Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[thehog]

The bottom line is that the JU crash certainly didn't help him the next day. And, that Jan never used it as an excuse, he just rode.

Lance was always a 3 month rider with an undeniable path to only race one GT a year, with the best doped team, with more 'captains' on his team than any other, without a sprinter, with the best TTT selection, and with undeniable 'protection'.

Funny how at the 2000 Olympics, where he knew he was pharmaceutically vulnerable he showed so poorly for such an awesome'ness' champion. Jan took the RR gold and ITT silver. Ouch, what happened to his unparalleled physiological and biomechanical traits? Ya real awesome. That must have been hard to swallow.

You'd think with all his physical attributes, cunning strategies and overall superiority that even at the age of 38 he'd crush the 'pack fill' riding beside him; or...his perceived advantages were outright fake.

NW

Agreed. He came out with the "back" excuse for the 2000 Games. Ullrich showed his supreme class on both those days. Armstrong never road the games again mind you.

Yes for all of Armstrong amazing philology it only seemed to kick in around July.

 

[Polish]

Yes for all of Armstrong amazing philology it only seemed to kick in around July.

Lets see you try to win the Tour 7 times in a row without Lazer Like Focus.

Oops, geez ChrisE - sorry again

 

[ChrisE]

Lets see you try to win the Tour 7 times in a row without Lazer Like Focus.

Oops, geez ChrisE - sorry again

No, responding to "the hog" is within limits. He is quite amusing, flopping back and forth about what he believes, making up BS, replying to his own posts saying how great his takes are. You must keep responding to him for his comedic value. It's similar to saying "sphincter say what?" and getting the reaction you crave over and over again. It's like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving. Yes, that is "the hog", not unlike the clinic whoopee cushion. Carry on.

NW on the other hand is just jerking your chain. No way somebody could be that naive.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Yeah, a 38 year old coming off of 3 years retirement that was still able to podium is real unimpressive. Have you checked out Sofia Vegara's wardrobe malfunction?

Lance's face looks like a p.o.'d little kid that is having a tantrum because things arent' going his way.

BTW Lance his holiness himself even said that 'the look' wasn't aimed at Jan but he simply turned around to see who was coming. You fans seem to need to embelish this , kinda like the 'heart and lungs larger than any human on earth before ' physiology of Mr Armstrong etc...

Ja , Jan always looks good.
Still does...

 

[ChrisE]

Lance's face looks like a p.o.'d little kid that is having a tantrum because things arent' going his way.

BTW Lance his holiness himself even said that 'the look' wasn't aimed at Jan but he simply turned around to see who was coming. You fans seem to need to embelish this , kinda like the 'heart and lungs larger than any human on earth before ' physiology of Mr Armstrong etc...

Ja , Jan always looks good.
Still does...

Hi mew. I always enjoy when we get to talk because I always learn something.

I posted that pick to show what JU looked like while getting spanked. I wrote nothing about my interpretation of why LA was turning around.

BOO!

Sorry.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Be strong. Be very strong. Especially when the bait is as obvious as it was.

Well you are thehog trolling with this post quoted.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Lance's face looks like a p.o.'d little kid that is having a tantrum because things arent' going his way.

BTW Lance his holiness himself even said that 'the look' wasn't aimed at Jan but he simply turned around to see who was coming. You fans seem to need to embelish this , kinda like the 'heart and lungs larger than any human on earth before ' physiology of Mr Armstrong etc...

Ja , Jan always looks good.
Still does...

You are a fan of Jan? Me as well.

He looked good in Pink.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Hi mew. I always enjoy when we get to talk because I always learn something.

I posted that pick to show what JU looked like while getting spanked. I wrote nothing about my interpretation of why LA was turning around.

BOO!

Sorry.

Haha love the look on Jan's face. Pure concentration.
Thanks for posting the pic.

You must be confused...not sure what the rest of your conversation is about....

EEK!

Sorry.
Have a nice day. Where's Glenn_ darn it...

 

[Semper Fidelis]

No, responding to "the hog" is within limits. He is quite amusing, flopping back and forth about what he believes, making up BS, replying to his own posts saying how great his takes are. You must keep responding to him for his comedic value. It's similar to saying "sphincter say what?" and getting the reaction you crave over and over again. It's like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving. Yes, that is "the hog", not unlike the clinic whoopee cushion. Carry on.

NW on the other hand is just jerking your chain. No way somebody could be that naive.

I thought I was the only person who noted him reply posting to Hogsself. I do not find many flopping by him just the predictions that make no "CENTS"!...

Armstrong better hope he is not perpwalking this coming Tuesday because I have an appointment at the Texas Workforce Commision and would realy hate to missOUT.

 

[ChrisE]

Haha love the look on Jan's face. Pure concentration.
Thanks for posting the pic.

LOL pure concentration? How does one go about concentrating on getting one's azz kicked?

Stop trolling me, mew.

 

[ChrisE]

I thought I was the only person who noted him reply posting to Hogsself. I do not find many flopping by him just the predictions that make no "CENTS"!...
:

You saw that the other day, replying to his post and patting himself on the back?

WTH? Do you have a diagnosis for that?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

LOL pure concentration? How does one go about concentrating on getting one's azz kicked?

Stop trolling me, mew.

Good thing LA's brakes were not rubbing that day.
Hell LA came up to the words for GAGA's pokerface on that stage. (something else he will not get credit for!)

Of course it was all drug fuel so not worth a rats azz but still ....DAlook and all....

 

[patricknd]

You saw that the other day, replying to his post and patting himself on the back?

WTH? Do you have a diagnosis for that?

He does that a lot. Multiple personality disorder is no laughing matter ? !?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

You saw that the other day, replying to his post and patting himself on the back?

