Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[krebs303]

May 19, 2011 6:31 PM



Ex-Teammate: I saw Lance Armstrong use EPO

 

[pedaling squares]

New thread for this here. There is no room for self-congratulatory hog-patting in that thread.

 

[MarkvW]

Whoa it's Tyler Hamilton going after Armstrong on CBS.

Yeah, CBS is touting it on their website.

 

[MacRoadie]

New thread for this here. There is no room for self-congraulatory hog-patting in that thread.

Hog-patting should ALWAYS be done in the privacy of one's own home...

 

[pedaling squares]

Explains the recent UCI posturing.

Told ya 8 days ago on this one.

If you told us 8 days ago (link???), why does RR's news suddenly explain the recent UCI posturing?

 

[thehog]

If you told us 8 days ago (link???), why does RR's news suddenly explain the recent UCI posturing?

See post 1356. I heard it through the vine & proved true. I understand he wanted to come clean long ago but the Feds wanted time to collect more evidence.

 

[pedaling squares]

Good enough for me. Nice call.

 

[Berzin]

Good call, Hog.

 

[Oldman]

You need to know the charge before you can determine the relevance of the "old stuff."

Why acknowledge the "old stuff" before we know what the charges are?

KaBOOM! That's a bucket of old stuff exploding all over Lance on 60 minutes. It doesn't smell good.

 

[D-Queued]

KaBOOM! That's a bucket of old stuff exploding all over Lance on 60 minutes. It doesn't smell good.

I love the smell of Napalm in the morning...

Victory!

Dave.

 

[Oldman]

I love the smell of Napalm in the morning...

Victory!

Dave.

Unfortunately like with Napalm alot of innocent bystanders are going to get burned. It's good to get it done but it's hard to cheer the outcome.

 

[mewmewmew13]

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Whoa it's Tyler Hamilton going after Armstrong on CBS.
4 minutes ago

Krebs I just love your post!
and my heart is pounding just watching the news and the truth come out.

the dam is bursting alright...

 

[mewmewmew13]

..yes, thanks hog and rr

 

[JRTinMA]

See post 1356. I heard it through the vine & proved true. I understand he wanted to come clean long ago but the Feds wanted time to collect more evidence.

Seems you got it right, well done hog.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

60 Minutes will be airing a in depth investigation into Armstrong this weekend. There will also be something on the CBS evening news tonight.

All new info, not a rehash of old stuff.

WoW...you broke it here first! errrrrrrr psssst I got the same

 

[Semper Fidelis]

See post 1356. I heard it through the vine & proved true. I understand he wanted to come clean long ago but the Feds wanted time to collect more evidence.

Ummm I had the same info but did you see ME coming in here to be Boss Hog? NO .............


How about you give the credit to the actual source?????????????? There is someone who DOES have the GOODS ....it is not YOU and you know it.

YUP I get the same info ....but theHOG thinks he can take the credit ________ + a NEGATIVE 00 on that.

 

[pedaling squares]

Alright, all you wannabe Deep Throats have to learn that nobody really cares to read about who knew what and when. We only discuss one person in this thread. Open new threads to discuss yourselves.

 

[hughmoore]

Another day has passed and we still wait for the prosecution,

Reasons given are:


"There waiting to after the superbowl"
" There waiting until Sammy is finalised"
"They are waiting for Bin Laden to be captured"
"They are waiting for the first moon landing"
"They are waiting for Trump to get some new hair"
They are waiting for "Hope to Ride Again"

and more delays!

Waiting for Lance to appear at ToC
Waiting for 60 minutes
Waiting for Tylers book to come out.

Waiting for the smoking gun!!!!


Looking forward to this coming to court.


Regards


Hugh

 

[Anonymous]

Another day has passed and we still wait for the prosecution,

Reasons given are:


"There waiting to after the superbowl"
" There waiting until Sammy is finalised"
"They are waiting for Bin Laden to be captured"
"They are waiting for the first moon landing"
"They are waiting for Trump to get some new hair"
They are waiting for "Hope to Ride Again"

and more delays!

Waiting for Lance to appear at ToC
Waiting for 60 minutes
Waiting for Tylers book to come out.

Waiting for the smoking gun!!!!


