. I doubt that Cache Cache is hurting for business, but I do hope that they have to suffer some consequence for the owner behaving like a school yard henchman.

If the accounts are true, then once again, Lance Armstrong looks like nothing more than a piece of trash. I hope that he rots in hell.

 

[Ferminal]

It's interesting how the actual info involves both sides saying some words were had, but certain people on here saying much more happened.

Where has anyone suggested that it was anything other than an exchange of words?

 

[NedBraden]

Where has anyone suggested that it was anything other than an exchange of words?

I did not say it was more then words, simply that some words were said while other make it seem like more. One example:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=558087&postcount=2655

 

[Ferminal]

I did not say it was more then words, simply that some words were said while other make it seem like more. One example:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=558087&postcount=2655

Yes, from the article:

"Armstrong began to berate him."

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

I did not say it was more then words, simply that some words were said while other make it seem like more. One example:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=558087&postcount=2655

That sounds like a fairly accurate early report of the incident. Keep trying. I am sure that you will eventually find something to impress the alternative crowd. You could try a tattoo.

 

[NedBraden]

Yes, from the article:

"Armstrong began to berate him."

Yes and where is the "info" that is claimed in the post I linked? Not in the article. Thus he is making it seem like more then what it was.

 

[Ferminal]

Yes and where is the "info" that is claimed in the post I linked? Not in the article. Thus he is making it seem like more then what it was.

What info? Even thehog's typical creative extension of events was not far from what actually happened, as described in the article. thehog says they talked, thehog says Lance was critical of Tyler. The article says both these things.

 

[NedBraden]

That sounds like a fairly accurate early report of the incident. Keep trying. I am sure that you will eventually find something to impress the alternative crowd. You could try a tattoo.

My response to you in the Och thread must have hit a nerve since you are carrying it over to this thread. Bad memories bringing up some deep insecurities? It's ok, I like you anyway.

 

[NedBraden]

What info? Even thehog's typical creative extension of events was not far from what actually happened, as described in the article. thehog says they talked, thehog says Lance was critical of Tyler. The article says both these things.

Well for one, the article presents two versions of what happened. It also says nothing of Armstrong baiting Tyler "about helping him and all he's done for Hamilton." Did I miss the part about the baiting? Could you tell me where that is in the article? Thanks.

Oh, by the way, for the record, I believe Tyler's account, so you can forget the usual "you're an LA fanboy" nonsense that usually comes in right about now.

 

[Granville57]

blah blah blah...

Anything of value to add to the discussion?

 

[Ferminal]

Well for one, the article presents two versions of what happened. It also says nothing of Armstrong baiting Tyler "about helping him and all he's done for Hamilton." Did I miss the part about the baiting? Could you tell me where that is in the article? Thanks.

Oh, by the way, for the record, I believe Tyler's account, so you can forget the usual "you're an LA fanboy" nonsense that usually comes in right about now.

The article provides no information on what Armstrong said, only that he "berated him (Tyler)". (Except the "Hey, what's up" which we don't believe).

Berating Tyler could very well consist of "baiting him about all the work Tyler has done". We do not have a complete transcript of the conversation, but both phrases paint a very similar picture of the way the events unfolded.

 

[NedBraden]

The article provides no information on what Armstrong said, only that he "berated him (Tyler)". (Except the "Hey, what's up" which we don't believe).

Berating Tyler could very well consist of "baiting him about all the work Tyler has done". We do not have a complete transcript of the conversation, but both phrases paint a very similar picture of the way the events unfolded.

Which is my point. The article doesn't say it, but Hog claims it.

I appreciate you backing up what I said. Now, as a moderator, perhaps you could clean up the off-topic posts and obvious trolling by granville and machiavelli, so that those of us who want to have actually conversation about the topic without argument may do so.

 

[El Oso]

Lance owns Aspen.

I would think that Lance's money is pocket change compared to some other notable homeowners in Aspen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen,_Colorado#Famous_part-time_residents_.28Past_.26_Present.29

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ch-snaps-18million-ranch-Rocky-Mountains.html

 

[D-Queued]

A little birdie sent me this link to the story on the meet:

http://outside-blog.away.com/blog/2011/06/lance-armstrong-and-tyler-hamilton-walk-into-a-bar.html

Dave.

