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[frenchfry]

can someone put together a complete list of people who reportedly*
were threatened by texas (for one reason or another) whilst involved in legal proceedings or being a witness ?

I'll start:

simeoni
betsy
lemond ?
Hamilton
.........
.......




*=could be traced to a published material

Good point. I am amazed that so many are surprised that Lancey-poo exhibits this kind of behaviour, when it has been his modus operandi for years. He seems to thrive on making people's lives a living hell - even more so than eradicating cancer.

This is just one example of why there are so many haters out there. It’s not about the doping.

 

[dbrmuz]

Good point. I am amazed that so many are surprised that Lancey-poo exhibits this kind of behaviour, when it has been his modus operandi for years. He seems to thrive on making people's lives a living hell - even more so than eradicating cancer.

This is just one example of why there are so many haters out there. It’s not about the doping.

Joe Lindsey published a piece years ago where he mentioned the "public" Lance (nice guy) and the "private" Lance (spiteful,vindictive,manipulative etc etc) which obviously helped his troll rating no end.Good article too.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Odds are that they indeed do have operating cameras,recording directly to a HD somewhere.Anyone want to take bets on the footage being erased by now?

Probably not, but time will tell. Question. Was Armstrong at CC for dinner or did he just drop by for a drink at the bar.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Good point. I am amazed that so many are surprised that Lancey-poo exhibits this kind of behaviour, when it has been his modus operandi for years. He seems to thrive on making people's lives a living hell - even more so than eradicating cancer.

This is just one example of why there are so many haters out there. It’s not about the doping.

Steffan Prentis
Anderson
Emma O'Reilly
David Walsh
Pierre Ballestier (sp?)

 

[krebs303]

http://nyvelocity.com/content/toto/2011/toto-turns-232

Toto!!!!

ROFLMAO
"If the twin hasn't vanished you cannot banish"

 

[dbrmuz]

haven't yet found the old Boulder Report article I referred to before,but I came across another with an amusing line:

Lance Armstrong – Troy McClure
Hi, I’m Troy McClure. You might remember me from such movies as “Tour de France Beatdown” and “Sunday, Bloody Sunday Times.”

From here.http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2006/06/23/boulder-report-tour-de-springfield/

 

[SpeedWay]

This is just one example of why there are so many haters out there. It’s not about the doping.

Word. It never was about the doping - just about the hate.

 

[BillytheKid]

At some point, someone needs to ask LA and his idiot circle, "Wow, how do you guys account for having the worst possible judge of character when so many ex-employees, teammates, friends and associates turn against you? Did you just happen to align yourselves with so many pathological liars? How could that be?"

This story should really have an impact on some of the uninformed. I think a lot of VN readers might suddenly sit up and take notice if they haven't already.

Mike, I have a good feeling that you're going to get the last word on this one.
Here's to ya'

Worth noting that both Landis and Hamilton had destroyed their careers. Both stand to profit from their accusations or rather this is their knew method by which they can profit. Landis stand to gain from witness blower money if fraud is proven. Hamilton a book deal?

Hincapie might be another story, but we don't really know the exent of his testimony. I could say more about Hamilton prior to Postal, but was moded out. Doubtful that LA is the kingpin if proof beyond a reasonable doubt arises. He would be most likely just as much a victim as any of the others. We will have to wait to see what he brings forth at trial about those who shaped his career.

 

[thirteen]

haven't yet found the old Boulder Report article I referred to before,but I came across another with an amusing line:

From here.http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2006/06/23/boulder-report-tour-de-springfield/

here's a link to it, i think: A Tale of Two Men

eta: actually, that story just references the one you were talking about, my bad... where is it???

I wrote weeks ago that Lance Armstrong had two sides--the public Armstrong you see on television and in his books, and a colder, spiteful one that is largely private. I wrote that if Armstrong lost this Tour de France that we might see that the private one was more his true self.

 

[jackwolf]

Could it be that Novitzky, knowing how stupid Armstrong is, set him up with Hamilton's co-operation? Would that be legal?

 

[theswordsman]

Worth noting that both Landis and Hamilton had destroyed their careers. Both stand to profit from their accusations or rather this is their knew method by which they can profit. Landis stand to gain from witness blower money if fraud is proven. Hamilton a book deal?

Hincapie might be another story, but we don't really know the exent of his testimony. I could say more about Hamilton prior to Postal, but was moded out. Doubtful that LA is the kingpin if proof beyond a reasonable doubt arises. He would be most likely just as much a victim as any of the others. We will have to wait to see what he brings forth at trial about those who shaped his career.

Yeah. I'd love to see documentation for Tyler's book deal - a news release from the publishing industry? Did you watch the main 60 Minutes video and the making of ones?

Floyd initiated a whistle blower suit, where he can only make money if the Government finds that Lance, Johan and the others named actually did commit fraud against the Government. The amount of the fraud would influence the amount he might make, IF the government decides to pursue it, or if he spends a bunch of money chasing it on his own.

Lance defenders need to stop thinking in terms of the good old days where he could lie and bully and make it work. If the restaurant did call Lance to let him know Tyler was there, the Feds probably caught it on a wire tap, or could quickly obtain phone records. They could get a security tape if it exists, get contact information for anyone who was there that night, through credit card receipts or reservations. They can have a guy with a sidearm questioning the owners, and drag them in to testify under oath before a grand jury. I'll say it again - the reign of terror is over. And if Hamilton's lawyer got the story straight, Lance could be talking to police about things that weren't part of the investigation last Saturday?

