Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[Neworld]

Followed by a latex dip?

Followed by racing to a mountain top and then suddenly disappearing into a trailer to get a dilutional IV and EPO tampering chemicals.

NW

 

[Stingray34]

"....Listen, if I didn’t enjoy the training, the racing, being here, I wouldn’t do it. Nobody’s paying me to come here. Nobody is saying, ‘You have to go there.’ This is something I choose to do.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...ys-bicycling/2011/10/19/gIQA7ZepyL_story.html

Really?

Yeah, going by his recent revisionism on Comeback 2.0, Lance doesn't have many friends in cycling left anymore, so he's seeking re-acceptance with the lame-a$$ triathlon crowd. At some point, he may end up having to pay them.

 

[Race Radio]

"....Listen, if I didn’t enjoy the training, the racing, being here, I wouldn’t do it. Nobody’s paying me to come here. Nobody is saying, ‘You have to go there.’ This is something I choose to do.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...ys-bicycling/2011/10/19/gIQA7ZepyL_story.html

Really?

Comedy gold.....Nike, Oakely, Giro, Trek, SRAM, Honey Stinger, none of them pay him to be in the public eye?

When RadioShack announced their deal with Wonderboy they specifically said that

Lance Armstrong will compete for Team RadioShack as a cyclist, runner and triathlete in events around the world,

The Tri Geeks are his last hope for a revenue stream

 

[Animal]

Anyone have any links to those animations with Armstrong and Leipheimer?

 

[Nick777]

Comedy gold.....Nike, Oakely, Giro, Trek, SRAM, Honey Stinger, none of them pay him to be in the public eye?

When RadioShack announced their deal with Wonderboy they specifically said that

The Tri Geeks are his last hope for a revenue stream

I was in the market for a TT bike recently, and Lance is the reason I didn't buy a Trek.

There are plenty of Triathletes that still love him though. Go to slowtwitch forums if you want a laugh.

 

[euanli]

I was in a local sports shop recently getting some running shorts. There was a massive Livestrong section. Though quite a lot of it were discounted.

 

[Berzin]

I was in a local sports shop recently getting some running shorts. There was a massive Livestrong section. Though quite a lot of it were discounted.

What store was this?

From what I understand, Nike NEVER lets chain retail stores discount any Livestrong merchandise.

 

[skippy]

Took me 10 mins to load the " post comment" and over an hour to read pages 736 to 741 because of the lousy B/band in this area of Austria !

Can Mods set up a " kindergarten playground for the "handbag team" "so that people like myself can find the " gritty" stuff " like the "washington post" link w/out being in the middle of childish squabbles about " Who said what about whom" ?
Oh yes i also saw that LA being in Kona didn't make it to the Steve Jobs funeral to which i also WAS Not invited !

Snow to 500m and 0 degrees has kept me indoors this AM but i prefer adult entertainment that is why i am not watching " bill & ben" on TV !

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Did you think Lance will call this interview on 60 Minutes "a vicious hit & run job"?

The production team at the venerable TV newsmagazine show "60 Minutes" have posted a tweet revealing that Walter Isaacson, the historian and biographer who has written Jobs' authorized account of his life, will be on the show Sunday night to discuss the book, simply entitled Steve Jobs, and the man behind it. Steve Kroft will be handling the interview, providing the first detailed insight into the biography, which hits stores Monday.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/11/10/19/authorized.jobs.bio.to.be.released.monday/#ixzz1bHy4wMI5

I still do not get why it is relevant that LA was not invited to Steve Jobs memorial service? Were they tight? It seems to be poor taste to talk about who was not invited etc.

I really did not know Steve Jobs personaly, but I do thank Apple for the reemergence into the real world with their Macbooks / Ipod’s / Iphone’s/Ipads.

From what I knew (television coverage) LA was a blackberry(RIM) person. Maybe that is why they left him off the invitation list?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

What store was this?

From what I understand, Nike NEVER lets chain retail stores discount any Livestrong merchandise.