WTH? Do you have a diagnosis for that?

SwineFlu man I thought you watch the NEWS? Came over from South of the Border.

Hog's gona do what the Hog's gona do. "Give da Flu"

 

[ChrisE]

I learned what a Jwoww is tonight.

What do you guys think will happen Tuesday? I vote for crickets chirping.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I learned what a Jwoww is tonight.

What do you guys think will happen Tuesday? I vote for crickets chirping.

I vote for Hogs snorting

 

[patricknd]

I vote for Hogs snorting

Grand jury indicments, course I'm not sure who they're against, but their will damn sure be grand jury indictments somewhere this Tuesday.

 

[Martin318is]

Stupid personal stuff ends right now.

 

[Neworld]

BTW Lance his holiness himself even said that 'the look' wasn't aimed at Jan but he simply turned around to see who was coming. You fans seem to need to embelish this , kinda like the 'heart and lungs larger than any human on earth before ' physiology of Mr Armstrong etc...
...

I assume you know that 'the look' has been around for decades before Lanciepants. Certain continental fans seem to think that cycling starting in 1999 and Lance owns the look. He don't.

No crushing anyone at 38 Polish.

NW

 

[MarkvW]

Bored of the intense discussion about Lance's facial expressions, personal insults, and the eternally unresolvable question of which dopers dope "more?"? Here are some questions to consider:

1. Assume that the investigation up until now has encompassed Lance's behavior and maybe even made Lance a target. What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Lance is STILL a subject of investigation? What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Michael Ball is still a subject of investigation?

2. What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Lance hasn't already told the full and truthful story of his doping to the grand jury under a grant of immunity?

3. We've now heard Floyd and Tyler fully admit to doping throughout their Postie careers? What indication is there that anybody is going to "take away" their pro results in that time frame? They've snitched off Lance too. What indication is there that any sporting body is going to do anything about Lance's doping?

 

[MacRoadie]

Bored of the intense discussion about Lance's facial expressions, personal insults, and the eternally unresolvable question of which dopers dope "more?"? Here are some questions to consider:

1. Assume that the investigation up until now has encompassed Lance's behavior and maybe even made Lance a target. What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Lance is STILL a subject of investigation? What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Michael Ball is still a subject of investigation?

2. What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Lance hasn't already told the full and truthful story of his doping to the grand jury under a grant of immunity?

3. We've now heard Floyd and Tyler fully admit to doping throughout their Postie careers? What indication is there that anybody is going to "take away" their pro results in that time frame? They've snitched off Lance too. What indication is there that any sporting body is going to do anything about Lance's doping?

Haven't those questions already been answered for you repeatedly and ad nauseum? There are several posters that have engaged you repeatedly on those very questions, yet you refuse to listen to them. Question #1 has been flogged to death, dug up, and then flogged some more. Too many times to count.

You are the one that repeatedly falls back on the "we don't know anything" card and the "it could easily go either way" response when confronted by theories based on facts (not assumptions as you now seem eager to pursue).

Frankly, the facial expression debate is far more entertaining than you trying yet another tact in your crusade to convince people that Armstrong is free and clear (although you'll never admit to that agenda).

 

[Race Radio]

Bored of the intense discussion about Lance's facial expressions, personal insults, and the eternally unresolvable question of which dopers dope "more?"? Here are some questions to consider:

1. Assume that the investigation up until now has encompassed Lance's behavior and maybe even made Lance a target. What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Lance is STILL a subject of investigation? What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Michael Ball is still a subject of investigation?

2. What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Lance hasn't already told the full and truthful story of his doping to the grand jury under a grant of immunity?

3. We've now heard Floyd and Tyler fully admit to doping throughout their Postie careers? What indication is there that anybody is going to "take away" their pro results in that time frame? They've snitched off Lance too. What indication is there that any sporting body is going to do anything about Lance's doping?

This has been covered, many times in fact

If Lance is not a target why did he go so far out of his way to harass witnesses? Perhaps it is just his nature and he has little to actually worry about.

Armstrong claims that he has not received a target letter. If he had talked to the GJ he would have received one. Perhaps he is lying

USADA has said they are working with the Feds on the case, exchanging information, making introductions to foreign sources and agencies. I expect there will be a non-analytic positive case filed by USADA, but that could only cover 2005 and later.

Given past Fed actions it is not unreasonable to assume that giving up titles would be part of any plea deal....but we are a long way to go from that.

 

[ChrisE]

Yeah, the debate about facial expression and "who doped more", sprinkled with personal insults is much more fun. We can save all that other stuff for later when somebody is indicted or there is real news.

Too bad the personal insult part is weeded out.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Yes, until the indictments come down and the process of plea bargain/trial etc starts to happen, we need to keep some sort of conversation going.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Bored of the intense discussion about Lance's facial expressions, personal insults, and the eternally unresolvable question of which dopers dope "more?"? Here are some questions to consider:

O goody - you're bored and want to take the discussion in a new and exciting direction and cover topics that haven't already been covered.

I can't wait to read it.......

1. Assume that the investigation up until now has encompassed Lance's behavior and maybe even made Lance a target. What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Lance is STILL a subject of investigation? What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Michael Ball is still a subject of investigation?

2. What evidence or reasoning supports the inference that Lance hasn't already told the full and truthful story of his doping to the grand jury under a grant of immunity?

3. We've now heard Floyd and Tyler fully admit to doping throughout their Postie careers? What indication is there that anybody is going to "take away" their pro results in that time frame? They've snitched off Lance too. What indication is there that any sporting body is going to do anything about Lance's doping?

Ah, go back about 50 pages and read from there as it has already been covered..