Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[AcademyCC]

Have you ever seen him in a situation that he didn't control? How does he react when he is forced to answer questions that he didn't approve beforehand? Remember the Kimmage press conference? What will the public think when they see this side of him, that have been hidden so carefully up until now - the rude bully, berating people who are only doing their job?

Before anymore. I Hope he gets nailed just providing why i think he may not.

I thought he handled kimmage quite well, anyone who didnt know the background to that press conference would thing kimmage was a plonker. He made a huge mistake saying lance was a returning cancer. It gave lance a great opportunity to use it as a shield.....again

 

[HL2037]

Guys stop taking the bait.... is it not obvious?

What, you don't think AcademyCC is sincere when he claims that he wants Lance brought to justice just as much as the next guy?

 

[AcademyCC]

Once the extent of Armstrong's fraud is exposed to more then just those that follow the sport then American public will have a fit.....but their anger will not be directed at the Feds but the guy pulled the scam that many fell for. Hell hath no fury like a groupie that finds out he/she was duped.

Your welcome to pretend that Landis and Tyler are the only evidence but we all know that is not the case.... are you guys going to start the Hincapie smear campaign soon? How about Jogi? Will he also be a target?

They have multiple witnesses of transportation of drugs across state lines and international boarders......do you really think rational people are going to ignore this and take to the streets to protect a myth that collapsed years ago? Wishful thinking

Im purely coming from the angle Lance will. I hope he gets what coming to him

 

[fatandfast]

Marion did not admit because she was going to crack, she did it as part of a plea deal. She did it to spend less time in prison. Lance will do the same

I can see this or him coming up w reasoning like the "clear". I didn't know I was using and it's somebody else's fault. After all he is just a country boy of a single mom, how would he know all that Flemish jabber.

 

[HL2037]

Before anymore. I Hope he gets nailed just providing why i think he may not.

I thought he handled kimmage quite well, anyone who didnt know the background to that press conference would thing kimmage was a plonker. He made a huge mistake saying lance was a returning cancer. It gave lance a great opportunity to use it as a shield.....again

The cancer shield is beginning to lose it's power, and anyway it won't work against a prosecuter.

 

[Benotti69]

Guys stop taking the bait.... is it not obvious?

BPC or Flippie????

 

[Benotti69]

I can see this or him coming up w reasoning like the "clear". I didn't know I was using and it's somebody else's fault. After all he is just a country boy of a single mom, how would he know all that Flemish jabber.

Oh dear if only Armstrong was the sole target, but there is the whole of the company Tailwind Sports and they (weisel & crew) are gonna throw Lance under the Bus saying he controlled it with Bruyneel and they were only following his/hogs orders.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Im purely coming from the angle Lance will. I hope he gets what coming to him

If, as some suggest Lance gets whats coming to him - he will not be the one coming at an angle.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Ok ill try-

6 samples - no 2nd samples to back it up. Can also throw **** at the lab testing them.

Dr Ferrari - can say the same things he always said - just used him for sports science training and he is the best in the world hence he charges a very high price. Wheres the evidence saying Ferrari def sold him drugs?

Hamilton/Landis- known liers. took money off people to pursue there false legal cases. No credibility at all.

Emma O'reilly - her word against his, will be able to through enough **** on her. Again no solid evidence apart from words. From what I can pick up shes had a horrible time since being involved with the Walsh book.

Frankie/Betsy - only two people their who have testified to hearing the hospital chats. Everyone else present deny's hearing it (although it is Armstrongs inner circle) Enough to discredit them.
Betsy is also down on numerous records saying she hates LAnce - stupid woman

Stephanie Mclvaine has created her own problem. Its not lances problem she lied, he had nothing to do with that. (Ofcourse he did, but thats what hell say)

Selling trek bikes - thats where corporate america will still protect him.

Did she say that?

I thought you claimed that you just finished reading From Lance to Landis - you might need to reread it.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Ok ill try-

6 samples - no 2nd samples to back it up. Can also throw **** at the lab testing them.

