Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[Dr. Maserati]

Doktor Mabuserati, your usual interrogation game starts and ends right here.

I am not as obsessed as you when it comes to Lance, clinic, speaking by links, collecting links, archieving and collecting forumposts, playing boring endless interrogation games and talking around the hot mash while hardly delivering something called "opinion".
And I won't waste one single second to look for those links.

My memory is enough, digging this out makes no sense and is, first of all, not even worth the posts or posters. Those posts and topics are there, I know it, you know it and everyone who is not new to here knows that.

Ende

btw, I think you are one of those haters that still has something like taste and a tolerable level, and I don't remember you ever crossing the line of good taste, which usually means disgusting and no more healthy posts and behavior.
I guess you don't feel adressed anyway, and you know what/who I am really talking about. But I know. You have to keep up the reputation of this serious and beautiful place here.

Its not an interrogation - I merely asked you to back up what you said or name the posters.

As I suspected, you couldn't back up what you claimed - and I have no interest in responding to your usual personal remarks.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Its not an interrogation - I merely asked you to back up what you said or name the posters.

As I suspected, you couldn't back up what you claimed - and I have no interest in responding to your usual personal remarks.

I didn't back it up. Thats a difference.
Whatever. Everybody knows - you included.
Go, play with yourself.

Or just have a look at your great archieve and make a best of "most disgusting Anti Lance posts involing his kids and family". It would make me and others sick again.
You seem to be hard man and it should be no problem for you to do your favorite job - hardest part is that it would be something like pro-Lance and anti-haters. So I guess you would rather cut your finger off instead of doing that.

Should be easy to find in those thousands of disgusting posts by thehog, benotti69, berzin, d-cute......just to give you a hint.
Those are the clinic members coming to my mind first, when its about uglyness and disgusting posts.

Good luck, but actually you won't even need that.

 

[flicker]

Yellow jersey just finished, 15 minutes+ back. Easy race for the Europeans!

 

[Anonymous]

I think the predominate feeling is sorrow for Kristen and his children. Imagine how you would feel to be related to or had been married to the biggest fraud in the history of sport...dang.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I didn't back it up. Thats a difference.
Whatever. Everybody knows - you included.
Go, play with yourself.

Or just have a look at your great archieve and make a best of "most disgusting Anti Lance posts involing his kids and family". It would make me and others sick again.
You seem to be hard man and it should be no problem for you to do your favorite job - hardest part is that it would be something like pro-Lance and anti-haters. So I guess you would rather cut your finger off instead of doing that.

Should be easy to find in those thousands of disgusting posts by thehog, benotti69, berzin, d-cute......just to give you a hint.
Those are the clinic members coming to my mind first, when its about uglyness and disgusting posts.

Good luck, but actually you won't even need that.

You made the claim - so it is you that needs to back it up.

If you're saying its easy to find then it would probably take less time than it took you to write the ad hominen and irrelevant post.

 

[Cobblestoned]

You made the claim - so it is you that needs to back it up.

If you're saying its easy to find then it would probably take less time than it took you to write the ad hominen and irrelevant post.

Not one single second. I repeat....not one single second.
My post is as irrelevant as your strange tries to deny the obvious and well-known.

 

[Martin318is]

Okay folks - pull it back into line.

None of the last 20+ are on topic. I will probably delete them when I get a chance. Any off topic post after this warning will definitely get deleted.

 

[MarkvW]

Not one single second. I repeat....not one single second.
My post is as irrelevant as your strange tries to deny the obvious and well-known.

Maserati has not brought spouse or kids into the discussion without respect, as far as I've seen. Your post is just a slur insofar as he is concerned on that point.

So what about the Lance hate? Doesn't everybody want Jan Ullrich to be the TRUE winner of the TDFs he contested with Lance?

 

[Berzin]

So what about the Lance hate? Doesn't everybody want Jan Ullrich to be the TRUE winner of the TDFs he contested with Lance?

Another attempt to obfuscate the true intentions of people who want to see the fraud exposed.

This isn't about Jan vs. Lance, Me vs. You or King Kong vs. Godzilla.

This is about Armstrong and the systematic cheating he devoted himself to to win the Tour seven times.

Nothing will be relevant to this topic until the charges are filed. So keep bloviating and chasing windmills.

Your attempts to target everyone except the guilty parties has worn thin a long time ago.

I'll see you when the charges are made public.

 

[MarkvW]

Another attempt to obfuscate the true intentions of people who want to see the fraud exposed.

This isn't about Jan vs. Lance, Me vs. You or King Kong vs. Godzilla.

This is about Armstrong and the systematic cheating he devoted himself to to win the Tour seven times.

Nothing will be relevant to this topic until the charges are filed. So keep bloviating and chasing windmills.

Your attempts to target everyone except the guilty parties has worn thin a long time ago.

I'll see you when the charges are made public.

I'm not targeting anyone! I'm just making a joke.

How can you say Armstrong is guilty? Guilty of what crime? You don't even know IF he will be charged, or what he will be charged with, or whether any charges will relate to systematic doping. Guilt requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a crime, and we have no idea what crime he will be charged with and what evidence will support the charges. You are just expressing a HOPE that Armstrong will be criminally punished.