From what I read and understood euanli did not say it was a chain retail store (maybe that does not make a difference). He posted something like "local sports shop". The only time I have seen the stuff was at running specific shops.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Yeah, going by his recent revisionism on Comeback 2.0, Lance doesn't have many friends in cycling left anymore, so he's seeking re-acceptance with the lame-a$$ triathlon crowd. At some point, he may end up having to pay them.

I have to agree with you on that. I checked out the slowtwitch forums and in my opinion they are a very delusional group. Some serious masters doing some serious amounts of PED's in the triathlon crowds ,,,in my opinion.

This may end up being LA's thing to do but based on his Marathon time previously posted he is going to suck a$$ at the ironman. BTW he should have to qualify the same as anyone else that goes to Kona.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Lance could not attend due to "personal reasons"
It's a mankini thing.You understand that, don't you?

You talking about him running around Hawaii with his shirt off?

 

[Francois the Postman]

Can Mods set up a " kindergarten playground for the "handbag team" "so that people like myself can find the " gritty" stuff " like the "washington post" link w/out being in the middle of childish squabbles about " Who said what about whom" ?

I created a stickied links-only thread at the top that should answer your prayers to some extent.

 

[thehog]

I still do not get why it is relevant that LA was not invited to Steve Jobs memorial service? Were they tight? It seems to be poor taste to talk about who was not invited etc.

I really did not know Steve Jobs personaly, but I do thank Apple for the reemergence into the real world with their Macbooks / Ipod’s / Iphone’s/Ipads.

From what I knew (television coverage) LA was a blackberry(RIM) person. Maybe that is why they left him off the invitation list?

I think you missed the reference to Lance and his obituary on Steve Jobs. Lance was writing as though they were long lost brothers re-united under the common good to find a cure. He used the word “friend” a lot. The forum posts of course were not to disrespect Steve Jobs but a swipe a Lance for cashing in on the public morning of Mr. Jobs.

Agree he has always used a Blackberry – his Twitter entries still state that they’re posted from a Blackberry but Armstrong in his obituary was eluding that he was using an iPhone. Shameless.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I think you missed the reference to Lance and his obituary on Steve Jobs. Lance was writing as though they were long lost brothers re-united under the common good to find a cure. He used the word “friend” a lot. The forum posts of course were not to disrespect Steve Jobs but a swipe a Lance for cashing in on the public morning of Mr. Jobs.

Agree he has always used a Blackberry – his Twitter entries still state that they’re posted from a Blackberry but Armstrong in his obituary was eluding that he was using an iPhone. Shameless.

Yeah I did miss that. LA said he uses an iphone, that is very funny because as you note everyone who has ever watched any television coverage on LA will see he has a blackberry tied to his hands! Maybe that was why he could not stay on the rivets on his last TDF.

I did not know Steve and LA were “friends”, it appears that Steve’s family did not know about their deep rooted friendship either.

 

[Polish]

Some promising cancer research whose name is inspired by Lance.
New meaning for the "Lance Effect":

The "Lance Armstrong effect" could become a powerful new weapon to fight cancer cells that develop resistance to chemotherapy, radiation and other treatments, scientists say in a report...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/release...encedaily+(ScienceDaily:+Latest+Science+News)

Heck, maybe "SSDD" will inspire some new constipation remedies?

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Some promising cancer research whose name is inspired by Lance.
New meaning for the "Lance Effect":



http://www.sciencedaily.com/release...encedaily+(ScienceDaily:+Latest+Science+News)

Heck, maybe "SSDD" will inspire some new constipation remedies?

Post- indictment, look for them to rename the effect.

 

[issoisso]

Some promising cancer research whose name is inspired by Lance.
New meaning for the "Lance Effect":?

Jesus Christ you people will discuss anything as long as the word "Lance" is involved.

Coming up next: a discussion on whether or not Lance's TT improved because lopping off a testicle made him more aerodynamic

 

[MrMaillot]

Absolute balls.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Absolute balls.

shouldn't that be ball

 

[spetsa]

Jesus Christ you people will discuss anything as long as the word "Lance" is involved.

