Paris-Nice Stage 5:Saint-Symphorien-sur-Coise Vernoux-en-Vivarais: 193 km

[Ney the Viking]

http://www.letour.fr/2011/PNC/LIVE/us/500/classement/index.html and the CG got updated.

So who wants to takes guesses at the end podium tomorrow? I guess everyone slightly sane has Martin on top?

 

[Tuarts]

1 KLÖDEN Andréas TEAM RADIOSHACK
2 SANCHEZ Samuel EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 00' 00"
3 CARRARA Matteo VACANSOLEIL-DCM + 00' 00"
4 MARTIN Tony HTC - HIGHROAD + 00' 00"
5 TAARAMAE Rein COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE + 00' 00"
6 KISERLOVSKI Robert PRO TEAM ASTANA + 00' 00"
7 BRAJKOVIC Janez TEAM RADIOSHACK + 00' 00"
8 TONDO Xavier MOVISTAR TEAM + 00' 00"
9 SANCHEZ Luis-Leon RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 00' 18"
10 ROLLAND Pierre TEAM EUROPCAR + 00' 19"
11 SORENSEN Chris SAXO BANK SUNGARD + 00' 19"
12 HESJEDAL Ryder TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO + 00' 19"
13 MONFORT Maxime TEAM LEOPARD-TREK + 00' 19"
14 WIGGINS Bradley SKY PROCYCLING + 00' 19"
15 VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO + 00' 19"
16 SCHLECK Frank TEAM LEOPARD-TREK + 00' 19"
17 SPILAK Simon LAMPRE - ISD + 00' 19"
18 ROGERS Michael SKY PROCYCLING + 00' 19"
19 LEIPHEIMER Levi TEAM RADIOSHACK + 00' 19"
20 PARDILLA Sergio MOVISTAR TEAM + 00' 19"
21 KREUZIGER Roman PRO TEAM ASTANA + 00' 19"
22 PERAUD Jean-Christophe AG2R LA MONDIALE + 00' 19"
23 MOLLEMA Bauke RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 00' 19"
24 CHAVANEL Sylvain QUICK STEP CYCLING TEAM + 01' 34"
25 PORTE Richie SAXO BANK SUNGARD + 01' 36"
26 VAN GARDEREN Tejay HTC - HIGHROAD + 01' 36"
27 URAN Rigoberto SKY PROCYCLING + 01' 36"
28 LE MEVEL Christophe TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO + 01' 51"
29 LAGUTIN Sergey VACANSOLEIL-DCM + 01' 51"
30 GERDEMANN Linus TEAM LEOPARD-TREK + 01' 56"
31 GARATE Juan Manuel RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 01' 56"
32 DE MAAR Marc QUICK STEP CYCLING TEAM + 01' 56"
33 PASAMONTES Luis MOVISTAR TEAM + 01' 56"
34 ULISSI Diego LAMPRE - ISD + 01' 56"
35 FEDRIGO Pierrick FDJ + 01' 56"
36 SIVTSOV Kanstantsin HTC - HIGHROAD + 01' 56"
37 VOECKLER Thomas TEAM EUROPCAR + 01' 56"
38 KADRI Blel AG2R LA MONDIALE + 02' 51"
39 ROCHE Nicolas AG2R LA MONDIALE + 02' 51"
40 CASAR Sandy FDJ + 02' 51"
41 ROJAS Jose Joaquin MOVISTAR TEAM + 02' 51"
42 GUSEV Vladimir KATUSHA TEAM + 02' 51"
43 MOINARD Amaël BMC RACING TEAM + 02' 51"
44 MORABITO Steve BMC RACING TEAM + 02' 51"
45 VORGANOV Eduard KATUSHA TEAM + 03' 21"
46 FINETTO Mauro LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE + 03' 37"
47 RUIJGH Rob VACANSOLEIL-DCM + 03' 37"
48 BOOKWALTER Brent BMC RACING TEAM + 03' 37"
49 GAUTIER Cyril TEAM EUROPCAR + 03' 37"
50 TROFIMOV Yury KATUSHA TEAM + 03' 37"
51 DI GREGORIO Rémy PRO TEAM ASTANA + 03' 37"
52 DEVOLDER Stijn VACANSOLEIL-DCM + 03' 37"
53 BERTHOU Eric BRETAGNE - SCHULLER + 05' 12"
54 VINOKOUROV Alexandre PRO TEAM ASTANA + 05' 12"
55 PINEAU Jérôme QUICK STEP CYCLING TEAM + 05' 12"
56 VERDUGO Gorka EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 05' 12"
57 EL FARES Julien COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE + 05' 12"
58 VAN SUMMEREN Johan TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO + 08' 13"
59 PAURIOL Rémi FDJ + 08' 13"
60 GALLOPIN Tony COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE + 08' 13"
61 GAVAZZI Francesco LAMPRE - ISD + 08' 13"

 

[ansimi]

Fun stage It will be interesting to see the full results and see where people are at in their fitness. It seemed like there were quite a few riders struggling more than they should have been.

