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[phlatties]

nothing like adding a team of lawyers to bolster the public view of your character, eh? interesting marketing direction

 

[D-Queued]

The quote deserves re-quoting.

After reading the quote below, my first thought was that Lance's legal team is like the guys who helped Charlie Sheen put on those Warlock Ustream shows. They tried to go after 60 Minutes, who pointed out the mistakes in the complaint. This certainly won't slow down the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, or New York Times - if anything they'll be way more enthusiastic in the pursuit.

One immediate problem with the 20-page motion is that it misidentifies some publications as recipients of government leaks in instances when those publications were not the first to publish the news. For example, on July 16, 2010, the Daily News was the first to report that three-time Tour de France champion Greg LeMond had received a grand jury subpoena; Keker's motion attributes the story to the Wall Street Journal, which, like the Daily News and other publications, based its reporting on the subpoena largely on statements made on the record by Greg LeMond's wife, Kathy LeMond.

That fact underlines the second problem with the motion: It implies that recipients of grand jury subpoenas and witnesses who have been interviewed by federal agents are not constitutionally entitled to disclose their involvement with a grand jury investigation, even if their government interviewers are not. They are.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/iteam/2011/07/19/2011-07-19_team_lance_fights_leaks.html

Dave.

 

[mightymac12]

I wonder what the odds are that this case becomes one of "reasonable doubt, for a reasonable price".

 

[BillytheKid]

Billy, a witness before the Grand Jury has compartmental knowledge of the investigation. A witness is not legally restrained from communicating his/her testimony outside the GJ room.

The leaks in the BALCO/Barry Bonds GJ testimonies were from the lawyer acting for one of the defendants, Victor Conte - founder of BALCO. Not through the prosecutors, investigators or staff. See my previous post

I was only arguing the point that accusations of leaks from GJ prosecutors are nothing new in response to Race Radio. I never said anything about witnesses.

Here's a blast from the past to prove my point:

http://www.nacdl.org/public.nsf/ChampionArticles/99mar03?OpenDocument

I agree with Race Radio that this will most likely go nowhere.

 

[frenchfry]

nothing like adding a team of lawyers to bolster the public view of your character, eh? interesting marketing direction

Indeed marketing appears to be the motivation of virtually everything Lancey-poo's "lawyers" do. It takes the clinic regulars about 5 minutes to totally pick apart these idiotic attempts to restore Armstrong's "reputation". Hopefully the media will use this as further incentive to dig deeper into the truth.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Radioshack is falling seriously behind in the team classification. Bad omen?

 

[Polish]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Radioshack is falling seriously behind in the team classification. Bad omen?

Agree with the RadioShack TeamGC Major Fail.
They are only a minute ahead of Team Sky yikes.

But hats-off to Bruyneel and Co for negotiating contract extensions with Nissan and Radioshack BEFORE the Tour started.

Genius, pure genius.

 

[powerste]

Here come da' I-Team...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/iteam/2011/07/19/2011-07-19_team_lance_fights_leaks.html

Flippin' sweet, Daily News!

 

[Polish]

Responding to the notice, Lou Ferrara, AP's managing editor for sports, said: "The AP has been aggressive in covering this important story. AP reporters will continue to pursue the truth. This action will not stop us."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-newswire-20110719,0,1470326.story

Lance's Motion was NOT filed to keep the press from their Tabloid Journalism.
Lance is accustomed to that. SSDD. SSDD. SSDD.

The Motion was filed to stop the Prosecution from any additional illegal leaking.
Putting the FEDs on notice.

That said, it will probably become tougher for the press to get juicy details about the so-called GJ Investigation.

 

[Velodude]

Lance's Motion was NOT filed to keep the press from their Tabloid Journalism.
Lance is accustomed to that. SSDD. SSDD. SSDD.

The Motion was filed to stop the Prosecution from any additional illegal leaking.
Putting the FEDs on notice.

That said, it will probably become tougher for the press to get juicy details about the so-called GJ Investigation.