Coming up next: a discussion on whether or not Lance's TT improved because lopping off a testicle made him more aerodynamic

Great topic! I would think that based on the size of his remaining testicle, that he probably was able to produce more power on the side lacking any obstruction, thus giving him up to .16-.19% increase in efficiency.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Great topic! I would think that based on the size of his remaining testicle, that he probably was able to produce more power on the side lacking any obstruction, thus giving him up to .16-.19% increase in efficiency.

Yeah prob very easy for him to get forward on the seat without much discomfort.

That is most likely the reason for his crazy fast turnaround on the time trials. He changed his posture due to the ball.

 

[AngusW]

I have to agree with you on that. I checked out the slowtwitch forums and in my opinion they are a very delusional group. Some serious masters doing some serious amounts of PED's in the triathlon crowds ,,,in my opinion.

This may end up being LA's thing to do but based on his Marathon time previously posted he is going to suck a$$ at the ironman. BTW he should have to qualify the same as anyone else that goes to Kona.

I agree - particularly if he is racing in the pro section against athletes that have raced 2 or 3 Ironman or half Ironman events just to accumulate enough points to get one of the 50 available places.

WTC make their own rules, so they can invite anyone they want. Udo Bolts for example raced Kona without qualifying back in 2000, mainly because he was a friend of Lothar Leder. I think the sticking point for Armstrong will be the amount of appearance money they pay. I remember a Juan Pelota tweet earlier this year asking for a 5 million donation to his charity if he signed up for Kona. Of course, he may have just been taking the ****...

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Great topic! I would think that based on the size of his remaining testicle, that he probably was able to produce more power on the side lacking any obstruction, thus giving him up to .16-.19% increase in efficiency.

The weight reduction from losing one testicle gave him an 8% increase in climbing ability. There was probably also an increase in pedaling efficiency due to an eliminated chafing factor from not having both testicles.

 

[Velodude]

Great topic! I would think that based on the size of his remaining testicle, that he probably was able to produce more power on the side lacking any obstruction, thus giving him up to .16-.19% increase in efficiency.

Could be the explanation.

By 2003 there were so many self created myths about Armstrong's AWESOMENESS that some demonstrations of his vastly superior power and improved natural resilience over other mortals passed with comment but without query.

In the 2003 TdF Stage 12 TT he was beaten by Jan Ullrich by 1.36. His excuse. He was severely dehydrated and lost 5 kilograms (= 5 litres of fluids) of weight.

By calculation to LA's competition weight and adjustment for water content that was about an 11% loss of fluids.

According to Wikipedia on Dehydration:

Dehydration symptoms generally become noticeable after 2% of one's normal water volume has been lost. Initially, one experiences thirst and discomfort, possibly along with loss of appetite and dry skin. This can be followed by constipation. Athletes may suffer a loss of performance of up to 30% and experience flushing, low endurance, rapid heart rates, elevated body temperatures, and rapid onset of fatigue...

At around 5% to 6% water loss, one may become groggy or sleepy, experience headaches or nausea, and may feel tingling in one's limbs (paresthesia). With 10% to 15% fluid loss, muscles may become spastic, skin may shrivel and wrinkle (decreased skin turgor), vision may dim, urination will be greatly reduced and may become painful, and delirium may begin. Losses greater than 15% are usually fatal.

In the 219 km Stage 8 (L'Alpe d'Huez, July 13) Armstrong rode 200 kms (according to teammate Landis' CN blog) with a rubbing back brake to only record a less than stellar third place.

Having a brake rub is like throwing out an anchor and is obvious to even a lowly club rider.

Summary from Sports Illustrated

Armstrong's problems were cumulative and almost overwhelmed him. He had stomach flu so badly before the Tour he nearly didn't make the flight to France. He was bruised in a crash in the second day. He lost 5 kilograms (11 pounds) through dehydration riding a time trial in a heat wave and struggled up the Tour's most daunting climb, the 2,645-meter (8,675-feet) Col du Galibier, with a faulty back brake rubbing against the wheel.

"It takes a little bit out of you with the brake on," Armstrong noted sarcastically. "Those sort of problems just kept happening."