Dr Ferrari - can say the same things he always said - just used him for sports science training and he is the best in the world hence he charges a very high price. Wheres the evidence saying Ferrari def sold him drugs?

Hamilton/Landis- known liers. took money off people to pursue there false legal cases. No credibility at all.

Emma O'reilly - her word against his, will be able to through enough **** on her. Again no solid evidence apart from words. From what I can pick up shes had a horrible time since being involved with the Walsh book.

Frankie/Betsy - only two people their who have testified to hearing the hospital chats. Everyone else present deny's hearing it (although it is Armstrongs inner circle) Enough to discredit them.
Betsy is also down on numerous records saying she hates LAnce - stupid woman

Stephanie Mclvaine has created her own problem. Its not lances problem she lied, he had nothing to do with that. (Ofcourse he did, but thats what hell say)

Selling trek bikes - thats where corporate america will still protect him.

You list personal attack after personal attack despite the fact that people with nothing to gain are repeating similar stories. Do you just pretend the clue stick isn't beating you over the head over and over again?

This method of debunking the myth critics failed a long, long time ago.

 

[AcademyCC]

Did she say that?

I thought you claimed that you just finished reading From Lance to Landis - you might need to reread it.

Shes admitted that in a few different publications ive read. The guardian and Times being two i can think off the top of my head.

 

[Granville57]

Guys stop taking the bait.... is it not obvious?

But he's new to the sport. Is that any way to be cordial?

It was obvious from the very first post in the pro racing forum. I'm heading out now. By the time I return I expect Dr. M to have pummeled him into submission.

Allow me to introduce myself....

Ive always been a huge sportsfan but up until a the last tour de france have never followed cycling that closely. Everything has changed! The 2011 TDF blew my lights out.

Uh huh. Will you be staying long? Somehow I doubt it.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Shes admitted that in a few different publications ive read. The guardian and Times being two i can think off the top of my head.

She admitted what exactly?

 

[AcademyCC]

But he's new to the sport. Is that any way to be cordial?

It was obvious from the very first post in the pro racing forum. I'm heading out now. By the time I return I expect Dr. M to have pummeled him into submission.


Uh huh. Will you be staying long? Somehow I doubt it.

So is this forum for looking down on people that are new? or provide a different view point to yourself?

Thats a little bit sad to be honest. You have nothing better to say so you launch a personal attack?

 

[Polish]

I can very well imagine Lance having a major meltdown while being cross examined.

If Lance is the defendant, doubt he would be testifying or cross examined.
Witnesses like Floyd, Tyler, Betsy, and Greg will be facing the cross examining. On the stand under oath. Not Lance.

I am beginning to think that having Lance as a defendant is WISHFUL THINKING.
There I said it.
Like mentioning a no-hitter late in the 8th inning.
Hope I do not jinx anything yikes.

But how many extremely reputable authorities have tried to prove Lance quilty?
Mr Pound....Fail
Inspector Bordry....Fail
Mr Howman.....quack
French Gendarmes...fail
Interpol....fail
USADA....fail
WADA....fail
AFLD....fail
And the most prestigious toughest smartest of them all - US Feds.....fail?

At what point does WISHFUL THINKING get trumped by REALITY?
Maybe tomorrow?
Tuesday the 13th?
We will see. We will see.

 

[AcademyCC]

She admitted what exactly?

She said that she hated Armstrong

 

[DirtyWorks]

there is the whole of the company Tailwind Sports and they (weisel & crew) are gonna throw Lance under the Bus saying he controlled it with Bruyneel and they were only following his/hogs orders.

Will Weisel have a conversation with Wonderboy to do an Oliver North deal and tell him to take the fall now and it'll be all better once Wonderboy does some time?

Chances are very good Weisel and Co. flat out abandon Wonderboy. There's some heavy personal psychology for Wonderboy at work in that relationship. Having another father figure abandon him is about right.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

She said that she hated Armstrong

Did she really - then you can link the Guardian and Times pieces that you claim she said that so.