Polish, you being an alleged Livestrong intern I would give credence to this comment

 

[sniper]

be honest, the only one guilty of character assasination is LA himself.
spreading lies about people who've told the truth.
assasinating characters in a way unknown to me and most of mankind.
but that's quite plain for everybody to see.

so how come posters on here still support that guy?

I mean, there is no need to hate him, really, but, no offense, if you're still defending the guy... get real

 

[D-Queued]

...

That said, it will probably become tougher for the press to get juicy details about the so-called GJ Investigation.

Alternately, more spouses will go on the record about GJ subpoenas and even more informaiton will be made public.

Nobody likes a bully.

Dave.

 

[powerste]

The Motion was filed to stop the Prosecution from any additional illegal leaking.

If only there was any actual evidence of that.

Interestingly enough, the last time Novi & Co. were accused of leaking, it was actually Conte's defense attorney who was the one doing said leaking...oops!

Of course, you could always just take Armstrong's attorneys' word as proof...

 

[D-Queued]

If only there was any actual evidence of that.

Of course, you could always just take Armstrong's attorneys' word as proof...

Everything Lance says is proof.

Dave.

 

[Stingray34]

Lance's 'motion'

Now that is excellence.

 

[Polish]

If only there was any actual evidence of that.

Interestingly enough, the last time Novi & Co. were accused of leaking, it was actually Conte's defense attorney who was the one doing said leaking...oops!

Of course, you could always just take Armstrong's attorneys' word as proof...

It would be up to the investigation to find the evidence.
That is what Lance and his lawyers are asking for.
An investigation.

Lying to a GJ is ILLEGAL.
Tampering with a GJ witness is ILLEGAL.
And leaking GJ info is ILLEGAL

This motion has merit.
The GJ process is an important part of the US Justice System.
Can not treat it with disrespect. Leaking is not right.

 

[D-Queued]

It would be up to the investigation to find the evidence.
That is what Lance and his lawyers are asking for.
An investigation.

Lying to a GJ is ILLEGAL.
Tampering with a GJ witness is ILLEGAL.
And leaking GJ info is ILLEGAL

This motion has merit.
The GJ process is an important part of the US Justice System.
Can not treat it with disrespect. Leaking is not right.

If anything related to Lance et co would be a waste of taxpayer dollars, this is it.

Dave.

 

[powerste]

It would be up to the investigation to find the evidence.
That is what Lance and his lawyers are asking for.
An investigation.

Is that "Investigation," "Witch Hunt," or "Waste of taxpayer dollars"? Ya never know which is which when the Pharmstrong camp is talking...

Lying to a GJ is ILLEGAL.

That's why Floyd, Tyler, et al are very likely telling the truth these days.

Tampering with a GJ witness is ILLEGAL.

I didn't know team Pharmstrong was asking for an investigation into the Cache Cache incident. Good for them!

And leaking GJ info is ILLEGAL

Not if you're a witness and the info in question is your own testimony.

This motion has merit.

See the Daily News piece quoted and linked upthread...it might have merit if it had its facts straight. At any rate, that's for a judge to decide, not us.

The GJ process is an important part of the US Justice System.
Can not treat it with disrespect. Leaking is not right.

Not only that, it can land you in jail. Just ask Victor Conte's (defense) lawyer.

Thanks for playing...

 

[MarkvW]

Lance's Motion was NOT filed to keep the press from their Tabloid Journalism.
Lance is accustomed to that. SSDD. SSDD. SSDD.

The Motion was filed to stop the Prosecution from any additional illegal leaking.
Putting the FEDs on notice.

That said, it will probably become tougher for the press to get juicy details about the so-called GJ Investigation.

Lance's motion was filed for PR. He asserts no evidence of an unlawful GJ leak. Witnesses are free to talk, and there's not a deity-sent-to-Hades thing that the megalomaniacal little narcissist can do about it.

Lance is hoping to get the Judge motivated to investigate, but without any legitimate leads to unlawful behavior, his motion is frivolous.

 

[Polish]

Lance's motion was filed for PR. He asserts no evidence of an unlawful GJ leak. Witnesses are free to talk, and there's not a deity-sent-to-Hades thing that the megalomaniacal little narcissist can do about it.