 

[Ferminal]

Which is my point. The article doesn't say it, but Hog claims it.

I appreciate you backing up what I said. Now, as a moderator, perhaps you could clean up the off-topic posts and obvious trolling by granville and machiavelli, so that those of us who want to have actually conversation about the topic without argument may do so.

No, I disagree with your assertion that thehog suggested "much more" happened than did, as described by the "Outside" article, as both descriptions of events are more or less the same.

 

[Maxiton]

All that blah, blah, blah is risky for Lance. Tyler is a definite potential trial witness. Reminding him of all he's done is a very subtle form of intimidation.

Question. Does anyone know if Haven has been subpoenaed to the grand jury? If so, was her new boyfriend her attorney when that occurred? I would think that she and Kristin would have a wealth of relevant information to share with the US Attorney.

Also, has Odessa been before the grand jury?

Nothing subtle about it. This behavior from Armstrong and the restaurant owner (who possibly tipped off Lance that TH had a reservation) is disgusting. It's a clear case of witness intimidation, and I hope the restaurant owner finds herself sitting in a courtroom, fat subpoena in hand.

 

[D-Queued]

Nothing subtle about it. This behavior from Armstrong and the restaurant owner (who possibly tipped off Lance that TH had a reservation) is disgusting. It's a clear case of witness intimidation, and I hope the restaurant owner finds herself sitting in a courtroom, fat subpoena in hand.

No kidding.

All those analogies to the mob seem all the more appropriate. Right out of Mario Puzo.

Dave.

 

[frenchfry]

Aspen is small...and Lance is shrewd. Seems like the buzz about all the Outside folks being at the bar would be pretty well known and if he had wanted, LA could easily have avoided being there. ..That doesn't sound like him, though, so can totally seeing him purposely 'bumping into' TH.
...thug that he is..

Interesting that Lancey-poo was doing the dirty work himself instead of sending one of his paid thugs to intimidate and berate one of his detractors. Is he getting careless? After all, the Simeoni incident didn't help his image much.

Was Eki there to spit on Hamilton after Armstrong finished with him?

 

[theswordsman]

I agree that it was typical behavior by Armstrong. I wonder if he could get away with it this time because right now Hamilton is a guy who already testified before a grand jury, but Lance hasn't been indicted yet so he's not yet a witness for a trial?

Whatever, the guy continues his reign of terror, and the restaurant owner did bring to mind movie stereotypes I won't get into. I'd love to see indictments come down before July, and I'd especially love to live in a country where Hamilton was wearing a wire during the conversation.

 

[dbrmuz]

Interesting that Lancey-poo was doing the dirty work himself instead of sending one of his paid thugs to intimidate and berate one of his detractors. Is he getting careless? After all, the Simeoni incident didn't help his image much.

Maybe he's trying to save a few bucks by doing it himself.

 

[euanli]

JV provides his take on the Cache Cache incident:

@Ty_Hamilton...Hang in there.

Bullies have a special place in my little black heart.

 

[Grand Tourist]

Question. Does anyone know if Haven has been subpoenaed to the grand jury? If so, was her new boyfriend her attorney when that occurred? I would think that she and Kristin would have a wealth of relevant information to share with the US Attorney.

What about Sheryl Crow as well? I would have though she is more likely to have direct evidence of Armstrong's 'antics' than Haven. After all he was parading her around between 2003 & his last tour victory in 2005.

 

[washedup]

LA movie?!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tour-de-cinema-lance-armstrong-200116


The next Seabiscuit?

!Edit!
Article seems to be just reposted under today's date. Sorry

 

[uspostal]

Whats the big deal about all this restraunt stuff. 2 people who don't agree end up at the same place at the same time, the restraunt owner sides with the guy with the bigger pockets and has a much bigger name. Who's better for buisness a 7 time TDF winner or a admitted cheater. People seem to be looking for a story that isn't there. Relax and enjoy it for what it is, the little guy getting smacked back into his place.