Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[Pricey_sky]

Never been a massive Sagan fan due to some of his antics, but credit where's it due. The guy is some bike racer.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Such an entertaining rider when he has no need to be. Matthews, take note.

 

[Jancouver]

This guy is a living legend. Every time I think that we have seen it all, he will deliver again.

What a LEGEND!

 

[mr. tibbs]

Sagan: "You cannot plan that. It just happens. Crazy."

Contrast this with by-the-book Cav listlessly drifting along off the back.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

 

[BigMac]

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What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :razz:

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re:

Sagan: "You cannot plan that. It just happens. Crazy."

Contrast this with by-the-book Cav listlessly drifting along off the back.

Cav? By-the-book?

Guessing he should have changed his tyres with 50km to go because he should have been able to tell that he was going to have a puncture 35k later

 

[mr. tibbs]

Re:

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

That thread inevitably gets started for every great calssics/one-day puncheur. "Can _____ Win the Tour?"

EDIT:

Sagan: "You cannot plan that. It just happens. Crazy."

Contrast this with by-the-book Cav listlessly drifting along off the back.

Cav? By-the-book?

Guessing he should have changed his tyres with 50km to go because he should have been able to tell that he was going to have a puncture 35k later

Let's not pretend the end result would have been anything else.

 

[Red Rick]

Re:

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

Regret it years later

 

[trucido]

Re:

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

Finish 27th in the Tour.

 

[Irondan]

Great victory by Peter Sagan! He really is a monster on a bike, how can anyone compete with this guy? He can hurt you in so many different ways.

Hat's of to Chris Froome for recognizing what was developing into the winning move, that awareness isn't taught or managed by the team.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re: Re:

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

That thread inevitably gets started for every great calssics/one-day puncheur. "Can _____ Win the Tour?"

EDIT:

Sagan: "You cannot plan that. It just happens. Crazy."

Contrast this with by-the-book Cav listlessly drifting along off the back.

Cav? By-the-book?

Guessing he should have changed his tyres with 50km to go because he should have been able to tell that he was going to have a puncture 35k later

Let's not pretend the end result would have been anything else.

Point me to a race in the last 5 years where Cav has not been in the front echelon at any point in the race.

 

[King Boonen]

I'm becoming a fan of Sagan, he's living up to the promise he has shown and he seems to be learning that you need to be willing to lose if you want to win. The real racing (monuments) could be very interesting next year.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

One more stage and and Oleg stays in cycling?

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :razz:

There'll come a day when winning his nth Tour stage or yet another green jersey just won't be enough anymore. What then?

 

[BigMac]

Re: Re:

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :razz:

There'll come a day when winning the nth Tour stage or yet another green jersey just won't be enough anymore. True champions like Sagan need new challenges.

Ye, but there are still one-day races and Monuments to win. Aiming at GT GC means he'll never be able to win most of those. As it is, he's got a chance at all of them.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

Finish 27th in the Tour.

If his focus had been on GC, he would probably finish in the top 20 right now, without any changes.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :razz:

There'll come a day when winning the nth Tour stage or yet another green jersey just won't be enough anymore. True champions like Sagan need new challenges.

Ye, but there are still one-day races and Monuments to win. Aiming at GT GC means he'll never be able to win most of those. As it is, he's got a chance at all of them.

I think a Valverde approach could be useful: aim for two peaks, one in the spring season and another for the Tour.

 

[Billie]

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What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

He'd lose his muscular upper body

 

[Billie]

It's funny though all these posts about what if Classicsmen X would lose couple kilos to try an become GT contender.

In 09 it was about Cancellara
In 11 it was about Gilbert
Now about Sagan.

stop it please

 

[Gigs_98]

What a ride today. I really like how he shows that a rider whose sprint just isn't good enough to win against riders like Cavendish or Kittel can still win a lot of stages. He was so unlucky in the last few years but since Gent-Wevelgem it seems like everything he tries works.

Does anyone know what his plans for the rest of the year are? I guess he will ride the WC RR, but before that? The Vuelta could be good for him since there probably won't be many sprinters and there are a few stages which would suit him very well.

Edit: I just noticed he could ride the Canadian classics followed by the Eneco tour. I think he could still win quite a lot in this season that way.

 

[Irondan]

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One more stage and and Oleg stays in cycling?

Please no...

 

[RedheadDane]

Re: Re:

What could Peter do if he built his season around a GT, changed his training and went to altitude camps?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :razz:

There'll come a day when winning the nth Tour stage or yet another green jersey just won't be enough anymore. True champions like Sagan need new challenges.

Ye, but there are still one-day races and Monuments to win. Aiming at GT GC means he'll never be able to win most of those. As it is, he's got a chance at all of them.

I think a Valverde approach could be useful: aim for two peaks, one in the spring season and another for the Tour.

Valverde focuses on the hilly classics, like LBL. Sagan focuses on the cobbles.

 

[Red Rick]

And skip the Canadian races? I never even understood why he skipped them last year, because those races were the most similar to the WC, with so. many. small. hill.

 

[saganftw]

oh common,if track specialist turned mountain goat wiggins can win the tour,sagan could win it on unicycle while collecting every jersey and beating maertens record for stage wins in a GT