Looking forward to this coming to court.


Regards


Hugh

Did you ever consider that the longer this goes, the more evidence they are accumulating? Don't know if you realize this, but that could be bad for the one balled wonder.

 

[Barracuda]

Another day has passed and we still wait for the prosecution,

Reasons given are:


"There waiting to after the superbowl"
" There waiting until Sammy is finalised"
"They are waiting for Bin Laden to be captured"
"They are waiting for the first moon landing"
"They are waiting for Trump to get some new hair"
They are waiting for "Hope to Ride Again"

and more delays!

Waiting for Lance to appear at ToC
Waiting for 60 minutes
Waiting for Tylers book to come out.

Waiting for the smoking gun!!!!


Looking forward to this coming to court.


Regards


Hugh

All of the above +

- waiting for the polar ice cap to freeze over
- waiting for the oprah show to air
- waiting for final pictorial evidence of the yeti
- peace in the middle east
- looking for one of the elusive USPS Trek bikes sold on ebay !!!!! (stay tuned for the smoking gun on this one, we may have a lead.)

 

[yourwelcome]

Hate to rain on the parade, but Hamilton of all people... jeez. Good luck to him on his 'emotional journey of self discovery' complete with folksy mom and pop words of wisdom, and everything he said is more likely to be true than not, but there's no getting away from the fact that his background is a gift to Fabiani et al.

Still waiting for a real bomb to drop. How long can it take the FDA? One more year? Two? Meantime another generation of alpha males is doping their way to money and fame.

 

[Kennf1]

Hate to rain on the parade, but Hamilton of all people... jeez. Good luck to him on his 'emotional journey of self discovery' complete with folksy mom and pop words of wisdom, and everything he said is more likely to be true than not, but there's no getting away from the fact that his background is a gift to Fabiani et al.

Still waiting for a real bomb to drop. How long can it take the FDA? One more year? Two? Meantime another generation of alpha males is doping their way to money and fame.

I seem to recall that's exactly what people said about Floyd.

 

[cprior]

What is the current headcount of "proven" liars, according to the ArmstRRRonk camp?

I was just about to post on my fb wall "After Floyd Landis, Frankie Andreau, Simeoni,..."
Then I realized I will most certainly miss a couple of guys to correctly finish (tongue-in-cheek) with
"...now his former team colleague Tyler Hamilton is being discredited by Lance Armstrong and his team of spin doctors and lawyers."

Could the Clinic-crowd please help me to fill the dots?

 

[kurtinsc]

Of course not. He is the perfect example of a psychopath. They plan their things for long, feel they are above everybody else. But this arrogant behaviour brings him down: Making everybody an enemy (exception, those he paid), making a stupid comeback because of thinking being untouchable.

One thing that bothers me is when people try to label Lance as a psychopath or sociopath. And it's a silly thing to be bothered about as it's essentially meaningless.. but having three therapists/psychiatrists in the family (including my wife) and having to sit around the table listening to their armchair discussions, I've had to educate myself on the subject of mental illness to some degree.

He's not a sociopath/psychopath (anti-social personality disorder). He doesn't get in physical fights. He does plan ahead. He hasn't had issues with sustaining consistent work. He's not reckless about his own safety.

He doesn't fit the DSM definition for the disorder. Based on public knowledge of his behaviors, he seems to fit Narcissistic personality disorder.

What does the DSM say about that?

1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance... check.
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love... not all of them... but several of these fit.
3. Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)... not sure... hard to tell from public information.
4. Requires excessive admiration... check.
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations... check.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends... if the stories are true this is a big YES.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others... not 100% sure but seems to be an accurate portrayal.
8. Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her... more the latter then the former, but yep.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes... ya think?


Obviously being a narcissist doesn't sound as menacing as being a psycopath or sociopath. But it's what he is.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

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He's not a sociopath/psychopath (anti-social personality disorder). He doesn't get in physical fights. He does plan ahead. He hasn't had issues with sustaining consistent work. He's not reckless about his own safety.

You might want a second opinion.

Wiith a finger that came inches from Higgins’ face, Armstrong, according to Higgins, let loose a series of threats that concluded with the time-worn threat of “You’ll never work at this bar again.”