Brajkovic cheering behind Kloden was my favourite part.

Martin should be able to take the overall but there are several top TTers competing for the podium.

 

[Tuarts]

Moinard and Morabito tearing up those mountains in 43rd & 44th. Such pantheons of the PT.

 

[kurtinsc]

TT will decide it.

That 29 second group has some guys who are pretty solid against the clock. Wiggins. Leipheimer. Rogers. Kreuziger. LuLu. Monfort and Van den broeck aren't horrible either.

Still wish Van Garderen had been able to hold on to the second group.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

LuLu fails like I predicted
So...does El Pistolero still think he is a mountain goat?

Still think Mollema would have been the better bet

 

[thirteen]

http://www.letour.fr/2011/PNC/LIVE/us/500/classement/index.html and the CG got updated.

So who wants to takes guesses at the end podium tomorrow? I guess everyone slightly sane has Martin on top?

i'm not even slightly sane... i say Vino

 

[Tuarts]

OVERALL:

1 KLÖDEN Andréas TEAM RADIOSHACK 24h 26' 13"
2 SANCHEZ Samuel EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI 24h 26' 17" + 00' 04"
3 CARRARA Matteo VACANSOLEIL-DCM 24h 26' 19" + 00' 06"
4 MARTIN Tony HTC - HIGHROAD 24h 26' 23" + 00' 10"
5 KISERLOVSKI Robert PRO TEAM ASTANA 24h 26' 23" + 00' 10"
6 BRAJKOVIC Janez TEAM RADIOSHACK 24h 26' 23" + 00' 10"
7 TONDO Xavier MOVISTAR TEAM 24h 26' 23" + 00' 10"
8 TAARAMAE Rein COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE 24h 26' 23" + 00' 10"
9 SANCHEZ Luis-Leon RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM 24h 26' 41" + 00' 28"
10 KREUZIGER Roman PRO TEAM ASTANA 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
11 MONFORT Maxime TEAM LEOPARD-TREK 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
12 VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
13 MOLLEMA Bauke RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
14 SPILAK Simon LAMPRE - ISD 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
15 PERAUD Jean-Christophe AG2R LA MONDIALE 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
16 ROGERS Michael SKY PROCYCLING 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
17 WIGGINS Bradley SKY PROCYCLING 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
18 HESJEDAL Ryder TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
19 ROLLAND Pierre TEAM EUROPCAR 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
20 PARDILLA Sergio MOVISTAR TEAM 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
21 LEIPHEIMER Levi TEAM RADIOSHACK 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
22 SCHLECK Frank TEAM LEOPARD-TREK 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"
23 SORENSEN Chris SAXO BANK SUNGARD 24h 26' 42" + 00' 29"

Some decent TT'ers in there that aren't too far off the standings

 

[ttrider]

Theres an awful lot of tt specialists in the top 23, thats everone still in contention
you ve got
Kloeden, Martin, Brajkovic, lls, Monfort, Rogers, Wiggins and Liepheimer
I rekkon Martin will dominate it though in 2/3 of the distance 2 weeks ago in the algarve he took 30 seconds out of LLS and Kloeden, expect 40 ish tomorrow

 

[kurtinsc]

Moinard and Morabito tearing up those mountains in 43rd & 44th. Such pantheons of the PT.

Bret Bookwalter finished 1:45 ahead of Vino.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

VOECKLER Thomas TEAM EUROPCAR + 01' 56"

boo hoo!

 

[Rocksteady]

Glad to see Ryder still in the 19" group, his TT isn't super but he won't lose too much there.

@Kurt: TJVG will have his day. Great work by him today, shame there are no points for good teammates.

 

[Tuarts]

i'm not even slightly sane... i say Vino

Vino finished over 5 minutes down.

 

[Squire]

Why is everyone forgetting Brajkovic as a TTer? Sanchez mk1 and mk2 aren't bad either. Anyway, I doubt anyone can beat Martin now.

 

[thirteen]

Vino finished over 5 minutes down.

i'm talking about the TT podium.

super hero though he is, he couldn't make up that time.

 

[Jamsque]

Martin is definitely the overwhelming favourite, and Klodi is more than capable of holding on for 2nd. I'd love to see Wiggo tear it up and manage 3rd overall but there are too many good TT riders ahead of him.