 

[thehog]

But he's new to the sport. Is that any way to be cordial?

It was obvious from the very first post in the pro racing forum. I'm heading out now. By the time I return I expect Dr. M to have pummeled him into submission.

Agreed. Will leave this one to Dr. M to bore the thread to tears with endless links.......

 

[Benotti69]

Ok ill try-

6 samples - no 2nd samples to back it up. Can also throw **** at the lab testing them.

Do the Feds need second samples if they have 6 in total??

Dr Ferrari - can say the same things he always said - just used him for sports science training and he is the best in the world hence he charges a very high price. Wheres the evidence saying Ferrari def sold him drugs?

Ferarri can ay what he want the evidence will be money. no one pays huge money in cycling for some training plans.

Hamilton/Landis- known liers. took money off people to pursue there false legal cases. No credibility at all.

They admitted to lying, which adds to their credibility . Digging a little by the feds will prove their testimonies to be full of credibility.

Emma O'reilly - her word against his, will be able to through enough **** on her. Again no solid evidence apart from words.

Her testimony will back what all the others have been saying. Why would she lie. Nothing to gain. No book deal. She liked Armstrong.

Frankie/Betsy - only two people their who have testified to hearing the hospital chats. Everyone else present deny's hearing it (although it is Armstrongs inner circle) Enough to discredit them.
Betsy is also down on numerous records saying she hates LAnce - stupid woman

When the Doctor/s who heard Armstrong admit to PED use come forward or testify under oath the Andreus will be villifed (already are in my eyes)

Stephanie Mclvaine has created her own problem. Its not lances problem she lied, he had nothing to do with that. (Ofcourse he did, but thats what hell say)

Again more lies? Another smoking gun. Her testimony under oath along with others, a smoking gun.

Selling trek bikes - thats where corporate america will still protect him.

I dont think so, when the money trail is followed from the sale of those bikes and leads to a Swiss bank account by a company owned by Ferarri or Ferarri's son etc or other PED source, corporate america will wash their hands so of the cheat and spin it to their advantage, which has the disadvantage of dropping said athlete further in the poo. I wonder how quickly Jone's sponsors ripped down her image from their shops, posters, websites etc

But on top we have Big George's evidence, Popo's evidence, money transactions, Tailwinds money trails, and probably things we have not thought of that the Feds have found.

 

[Benotti69]

Agreed. Will leave this one to Dr. M to bore the thread to tears with endless links.......

Ah c'mon its a good chance to present all the reasons, evidence and dirt that good ol boy Lance is going down. Rile up live$trong head office lackeys.

 

[AcademyCC]

Did she really - then you can link the Guardian and Times pieces that you claim she said that so.

couldnt find the guardian link but did get this one for you. Its along the same lines.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5508863

"Lance and I used to be good friends," Betsy Andreu told NPR. "I would go to his house and I would cook for him; I would talk to him on the phone about baby questions; I used to go out to dinner with Frankie and Lance and Kristin, often." Kristin was Armstrong's first wife. Betsy Andreu acknowledges that over the years, her friendship with Lance Armstrong soured. But she says that doesn't mean she would do something, in her words, so reprehensible as make up a story about the hospital room. "I'm sorry that it upsets him so much that I refuse to lie under oath. I was always going to tell the truth," she said.

 

[palmerq]

how come popovych is still allowed to race if they found him with drugs and so on... or is he still racing it's hard to notice him a lot of the time :S

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Agreed. Will leave this one to Dr. M to bore the thread to tears with endless links.......

The problem isn't asking for link - the problem is never getting them.

 

[thehog]

Ah c'mon its a good chance to present all the reasons, evidence and dirt that good ol boy Lance is going down. Rile up live$trong head office lackeys.

I know and I’m with you guys. But watch the pattern. Whenever someone is shown up in their defense of Lance or a new piece of info comes out on Lance you’ll get this style of play to push the older posts back. Its obvious tactic and we fall into it each and every time. 6 EPO Positives comes up time and time again.