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[ultimobici]

He he he [laziali enters from side of stage. He weighs up the pros and cons of going another round with JMBeaushrimp on the relative merits of Steve Bauer. Decides discretion is the better part of valour. Takes hat off to Mr Bauer on this occasion. End scene.]

Nice one Laz!

 

[Matthijs]

what do you mean?? traksel won kbk because everyone quit that race due to cold, rest of the year traksel sucked incredibly. this guy doesn't deserve to be a pro anymore. used to be a huge talent though, just the wrong head.

why do you think he didn't quit? Thor Hushovd put his bike aside in the final km. Not to spare himself for MSR or something, those last k's do not mather. A guy who comes 2nd at PR, the hell of the north and becomes WC, a Norwegian guy who can handle a bit of cold, completely cracks
Traksel is a legend in the cycling scene. Normally this braek wasn't the right one, but the chasers simply hadn't the power of Traksel, Flens and Stannard. And allthough Traksel is not the slowest, if you watch the final k he is definately the strongest that day.
Ok, the rest of his season sucked hard if you compare. Maybe he shouldn't earn that much more. Especially since the rumours he survived those extremes so good because of his extra body mass. Extra body mass = no reason for extra pay but still one of the better victories for Vacansoleil (in the most important region for this team)
So no pro? He still won one of the hardest and craziest races of 2010!

 

[ultimobici]

what do you mean?? traksel won kbk because everyone quit that race due to cold, rest of the year traksel sucked incredibly. this guy doesn't deserve to be a pro anymore. used to be a huge talent though, just the wrong head.

So by that measure Mark Madiot's 85 Roubaix win was a fluke, as was Vanderaerden's Ronde the same year? Less than 30 riders finished both races. Come to think of it, Hinault's LBL in 1980 must have been a fluke too!

Racing isn't just about speed in a sprint, it's about capacity for suffering.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Huge talent but just had the wrong head? Sounds a lot like José Rujano. We're back for another spin on the Rujano roulette wheel this season, there'll always be a place for riders with that talent level (not that I'm implying Traksel's as talented as Rujano), but maybe not at the level they deserve.

 

[sylvan]

Svein Tuft Interview after signing with Spidertech

[Spidertech] is an understated team that'll be exciting to watch.

Full interview: http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews.php?id=20626

CC: When did you first start to find out that there might be problems at Pegasus?

ST: After our first camp [in Australia, mid-November] we started to hear rumours...

CC: When did you begin talking with SpiderTech?

ST: It was actually during the summer, Steve and I sat down at Road Nationals...

 

[LastRide]

Just goes to show you. Knowing and the right people and smoking the right poles is going to get you somewhere.

Before everyone starts making big comments about Chris White they should start to understand the scene behind the scene.

http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/2010/12/foal-play-down-under.html

 

[auscyclefan94]

Just goes to show you. Knowing and the right people and smoking the right poles is going to get you somewhere.

Before everyone starts making big comments about Chris White they should start to understand the scene behind the scene.

http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/2010/12/foal-play-down-under.html

I think it is a bit farfetched that Cycling Australia would "buy" mcquaid off. Doesn't change my opinion of White but I can be quite harsh on people.

 

[Anonymous]

I think it is a bit farfetched that Cycling Australia would "buy" mcquaid off. Doesn't change my opinion of White but I can be quite harsh on people.

I agree, conspiracy theories amass Maybe cycling australia had the same doubts as we all had about chris white. Maybe they feared if as expected it went tits up it would tarnish the reputation of australian cycling. Maybe they didnt want to put their name to such an ill conceived hyped up catastrophy. Its very likely that Cycling Australia did not like his plans, his way of doing things, and didnt want to be associated with it full stop.

Is that a lack of support, or just distancing yourself. I think the latter.

 

[cobblehead]

Cornu also leaving the sinking (or sunk) ship

 

[Bromers]

Yeah nice to see Cornu getting a contract for 2011 hope he does well at Topsport

 

[Spare Tyre]

Just goes to show you. Knowing and the right people and smoking the right poles is going to get you somewhere.

Before everyone starts making big comments about Chris White they should start to understand the scene behind the scene.

http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/2010/12/foal-play-down-under.html

Sounds like the blogger actually agrees with Dim (TeamSkyFans).

 

[Anonymous]

UCI REASON FOR DECISION

based on a financial aspect, given the serious shortcomings the formation had presented.

Pegasus Sports did not provide either a bank guarantee or sufficient financial guarantees for 2011.

despite the public announcements, the management of the Pegasus Sports project proved to be rather unprofessional from the start.

given the shortcomings on the financial side, which could not guarantee that the team would survive the whole 2011 season, this option also had to be rejected

However, the team still did not change its attitude: it did not undertake the necessary steps to rectify the shortcomings regarding the UCI regulation, that were however indicated several times in the different reports established by the UCI’s auditors.

