Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

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mr. tibbs said:
Sagan: "You cannot plan that. It just happens. Crazy."

Contrast this with by-the-book Cav listlessly drifting along off the back.
Cav? By-the-book?

Guessing he should have changed his tyres with 50km to go because he should have been able to tell that he was going to have a puncture 35k later
 
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CheckMyPecs said:
What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?
That thread inevitably gets started for every great calssics/one-day puncheur. "Can _____ Win the Tour?"

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PremierAndrew said:
mr. tibbs said:
Sagan: "You cannot plan that. It just happens. Crazy."

Contrast this with by-the-book Cav listlessly drifting along off the back.
Cav? By-the-book?

Guessing he should have changed his tyres with 50km to go because he should have been able to tell that he was going to have a puncture 35k later
Let's not pretend the end result would have been anything else.
 

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Great victory by Peter Sagan! He really is a monster on a bike, how can anyone compete with this guy? He can hurt you in so many different ways.

Hat's of to Chris Froome for recognizing what was developing into the winning move, that awareness isn't taught or managed by the team.
 
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mr. tibbs said:
CheckMyPecs said:
What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?
That thread inevitably gets started for every great calssics/one-day puncheur. "Can _____ Win the Tour?"

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PremierAndrew said:
mr. tibbs said:
Sagan: "You cannot plan that. It just happens. Crazy."

Contrast this with by-the-book Cav listlessly drifting along off the back.
Cav? By-the-book?

Guessing he should have changed his tyres with 50km to go because he should have been able to tell that he was going to have a puncture 35k later
Let's not pretend the end result would have been anything else.
Point me to a race in the last 5 years where Cav has not been in the front echelon at any point in the race.
 
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BigMac said:
CheckMyPecs said:
What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :razz:
There'll come a day when winning his nth Tour stage or yet another green jersey just won't be enough anymore. What then?
 
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CheckMyPecs said:
BigMac said:
CheckMyPecs said:
What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :razz:
There'll come a day when winning the nth Tour stage or yet another green jersey just won't be enough anymore. True champions like Sagan need new challenges.
Ye, but there are still one-day races and Monuments to win. Aiming at GT GC means he'll never be able to win most of those. As it is, he's got a chance at all of them.
 
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trucido said:
CheckMyPecs said:
What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?
Finish 27th in the Tour.
If his focus had been on GC, he would probably finish in the top 20 right now, without any changes.
 
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BigMac said:
CheckMyPecs said:
BigMac said:
CheckMyPecs said:
What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :razz:
There'll come a day when winning the nth Tour stage or yet another green jersey just won't be enough anymore. True champions like Sagan need new challenges.
Ye, but there are still one-day races and Monuments to win. Aiming at GT GC means he'll never be able to win most of those. As it is, he's got a chance at all of them.
I think a Valverde approach could be useful: aim for two peaks, one in the spring season and another for the Tour.
 
What a ride today. I really like how he shows that a rider whose sprint just isn't good enough to win against riders like Cavendish or Kittel can still win a lot of stages. He was so unlucky in the last few years but since Gent-Wevelgem it seems like everything he tries works.

Does anyone know what his plans for the rest of the year are? I guess he will ride the WC RR, but before that? The Vuelta could be good for him since there probably won't be many sprinters and there are a few stages which would suit him very well.

Edit: I just noticed he could ride the Canadian classics followed by the Eneco tour. I think he could still win quite a lot in this season that way.
 
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CheckMyPecs said:
BigMac said:
CheckMyPecs said:
BigMac said:
CheckMyPecs said:
What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :razz:
There'll come a day when winning the nth Tour stage or yet another green jersey just won't be enough anymore. True champions like Sagan need new challenges.
Ye, but there are still one-day races and Monuments to win. Aiming at GT GC means he'll never be able to win most of those. As it is, he's got a chance at all of them.
I think a Valverde approach could be useful: aim for two peaks, one in the spring season and another for the Tour.
Valverde focuses on the hilly classics, like LBL. Sagan focuses on the cobbles.
 

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