Of course I target everyone! Cycling is a filthy cessspool. If Armstrong hadn't won the tour another doper or suspected doper would have. Take away Armstrong's results and no integrity would be restored--just another layer would be peeled off a rotten onion.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I'm not targeting anyone! I'm just making a joke.

How can you say Armstrong is guilty? Guilty of what crime? You don't even know IF he will be charged, or what he will be charged with, or whether any charges will relate to systematic doping. Guilt requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a crime, and we have no idea what crime he will be charged with and what evidence will support the charges. You are just expressing a HOPE that Armstrong will be criminally punished.

Of course I target everyone! Cycling is a filthy cessspool. If Armstrong hadn't won the tour another doper or suspected doper would have. Take away Armstrong's results and no integrity would be restored--just another layer would be peeled off a rotten onion.

"Guilt requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a crime".....that would be correct if this were a Court of Law.

I am also intrigued in how you say "or suspected doper" would have won - surely you should be giving them the benefit of being innocent until they are "proven guilty" - as you appear to expect others to do?

 

[MarkvW]

Another attempt to obfuscate the true intentions of people who want to see the fraud exposed.

This isn't about Jan vs. Lance, Me vs. You or King Kong vs. Godzilla.

This is about Armstrong and the systematic cheating he devoted himself to to win the Tour seven times.

Nothing will be relevant to this topic until the charges are filed. So keep bloviating and chasing windmills.

Your attempts to target everyone except the guilty parties has worn thin a long time ago.

I'll see you when the charges are made public.

"Guilt requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a crime".....that would be correct if this were a Court of Law.

I am also intrigued in how you say "or suspected doper" would have won - surely you should be giving them the benefit of being innocent until they are "proven guilty" - as you appear to expect others to do?

A person can be a dirty doping dog and at the same time can be not guilty of all doping offenses. I've got no problem with that.

I think it can fairly be said that the contenders--as a group--were a dirty bunch. I don't need to fine-tune just who was using and who wasn't. It's over. It's history. "Dopers and suspected dopers" includes everyone in that dirty bunch.

 

[Race Radio]

60 Minutes will be airing a in depth investigation into Armstrong this weekend. There will also be something on the CBS evening news tonight.

All new info, not a rehash of old stuff.

 

[Oldman]

60 Minutes will be airing a in depth investigation into Armstrong this weekend. There will also be something on the CBS evening news tonight.

All new info, not a rehash of old stuff.

Hey RR, nice to see something new. Markv isn't acknowledging even old stuff that's hard to refute. He'll have to find the Fox "no spin" version of CBS' broadcast. Does Fabiani own a news outlet yet?

 

[MarkvW]

Hey RR, nice to see something new. Markv isn't acknowledging even old stuff that's hard to refute. He'll have to find the Fox "no spin" version of CBS' broadcast. Does Fabiani own a news outlet yet?

You need to know the charge before you can determine the relevance of the "old stuff."

Why acknowledge the "old stuff" before we know what the charges are?

 

[MarkvW]

Hey RR, nice to see something new. Markv isn't acknowledging even old stuff that's hard to refute. He'll have to find the Fox "no spin" version of CBS' broadcast. Does Fabiani own a news outlet yet?

Now you've gone too far! Fox News? Oh, the inhumanity! Anything but that!

 

[Dr. Maserati]

A person can be a dirty doping dog and at the same time can be not guilty of all doping offenses. I've got no problem with that.

I think it can fairly be said that the contenders--as a group--were a dirty bunch. I don't need to fine-tune just who was using and who wasn't. It's over. It's history. "Dopers and suspected dopers" includes everyone in that dirty bunch.

You do realize that many in "that dirty bunch" are still riding?

Also - for someone who appears to advocate 'due process' you appear to ignore that the 'Statute of Limitations' on doping is 8 years.

 

[thehog]

60 Minutes will be airing a in depth investigation into Armstrong this weekend. There will also be something on the CBS evening news tonight.

All new info, not a rehash of old stuff.

Explains the recent UCI posturing.

 

[krebs303]

Whoa it's Tyler Hamilton going after Armstrong on CBS.

 

[krebs303]

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[MacRoadie]

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The term I heard used earlier today is "sh#t storm", but now "sh#t typhoon" is probably more like it...

 

[thehog]

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Holy **** this is big.
3 minutes ago
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Whoa it's Tyler Hamilton going after Armstrong on CBS.
4 minutes ago

Told ya 8 days ago on this one.

 

[goggalor]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504803_162-20064406-10391709.html

 

[pedaling squares]

I'll open a new thread for the Hamilton allegations, it's big enough to justify that.

 

[thehog]

Three letters.....


UCI. They won't last this one.

& some weird drugs deals. Bloody hell don't sell the good stuff to cyclists sell it to others sportspersons.

& Tyler H. Thank-you. He's no Floyd but he he about to admit once he gets the clearance to do so. Then he'll go away again. To get much much better.

Thanks Hog.