Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[SeriousSam]

Incredible. Contador exiting the Tour has proved to be a blessing disguise for Sagan and Tinkoff.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Incredible. Contador exiting the Tour has proved to be a blessing disguise for Sagan and Tinkoff.

It was a blessing for Sagan in the first place, but definitely a blessing in disguise for Tinkoff

 

[saganftw]

now its gonna be interesting to watch if tinkoff stays in cycling,i say if sagan doesnt have a signed contract elsewhere oleg will stay one more year

 

[PremierAndrew]

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now its gonna be interesting to watch if tinkoff stays in cycling,i say if sagan doesnt have a signed contract elsewhere oleg will stay one more year

If he does, I expect him to let Contador go and fully build Tinkoff around Sagan with some support for Majka

 

[SKSemtex]

I do not think Sagan would be very happy. His price after this tour is few milliona up from the one in contract with Tinkoff.

 

[SeriousSam]

Isn't he already the top earner in cycling at his Tinkoff wages? Unlikely any team would be willing to pay much more than that.

 

[PremierAndrew]

When he signed his contract, he was top earner, as a potential monument winner.

At this point, he's a proven monument winner, has a bigger fan base, and you're pretty much guaranteed results because it seems impossible for him to crash. So yes, his price is greater than it would have been when he signed his Tinkoff contract

 

[jmdirt]

WOOHOO PS!

 

[saganftw]

he has the leverage to negotiate much better contract and for a global brand like specialized whats a couple of milions more to offer to keep him?

they probably have much more stashed in off shore accounts anyway

 

[offtherecord]

He also comes with promising odds for a big win in the next of the "Home Alone" franchise installment. That must be worth something

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

must be one of the best world champions in years. Winning tour of flanders, 3 tour stages and so much more...

 

[sultanofhyd]

Don't be ridiculous. Contador and Sagan already have contracts with other teams for next year. It's too late for Tinkov to decide he wants to keep going.

 

[ILovecycling]

Just wow...

 

[El Pistolero]

Sagan's big paycheck will be his big weakness the coming years. He won't have a great team to support him and for those who say he doesn't need one... Don't kid yourself. We all saw what happened to Cancellara in 2011.

 

[saganftw]

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Sagan's big paycheck will be his big weakness the coming years. He won't have a great team to support him and for those who say he doesn't need one... Don't kid yourself. We all saw what happened to Cancellara in 2011.

i dont think the likes of Bodnar,Gatto and Tosatto (or his brother) cost that much

 

[El Pistolero]

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Sagan's big paycheck will be his big weakness the coming years. He won't have a great team to support him and for those who say he doesn't need one... Don't kid yourself. We all saw what happened to Cancellara in 2011.

i dont think the likes of Bodnar,Gatto and Tosatto (or his brother) cost that much

And how will those help him in the classics? Quickstep would be the best team for him, now that Kittel is sucking. But there's simply no way Lefevere will pay Sagan what he asks. It's a shame because I'd really like to see him at QS.

 

[saganftw]

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Sagan's big paycheck will be his big weakness the coming years. He won't have a great team to support him and for those who say he doesn't need one... Don't kid yourself. We all saw what happened to Cancellara in 2011.

i dont think the likes of Bodnar,Gatto and Tosatto (or his brother) cost that much

And how will those help him in the classics? Quickstep would be the best team for him, now that Kittel is sucking. But there's simply no way Lefevere will pay Sagan what he asks. It's a shame because I'd really like to see him at QS.

he won RvV without huge domestique work and if it wasnt for crash in front of him he would fight for win in PR...obviously a good domestique or two would ensure greater chance to win,but it certainly isnt a necesity

also i dont like this logic of a guy getting paid too much so the team cannot afford domestiques - if you are willing to dish out milions for Sagan you are probably rich enough to pay a luxury rider or a domestique as well,especially without salary cap

 

[SKSemtex]

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Sagan's big paycheck will be his big weakness the coming years. He won't have a great team to support him and for those who say he doesn't need one... Don't kid yourself. We all saw what happened to Cancellara in 2011.

i dont think the likes of Bodnar,Gatto and Tosatto (or his brother) cost that much

And how will those help him in the classics? Quickstep would be the best team for him, now that Kittel is sucking. But there's simply no way Lefevere will pay Sagan what he asks. It's a shame because I'd really like to see him at QS.