 

[dbrmuz]

here's a link to it, i think: A Tale of Two Men

eta: actually, that story just references the one you were talking about, my bad... where is it???

That quote is the one I was thinking of.Cheers.

EDIT:reading through the article you linked to,I think that's the article I had in mind.So my Boulder Report remark may very well be an error on my part.Opps.

 

[Benotti69]

Worth noting that both Landis and Hamilton had destroyed their careers. Both stand to profit from their accusations or rather this is their knew method by which they can profit. Landis stand to gain from witness blower money if fraud is proven. Hamilton a book deal?

Hincapie might be another story, but we don't really know the exent of his testimony. I could say more about Hamilton prior to Postal, but was moded out. Doubtful that LA is the kingpin if proof beyond a reasonable doubt arises. He would be most likely just as much a victim as any of the others. We will have to wait to see what he brings forth at trial about those who shaped his career.

what book deal????? Keep hearing about a book deal from the mouths of the Armstrong spinners, but no proof?

 

[blackcat]

LOL.

That is so funny.

Thanks.

Keep them coming

need a new one with the confrontation between Hamilton and Gunderson in Aspen

 

[Steel4Ever]

"However co-owner of the upmarket Cache Cache restaurant where the run-in happened and a friend of Armstrong, Jodi Larner, had a different version of events."

So...no reason why she would have a different version just to support her friend Pants, right? Cause Pants probably brings her business...and she herself might even be intimidated-from-afar by Pants and his power to effing destroy her business should she ever state what truly happened.

Just a thought.

 

[VeloCity]

Worth noting that both Landis and Hamilton had destroyed their careers.

How did they "destroy" their careers? They were both doing what just about every other cyclist - including Armstrong and the other big names - were doing at the time, but just happened to be among the unlucky few to get caught doing it.

 

[oldschoolnik]

did any of the Journo's ask Jodi Larner why, if the meeting was so cordial, they told hamilton he wa snot welcome there and had to leave?

Makes no sense. Protecting schoolyard bullies! Great work Casche Casche!

I wish I lived in Aspen so I could tell people not to patronize that place.

Edit: Sorry Hog alreadypointed this out in an earlier post. My bad.

I'm sure they texted Lance about TH's presence at CC.

 

[Boeing]

So much focus an spin control these so called attorneys failed to manage the statute of limitations. Time is what Lance had to work with.....simple math IMHO


Too big to fail? well maybe and maybe not but LA just gave them more time to to build a case

F Cancer and F Lance Armstrong

Where I come from some might say LA is now looking at an all white jury.

 

[altark123]

Question: If he has not been formally indicted or informed he is the target...

of a federal investigation, can he be charged with tampering? How can he tamper with someone who isn't technically part of an investigation against him necessarily. I guess I just don't know where the legal line falls. Has Lance been informed formally?

 

[DirtyWorks]

what book deal????? Keep hearing about a book deal from the mouths of the Armstrong spinners, but no proof?

It's a well-crafted response. Ordinary folks think 'book deal' means Harry Potter volume of sales.

A 'book deal' for a U.S. cyclist isn't going to make anyone rich. Maybe 100,000 potential customers total. So, a couple thousand sold in the absolute best case scenario. Wooo! Tyler could buy coffee for three of his friends at McDonald's with the royalties.

 

[oldschoolnik]

Story has gone... huge

Story has gone national and international. Google news is reprting 165+ news outlets covering the story - with about half leading with headline "Attorney contacts feds about contact with their client"

Google news listing of story (pick you perspective)
http://goo.gl/Dgisx

 

[VeloGirl]

of a federal investigation, can he be charged with tampering? How can he tamper with someone who isn't technically part of an investigation against him necessarily. I guess I just don't know where the legal line falls. Has Lance been informed formally?

I am certain a criminal lawyer could speak to this better, however what was said in one of the many articles on this is that if LA was to be indicted, TH would most likely be a witness for the prosecution and as a result, witness tampering charges could then be brought against LA.

Any evidence collected now and through out any trial can be used. Because the there are no illusions about LA's involvement in this case is, his lawyers really should no better. They should have told him to stay away from anyone giving any kind of testimony.

I say, pile it on. The more jackassery and ******baggery from his camp the better.

 

[VeloGirl]

I am certain a criminal lawyer could speak to this better, however what was said in one of the many articles on this is that if LA was to be indicted, TH would most likely be a witness for the prosecution and as a result, witness tampering charges could then be brought against LA.

Any evidence collected now and through out any trial can be used. Because the there are no illusions about LA's involvement in this case is, his lawyers really should no better. They should have told him to stay away from anyone giving any kind of testimony.

I say, pile it on. The more jackassery and ******baggery from his camp the better.

Really. D.ouchebaggery doesn't pass the censors. Disappointing.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

of a federal investigation, can he be charged with tampering? How can he tamper with someone who isn't technically part of an investigation against him necessarily. I guess I just don't know where the legal line falls. Has Lance been informed formally?

Asked and answered in other posts. One more thing to consider. If Armstrong has received a target letter, that makes his position regarding witness intimidation even more tenuous. His attorneys have met with the AUSA on the case, so Armstrong has to formally know he's in the Fed's crosshairs.

 

[Boeing]

Really. D.ouchebaggery doesn't pass the censors. Disappointing.

for what it is worth I think I was the last poster to get dbag in before the filter.

carry on

and like you it is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Armstrong posse