buckle said:US Men's 4x 400 looked normal. What's happened to Amercian 1/4 milers - have they all got religion?
At least 3 of their athletes are injured.
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buckle said:US Men's 4x 400 looked normal. What's happened to Amercian 1/4 milers - have they all got religion?
kielbasa said:The Spanish kayakers were as impressive today as Chinese swimmers and British cyclists.
terribleone said:Michael Johnson was equally damning on the Turkish 1500m runner, having already been suspended etc. He was on BBC and said that, "she served her suspension and will get tested tonight. No news is good news." although given what Pound and Conte are saying above it seems like there is some new methods that are difficult to trace...
I'm wondering if the Algerian that won the 1500m will face the same tests and if frozen samples are being retained? Obviously coaches and national teams are onto new method and the questionnaire where over 50% of athletes would dope to win gold, even if they were going to die within 4 years. Given that the peloton have been trying fairly randomly, new pills and potions without a second thought for the future. Maybe we'll just see more athletes dying off sooner.
Libertine Seguros said:The last remaining DDR World Record in athletics has just fallen.
More Strides than Rides said:Just to clarify, the study was about a winning a gold medal if they would die in 5 years, not doping. The implication of the results obviously suggest that most athletes are willing to dope to win.
“Will you use performance-enhancing drug, even if you will die in 5 years but you can win gold medal for sure”,
52% athletes ansewered “Yes”
A survey was once done on Olympic athletes that said, “If you could take a pill to guarantee you would get a gold medal, but it also guaranteed that you would die a year later, would you do it?”
80% of them said yes. I said no when someone asked me the question. She said, “Well, you don’t want it bad enough then. You won’t win a gold medal.” Maybe she was right.
The Hitch said:Is it this ?
http://www.gifu-pref.com/eagerbeavers/2012/Olympics_games.pdf
Because here the question apparently was about doping.
Actually judging by the false use of the singular, that may be lost in translation. THough i also found this on a blog, which again is susceptible to a mistake.
I could swear i also remember a different one from some years back where the question was would you take a gold if it meant you cut 3 or 4 years of your life or some such, and 90% answered yes.
hrotha said:When Operación Galgo popped up I was surprised to read many Spanish athletes talking openly about how it was about time those obvious cheats were busted. I wouldn't rule out athletics not having such a deeply ingrained doping culture as cycling.
More Strides than Rides said:Ahh, I was wrong. I checked the first google result for some of the key words. It was a journalist's summary, which could have been lost in translation. Thanks
Lisa Dobriskey appears to have accused the women who beat her in the 1500 metres at the Olympic Games of cheating.
‘I’ll probably get into trouble for saying this but I don’t believe I’m competing on a level playing field,’ said Dobriskey, the 2009 world silver medallist, on Radio 5 Live.
terribleone said:Michael Johnson was equally damning on the Turkish 1500m runner, having already been suspended etc. He was on BBC and said that, "she served her suspension and will get tested tonight. No news is good news." although given what Pound and Conte are saying above it seems like there is some new methods that are difficult to trace...
I'm wondering if the Algerian that won the 1500m will face the same tests and if frozen samples are being retained? Obviously coaches and national teams are onto new method and the questionnaire where over 50% of athletes would dope to win gold, even if they were going to die within 4 years. Given that the peloton have been trying fairly randomly, new pills and potions without a second thought for the future. Maybe we'll just see more athletes dying off sooner.
Dalakhani said:Oh, the irony...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2186859/London-2012-Olympics-Lisa-Dobriskey-accuses-1500m-rivals-cheating.html
I wonder what Dobriskey thinks about the people who are competing against Team GB's track cycling squad - that has broken world record after world record in these games?
Are they competing on a level playing field?
Or are these the sorts of questions you only ask about foreigners?
Really? The irony?Dalakhani said:Oh, the irony...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2186859/London-2012-Olympics-Lisa-Dobriskey-accuses-1500m-rivals-cheating.html
I wonder what Dobriskey thinks about the people who are competing against Team GB's track cycling squad - that has broken world record after world record in these games?
Are they competing on a level playing field?
Or are these the sorts of questions you only ask about foreigners?
Agreed on the athlete. The irony is in the media reporting.hotrats said:Really? The irony?
I can totally understand asking questions of British Cycling/Sky and being suspicious but to then turn this onto an athlete from another sport who has no connection to cycling who is upset at the fact her event was won by a known and guilty doper... from a country where it appears that you can source EPO over the counter with no prescription... isn't athletes speaking up about doping what the clinic wants?
Dalakhani said:Oh, the irony...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2186859/London-2012-Olympics-Lisa-Dobriskey-accuses-1500m-rivals-cheating.html
I wonder what Dobriskey thinks about the people who are competing against Team GB's track cycling squad - that has broken world record after world record in these games?
Are they competing on a level playing field?
Or are these the sorts of questions you only ask about foreigners?
hotrats said:Dobriskey has form on speaking out about level playing fields. Can we not give her some credit?
hotrats said:Really? The irony?
isn't athletes speaking up about doping what the clinic wants?
Dalakhani said:Yes, the irony. The irony of it being a member of the GB team that's talking about how they can't win because of opponents who seem to be able to put in "surprising" performances when it comes time for the Olympics.
Sure... when they're speaking out about doping... rather than someone who is myopic and only speaks out against foreigners giving suspicious performances.
Still shocked by Newsnight news that Team GB male rowers, even ones that didn't get to Olympics - got BMWs. Women didn't. Even with 3 golds.
the big ring said:Ouch
Still shocked by Newsnight news that Team GB male rowers, even ones that didn't get to Olympics - got BMWs. Women didn't. Even with 3 golds.
https://twitter.com/BBCStephanie/status/234225149887520768
Dalakhani said:Yes, the irony. The irony of it being a member of the GB team that's talking about how they can't win because of opponents who seem to be able to put in "surprising" performances when it comes time for the Olympics.