 

[Sasquatch]

You would think the top 5 GC standings tomorrow will read:

1. Tony Martin
2. Janez Brajkovic
3. Roman Kreuziger
4. Jean Christophe-Peraud
5. Wiggins, Rogers, Kloden, Leipheimer.

Yes, Krueziger will make up time on Kloden and finish ahead of Sanchez x 2.
Peraud should finish ahead of Wiggins, Rogers and Leipheimer. Perhaps Kloden? Not sure.

But the top 3 should be the top 3 above IMO.

Taaramae hopefully won't be too far behind and make up time and win on the weekend

 

[kurtinsc]

Glad to see Ryder still in the 19" group, his TT isn't super but he won't lose too much there.

@Kurt: TJVG will have his day. Great work by him today, shame there are no points for good teammates.

I know he was a worker today... but if he had managed to hold on to the second group, he'd have a real good shot at a top 10 overall finish even while working in support of Martin.

I have to say, I've been hearing a lot about Martin climbing enough to compete in more mountainous races and I've had trouble buying it. But he was able to hang on today on a climb that gapped riders who I considered superior climbers. So I am very impressed.

 

[theyoungest]

And how did the guy who will be a better rider than Evans ever was do?

 

[Sasquatch]

And how did the guy who will be a better rider than Evans ever was do?

It's his second year and he's still mid 20's. Still plenty of time to develop and prove me right yet. Come back to that question in 10 years time.

 

[Ney the Viking]

And how did the guy who will be a better rider than Evans ever was do?

I think he did exactly like he himself thought he would, maybe slightly worse. I personally had hoped for more, but he did say in an interview that he didn't see himself as a GC contender, but wanted to do good nonetheless.

 

[kurtinsc]

You would think the top 5 GC standings tomorrow will read:

1. Tony Martin
2. Janez Brajkovic
3. Roman Kreuziger
4. Jean Christophe-Peraud
5. Wiggins, Rogers, Kloden, Leipheimer.

Yes, Krueziger will make up time on Kloden and finish ahead of Sanchez x 2.
Peraud should finish ahead of Wiggins, Rogers and Leipheimer. Perhaps Kloden? Not sure.

But the top 3 should be the top 3 above IMO.

Taaramae hopefully won't be too far behind and make up time and win on the weekend

Is Peraud that good a TT?

I know he was French champ a couple years back, but I don't remember too much in the way of ITT results for him last year. He was good at the Pais Vasco ITT last year... but that was a climbing route. In the Vuelta he was 92nd in the ITT. 4:30 behind a guy like Tondo.

 

[theyoungest]

Is Peraud that good a TT?

I know he was French champ a couple years back, but I don't remember too much in the way of ITT results for him last year. He was good at the Pais Vasco ITT last year... but that was a climbing route. In the Vuelta he was 92nd in the ITT. 4:30 behind a guy like Tondo.

Peraud didn't have great form in the Vuelta. He was top-10 in the Worlds TT 2009, I believe.

It's his second year and he's still mid 20's. Still plenty of time to develop and prove me right yet. Come back to that question in 10 years time.

This result doesn't show much in the way of improvement as a climber since last year. I mean, it's okay, but it's not better than anything he's shown at the Giro.

 

[Ryaguas]

Was a fun stage until Kloden got the win... FACK... FACK... FACK
3/4 of that win belongs to Jani... that was a really good lead-out...
When I saw Samu in Kloden's wheel I said "hahahaha pwned! Samu will take this win so easy"... damn it... stupid old fart had to win today =/

What a ride from Das Panzerwagen! tomorrow He will win so easy that ITT, His form is excellent! holding up in the mountains and even attacking! TJVG what a work! really good from him, also Rigo! hammering the gap for Rogers and Wiggo... Too bad for Porte =/ He couldnt make the selection =/

Hey what about Carrara! huh??? He was really great today! Vacansoleil sending a pretty clear message to McQuack and the UCI...

Tomorrow:
Martin
Porte
Wiggo
Rogers
Bottle
TJVG
Kreuziger
Lulu
Gusev

Will be a nice battle for the TT!

 

[Frosty]

I know he was a worker today... but if he had managed to hold on to the second group, he'd have a real good shot at a top 10 overall finish even while working in support of Martin.

I have to say, I've been hearing a lot about Martin climbing enough to compete in more mountainous races and I've had trouble buying it. But he was able to hang on today on a climb that gapped riders who I considered superior climbers. So I am very impressed.

Yeah, didnt do that well in the tour de suisse last year, lost several minutes on the climb where Gesink won. Thought this climb would be a bit too tough for him, was wrong.