Even so, the Licence Commission granted an extended deadline (10th December) to Pegasus Sports so it could sort out its problems. Exceptionally, this deadline was even extended a further five days (15th December).

Yet, at the end of this ultimate chance, fundamental documents such as the bank guarantee and sufficient financial guarantees for 2011 are still missing from the Pegasus Sports file.

Pretty damning.

Looking at the uci report, seems that not only was CW bull****ting riders, sponsors and press, but even thought he could Bull**** the UCI

 

[bobbins]

Pot in slagging match with kettle shocker!

Whilst I have no doubt that Whites proposal was lacking in certain areas such as having a sponsor, I also have no doubt that the UCI is un-professional and not fit to govern.

There wil be some truth somewhere but it will be between the BS that both White and the UCI are coming out with.

 

[hrotha]

UCI REASON FOR DECISION











Pretty damning.

Looking at the uci report, seems that not only was CW bull****ting riders, sponsors and press, but even thought he could Bull**** the UCI

Booooh evil evil evil UCI!!!!

 

[bobbins]

TO quote the UCI "the UCI can however presume that the refusal to register Pegasus Sports is based on a financial aspect, given the serious shortcomings the formation had presented. "

The UCI can presume hey, surely they know without a doubt why the registration was refused?

 

[Anonymous]

TO quote the UCI "the UCI can however presume that the refusal to register Pegasus Sports is based on a financial aspect, given the serious shortcomings the formation had presented. "

The UCI can presume hey, surely they know without a doubt why the registration was refused?

They didnt make the final decision the licence commision do. So they presume.

 

[bobbins]

Fair enough. Still, why put out a press release without the facts in. White could put one out with any old nonsense in it based on presumptions.....

 

[hrotha]

Fair enough. Still, why put out a press release without the facts in. White could put one out with any old nonsense in it based on presumptions.....

That's largely what he's been doing, it would seem.

 

[Anonymous]

that's largely what he's been doing, it would seem.

...............

 

[bobbins]

That's largely what he's been doing, it would seem.

I'll line em up, you can knock em down

 

[trudat]

Finally the chickens are coming home to roost in Whites stable. He has a history of using people and then throwing them under the bus when he no longer has further use for them. Karma is a *****....

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

lol. they thought they cvould get a pct license without a bankguarantee

 

[shouldawouldacoulda]

lol. they thought they cvould get a pct license without a bankguarantee

Exactly. So now the truth about Pegasus comes out. This is probably the single most important part of the registration dossier. The fact Pegasus didn't provide one is pretty damaging to White's credibility.

This is not a particularly difficult thing to get in place. The UCI is (believe it or not) very helpful in assisting teams to get this in place to their (the UCI's) satisfaction. If anything is tricky about it... it is the fact you actually have to have MONEY to get one.

White ran the FlyV team for what - 5 yrs? as a Continental outfit. He knew exactly what was involved with preparing and submitting this financial guarantee.

I no longer trust a word that comes from Chris White's mouth. Pegasus had no money from the outset. White lied to everyone - riders, fans and his staff.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Exactly. So now the truth about Pegasus comes out. This is probably the single most important part of the registration dossier. The fact Pegasus didn't provide one is pretty damaging to White's credibility.

This is not a particularly difficult thing to get in place. The UCI is (believe it or not) very helpful in assisting teams to get this in place to their (the UCI's) satisfaction. If anything is tricky about it... it is the fact you actually have to have MONEY to get one.

White ran the FlyV team for what - 5 yrs? as a Continental outfit. He knew exactly what was involved with preparing and submitting this financial guarantee.

I no longer trust a word that comes from Chris White's mouth. Pegasus had no money from the outset. White lied to everyone - riders, fans and his staff.

exatcly. the hate against uci is complete nonsense. look at how far they went with cafe de colombia, by postponing dates for bankguarantee due to colombian law that prhibited sponsors to come in before start of a calendar year. cafe colombia got their pct license because they had a bankguarantee and weren't full of s*** like white

 

[Libertine Seguros]

exatcly. the hate against uci is complete nonsense. look at how far they went with cafe de colombia, by postponing dates for bankguarantee due to colombian law that prhibited sponsors to come in before start of a calendar year. cafe colombia got their pct license because they had a bankguarantee and weren't full of s*** like white

The PCT licences for Xacobeo and Acqua e Sapone last year came after the deadline cos of the same reason, and of course there was Astana and their licence; the UCI seemed pretty happy to let them sort it out. The UCI has given Pegasus a lot of rope, all Chris White wanted to do with that rope was make a clothes line and hang his riders and staff out to dry on it.