Beeing a cycling fan I want him in Etixx as well, but if beeing Sagan, his wife, his kid, his manager I would take the big check. Probably as the most of us here in this forum.

 

[portugal11]

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Sagan's big paycheck will be his big weakness the coming years. He won't have a great team to support him and for those who say he doesn't need one... Don't kid yourself. We all saw what happened to Cancellara in 2011.

i dont think the likes of Bodnar,Gatto and Tosatto (or his brother) cost that much

And how will those help him in the classics? Quickstep would be the best team for him, now that Kittel is sucking. But there's simply no way Lefevere will pay Sagan what he asks. It's a shame because I'd really like to see him at QS.

Beeing a cycling fan I want him in Etixx as well, but if beeing Sagan, his wife, his kid, his manager I would take the big check. Probably as the most of us here in this forum.

Why you want to see him in ettix? He would destroy everyone because he is the best and etixx is the best team in one day races.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Sagan's big paycheck will be his big weakness the coming years. He won't have a great team to support him and for those who say he doesn't need one... Don't kid yourself. We all saw what happened to Cancellara in 2011.

i dont think the likes of Bodnar,Gatto and Tosatto (or his brother) cost that much

And how will those help him in the classics? Quickstep would be the best team for him, now that Kittel is sucking. But there's simply no way Lefevere will pay Sagan what he asks. It's a shame because I'd really like to see him at QS.

Beeing a cycling fan I want him in Etixx as well, but if beeing Sagan, his wife, his kid, his manager I would take the big check. Probably as the most of us here in this forum.

Meh, what's the difference between 10 and 20 million? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have 10 million, but there surely comes a time when adding more zeroes doesn't really improve your life anyway.

He should accept a pay cut and get more support.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Sagan's big paycheck will be his big weakness the coming years. He won't have a great team to support him and for those who say he doesn't need one... Don't kid yourself. We all saw what happened to Cancellara in 2011.

i dont think the likes of Bodnar,Gatto and Tosatto (or his brother) cost that much

And how will those help him in the classics? Quickstep would be the best team for him, now that Kittel is sucking. But there's simply no way Lefevere will pay Sagan what he asks. It's a shame because I'd really like to see him at QS.

Beeing a cycling fan I want him in Etixx as well, but if beeing Sagan, his wife, his kid, his manager I would take the big check. Probably as the most of us here in this forum.

wtf

He's being paid more than enough anywhere he goes. And once you're already earning millions, it's a no-brainer, I'd take better chances of winning with better domestiques over an *even bigger* paycheck

 

[carolina]

also: better team = better chance of winning races = more personal sponsor money

 

[johnymax]

I certainly don't want to see him in etixx. Best classics cyclist in best team = less fun for cycling fans. We need the poles apart.

 

[KGB]

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Sagan's big paycheck will be his big weakness the coming years. He won't have a great team to support him and for those who say he doesn't need one... Don't kid yourself. We all saw what happened to Cancellara in 2011.

i dont think the likes of Bodnar,Gatto and Tosatto (or his brother) cost that much

And how will those help him in the classics? Quickstep would be the best team for him, now that Kittel is sucking. But there's simply no way Lefevere will pay Sagan what he asks. It's a shame because I'd really like to see him at QS.

Beeing a cycling fan I want him in Etixx as well, but if beeing Sagan, his wife, his kid, his manager I would take the big check. Probably as the most of us here in this forum.

Meh, what's the difference between 10 and 20 million? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have 10 million, but there surely comes a time when adding more zeroes doesn't really improve your life anyway.

He should accept a pay cut and get more support.

He will when he could do what he does now.That time will come.First money and then if I will not be that good pay cut and better helpers.He actually needs for classic season only D.Oss.Rest of the team could be good/bad as his brother is(which mean very cheap).Shame they are not in the same team.

 

[Jancouver]

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Don't be ridiculous. Contador and Sagan already have contracts with other teams for next year. It's too late for Tinkov to decide he wants to keep going.

Sagan has a valid contract with Tinkov for next year so if Oleg wants to stay around he does not have to do anything and Sagan will be kept under the current contract.