Paul Seixas

[Ilmaestro99]

Does anyone want to teach me some stuff about gene doping. Even with a top programme I don't understand how a 19yo does this?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I was right a few days back: new mutant on the block!
The kid is an absolute monster, by far the best U20 I've seen.
One year after being a promising junior, the guy is going toe to toe with the best rider since Merckx (whose clinical reputation is legendary!).

 

[Shakes]

Last year Widar was competition for him. Now it's a different level.

Admittedly, I'm just mostly happy I don't need to look at Pogacar riding away the last 40kms by himself. Two mutants is better than one. (None would be ideal). So pragmatism makes me happy he is here.

 

[peterfin]

13 seconds faster on the redoute for both of the aliens today. Seems legit

In the fastest edition ever (almost 10% faster than the 2nd fastest edition). So it is not that they could relax until blasting the climbs. The others look like amateurs in comparison.

 

[Netserk]

Last year Widar was competition for him. Now it's a different level.

Admittedly, I'm just mostly happy I don't need to look at Pogacar riding away the last 40kms by himself. Two mutants is better than one. (None would be ideal). So pragmatism makes me happy he is here.

he had a bad preparation for avenir last year , and steadily improved throughout the season

but he does indeed improve at a massive pace , catching up quickly to the state of the art

 

[meat puppet]

Does anyone want to teach me some stuff about gene doping. Even with a top programme I don't understand how a 19yo does this?

Rumour has it that he did two things. First, he secretly slipped a couple thousand euros to the mythical Sola and finally got training right. (The prescription was long intervals that everyone from lowly amateurs up does anyway). Second, he started to mainline porridge. And presto, here we are.

 

[Notarobot]

CRISPR. Told you years ago. Its no science fiction, it's being used.

 

[pelotonIQ]

CRISPR. Told you years ago. Its no science fiction, it's being used.

It doesn't look good when you say it's CRISPR without any further explanation or theory to why or how that might be.

 

[Gratemans]

It doesn't look good when you say it's CRISPR without any further explanation or theory to why or how that might be.

Why? He just wants to let us know he thinks it's gene doping.

 

[YellowSocks]

Breschel after talking with Baudin (good friend of Seixas) said Seixas was improving 20 watts each month during winter.

Don't mind me, I'm just tidying up the forum.

 

[Tim Cahill]

He was a rider on the level of Scaroni or Jay Vine in October. He was expected to improve a lot absolutely, the next Tour winner in a few years time perhaps. As we said at the time he had been doing everything correctly and diligently for years. A few months later he is churning out some of the best climbing performances of all time.

As always, with now and with 2024, you look at the rate of change, it is a total fantasy for the body to make such training adaptations naturally in such a short period of time for an already supreme athlete. I'm extremely curious as to the method, it's not like they can just mainline EPO like they did in the mid 90s, not with the restrictions in place.

 

[canina82]

He was a rider on the level of Scaroni or Jay Vine in October. He was expected to improve a lot absolutely, the next Tour winner in a few years time perhaps. As we said at the time he had been doing everything correctly and diligently for years. A few months later he is churning out some of the best climbing performances of all time.

As always, with now and with 2024, you look at the rate of change, it is a total fantasy for the body to make such training adaptations naturally in such a short period of time for an already supreme athlete. I'm extremely curious as to the method, it's not like they can just mainline EPO like they did in the mid 90s, not with the restrictions in place.

Pogacar was the best rider in the world before 2024. He was very dominant until his crash in LBL.
Seixas finished 9' behind Pogacar in Rwanda, was beaten by Widar in mountain stages and was fighting with Scaronni in GdL. The leap Seixas took was way bigger than any jump in performance Pogacar made in his career.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Someone finally makes a considered and articulate post in the clinic and within 5 minutes the discussion gets reduced to 'by contrast my favourite rider is totally cleanz'

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Someone finally makes a considered and articulate post in the clinic and within 5 minutes the discussion gets reduced to 'by contrast my favourite rider is totally cleanz'

I thought about it for a moment, and going from Seixas level at the end of last year to nearly Pogacar level might actually be a bigger jump than the one Pogi made in 2024. Not withstanding that "but rider x is more cleanz" is usually annoying.

 

[YellowSocks]

Pogacar was the best rider in the world before 2024. He was very dominant until his crash in LBL.
Seixas finished 9' behind Pogacar in Rwanda, was beaten by Widar in mountain stages and was fighting with Scaronni in GdL. The leap Seixas took was way bigger than any jump in performance Pogacar made in his career.

Is this really the new debate: is Seixas more doped than Pogacar?

Anyway, Pogacar has opened a big door for other riders. If they don’t catch them, they won’t catch us either, so let's go.

I still wonder why they go so far, why they don't care for a second about credibility*. Seixas is very young, they had plenty of time. They could have chosen a measured path, developing a credible career. Initially, Decath’s plan was called 'Tour de France 2030'. And then suddenly, only a few months after they announced the plan, there is a wild UFO flying through my living room. Sigh...

* On second thought, reading some comments on this forum, I do understand. A majority of cycling fans are their best advocates and just want fireworks.