Lance is hoping to get the Judge motivated to investigate, but without any legitimate leads to unlawful behavior, his motion is frivolous.

The chance that John Keker would file a "frivolous" motion would be about the same as Lance launching a "frivolous" attack in the Alps during his heyday.

In other words - a pretty small chance lol.

 

[MacRoadie]

The chance that John Keker would file a "frivolous" motion would be about the same as Lance launching a "frivolous" attack in the Alps during his heyday.

In other words - a pretty small chance lol.

Yep, small chance indeed. Yikes!

Chevron Fights to Keep John Keker Out of Ecuador Racketeering Case

Mastro claims Keker violated a court order and Southern District rules by filing a brief related to the preliminary injunction motion after the court’s deadline, by filing a “frivilous application” to transfer the case to another judge and by making alleged “misrepresentations” to the court.

Misrepresentations? Eek!

 

[powerste]

The chance that John Keker would file a "frivolous" motion would be about the same as Lance launching a "frivolous" attack in the Alps during his heyday.

In other words - a pretty small chance lol.

The chance that a lawyer working for LA would do what LA tells him to do (as long as the paycheck clears) would be about the same as Tommy V. talking yellow by attacking break companions who just got taken out by a car.

In other words - hardly surprising at all lol.

 

[D-Queued]

The chance that John Keker would file a "frivolous" motion would be about the same as Lance launching a "frivolous" attack in the Alps during his heyday.

In other words - a pretty small chance lol.

Fail.

Thousands of results for Keker and frivolous.

Dave.

 

[Polish]

Yep, small chance indeed. Yikes!

Chevron Fights to Keep John Keker Out of Ecuador Racketeering Case



Misrepresentations? Eek!

C'mon MacRoadie, now you are just being contumacious.

Mr Keker was falsely accused of filing a frivolous application by Big Oil, not for filing a frivolous motion

Big Difference.

Like comparing the Alps to the Pyrenees

Also, I like the comments to the article you posted:


4:59 pm March 7, 2011
Atticus wrote:
What a compliment to John Keker! Chevroen and Gibson and Dunn fear Keker & Van Nest. Keker is a game changer. This motion will only make Keker and crew fight harder.


5:34 pm March 7, 2011
anon wrote:
No compliment if the statements in the motion are true. And if the motion is granted, how does he ever get admitted pro hac anywhere ever again? Huge downside for Keker.


7:30 pm March 7, 2011
Justiceman wrote:
I’m with Atticus. I think they’re shocked that Keker’s on board and are generally planning to use a scorched-earth offense.


8:40 am March 8, 2011
Sanjay wrote:
Keker is a game changer for sure. He will kick Chevron’s **** for sure!!!

 

[MacRoadie]

C'mon MacRoadie, now you are just being contumacious.

Mr Keker was falsely accused of filing a frivolous application by Big Oil, not for filing a frivolous motion

Big Difference.

Maybe you can take that dictionary you used to look up "contumacious" and see what the definition of "motion" is. You might just find something similar to this:

MOTION

A request asking a judge to issue a ruling or order on a legal matter.

An application to a court by one of the parties in a cause, or his counsel, in order to obtain some rule or order of court, which he thinks becomes necessary in the progress of the cause, or to get relieved in a summary manner, from some matter which would work injustice.

Keker seems to have a bad habit of being "falsely accused". No wonder Wonderboy hired him. Birds of a feather as they say...

 

[Magic Spanner]

Apologies if this has been raised previously but did anyone pick up on the description of Armstrong being "best known for his work in fighting cancer" in the latest statement from his legal team when calling for an investigation into the investigation?

This is a clear indication of the strategy the team is now to follow. Attempting to throw doubt on the integrity of the investigation whilst simultaneously questioning its relevance.

This is clearly nonesense as Armstrong is first and foremost known for his story of beating cancer and then WINNING THE TOUR DE FRANCE 7 TIMES. Recovering from cancer and then raining money, whilst a fantastic good news story, does not raise an individual to the status, fame, wealth and influence enjoyed by Armstrong.

I'm hoping that the general public in the USA see this the same way.